he lost his stripes ,that may the most brutal part after the feds toss u away like a used klenexPhilly d wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:04 pm"I think he is defintely ashamed of himself". that doesn't make sense. and anyways you have no idea. His agreement left his wife the house and a few million. She is still with him (by the way who brother went bad also). I dont think Massino gives a flying fuck. His other fat buddy ratted also.JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:51 amI would listen or watch massino on any type of platform. I think itd be excellent.SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:43 pm All these guys end up at the same place: I was more important than I really was.
Now Joseph Massino on the Gene and Alite shitshow....
Wish that fat ph.. would write a biography.
I wish I was on the forums during his trial period. Was anyone around back then?? UTC I think unsaid u were around before AM even?? I think Boston mafia board or something was around this time.
I remember that somehow david amuroso got a donnie brasco interview before the massino conviction and donnie said "there is no way massino would flip. He is the last of the dieing bread."
And massino really was oldschool u can say... and some debate that he brought the bonannos from a "last place family " to a "second most powerful " in the country....
But the problem is that one swoop literally took the whole structure out. I think Cammarano Snr is like the only person in the bonannos who DIDNT flip... so the family really wasn't shit at said time.
I think the death penalty is what scared him. He made it through the first trials and took life , correct???
I think hes definitely ashamed of himself
His own wife dont fuck w him anymore. At least while he was locked up she didnt.
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Lol if they have 16 subscibers than on that useless crimflick they were on at $7 they made $112 which half of it most likely went to crime flick so they profited $56 between the 2 of them so each guy was making $28 a month at that point they should of just done the free youtube show.I think carnise is scared of gene, he usually goes hard on rats like rubeo but with gene he hasnt responded yet even though gene has called him out and is constantly making fun of himmafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:42 pm100% agree with everything you said. If they wanted to make a difference -- all of them -- this change their so big on and keep spouting left and right then why don't we see you doing something positive instead of constant hawking of merchandise and memberships and one-way pissing contests of who's the real gangster. They're all idiots. They all lied and continue to lie and in the case of the two bozos they bring on all their lying friends who couldn't face jail time and whined like a baby. And as Bozo #1 cried in a recent Instagram post that is now taken down....he was facing a life sentence while all his other buddies in that robbery gang were getting lesser sentences. So.....that excuses your behavior?Bruno187 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:15 pmI've seen Franzese turn the "New Yawkese" on and off, depending on what he's trying to accomplish. He comes off much more intelligently than the other two, and more sincere as well. When he doesn't know something or somebody, he'll typically cop to it, as opposed to Alite who probably tried to kill the guy at one time or at the very least hit him with a baseball bat. I can take the John and Gene thing in small doses, but find Franzese somewhat more interesting.mafiastudent wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:24 pmThat's sure to send the two bozos into a tizzy. One thing about Franzese (and I don't like any of them) is that the guy seems intelligent and talks like a normal person.JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:14 pm Franz just said hes now got a major motion picture being made about him
A Franzese TV show? Huh. Interesting.
With that said, all three are obviously trying to cash in and will take varying levels of liberties with the truth. Borello selling t-shirts and Franzese offering to make guys into his "inner circle" is a bit much.
Everything they repeat to the public is the BS that their handlers tell them to repeat and is the same BS that was told to them when they were being given deals. And now they've formed their own legitimate "Family of Rats" really is what it is.
And their constant BS about moving platforms and that they're the #1 show...well, it's not happening the way they want it to happen. They currently have 16 subscribers on patreon that's how "hot" they are. And how Bozo Borello decides to spend his time is stalking Canarsie which is even more hilarious because you have the battle of the liars with that one. They should all have a podcast together between their each individual fantasy tales and Canarsie insistence that he's a mob expert while reading his mob histories directly off of Wikipedia.
It still boggles my mind that I cannot find any documentation on Borrello. Not even in the state system. Rubeo. Russo. Most of the documentation is there though I haven't been able to find Hootie's sentencing report. Pasqua, probably the biggest loser of them all, his documentation is still in limbo as his lawyer is fighting the unsealing of some of those documents.
If you can go on podcasts then all of that documentation should be available to the general public. Hide addresses and other information, but why is everything else a secret?
And I'm still waiting to see all those "tapes and 302s" that Rubeo claims to have.
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bluehouse wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:29 ammafiastudent wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:42 pm100% agree with everything you said. If they wanted to make a difference -- all of them -- this change their so big on and keep spouting left and right then why don't we see you doing something positive instead of constant hawking of merchandise and memberships and one-way pissing contests of who's the real gangster. They're all idiots. They all lied and continue to lie and in the case of the two bozos they bring on all their lying friends who couldn't face jail time and whined like a baby. And as Bozo #1 cried in a recent Instagram post that is now taken down....he was facing a life sentence while all his other buddies in that robbery gang were getting lesser sentences. So.....that excuses your behavior?Bruno187 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:15 pmI've seen Franzese turn the "New Yawkese" on and off, depending on what he's trying to accomplish. He comes off much more intelligently than the other two, and more sincere as well. When he doesn't know something or somebody, he'll typically cop to it, as opposed to Alite who probably tried to kill the guy at one time or at the very least hit him with a baseball bat. I can take the John and Gene thing in small doses, but find Franzese somewhat more interesting.mafiastudent wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:24 pmThat's sure to send the two bozos into a tizzy. One thing about Franzese (and I don't like any of them) is that the guy seems intelligent and talks like a normal person.JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:14 pm Franz just said hes now got a major motion picture being made about him
A Franzese TV show? Huh. Interesting.
With that said, all three are obviously trying to cash in and will take varying levels of liberties with the truth. Borello selling t-shirts and Franzese offering to make guys into his "inner circle" is a bit much.
Everything they repeat to the public is the BS that their handlers tell them to repeat and is the same BS that was told to them when they were being given deals. And now they've formed their own legitimate "Family of Rats" really is what it is.
And their constant BS about moving platforms and that they're the #1 show...well, it's not happening the way they want it to happen. They currently have 16 subscribers on patreon that's how "hot" they are. And how Bozo Borello decides to spend his time is stalking Canarsie which is even more hilarious because you have the battle of the liars with that one. They should all have a podcast together between their each individual fantasy tales and Canarsie insistence that he's a mob expert while reading his mob histories directly off of Wikipedia.
It still boggles my mind that I cannot find any documentation on Borrello. Not even in the state system. Rubeo. Russo. Most of the documentation is there though I haven't been able to find Hootie's sentencing report. Pasqua, probably the biggest loser of them all, his documentation is still in limbo as his lawyer is fighting the unsealing of some of those documents.
If you can go on podcasts then all of that documentation should be available to the general public. Hide addresses and other information, but why is everything else a secret?
And I'm still waiting to see all those "tapes and 302s" that Rubeo claims to have.
Lol if they have 16 subscibers than on that useless crimflick they were on at $7 they made $112 which half of it most likely went to crime flick so they profited $56 between the 2 of them so each guy was making $28 a month at that point they should of just done the free youtube show.I think carnise is scared of gene, he usually goes hard on rats like rubeo but with gene he hasnt responded yet even though gene has called him out and is constantly making fun of him
I was willing to put my issue with Jeff aside when this Rubeo stuff came up. He had allll the Rubeo documents so that he could go at them with facts. He always talks about all the court documents, tapes, and proof he has. He has a website (a free blogpost site) where he could have written an article or posted them up or portions of them up. He didn't. He could've done a podcast citing the proof to contradict all that was said and backed it up with posting the proof. He didn't. Yet he continues to talk tough behind the mic even going at them again this last podcast.
It's bullshit. You block people on Instagram and Facebook for no reason because they go back at you (I'm blocked after ONE interaction with him on FB where he came at me and tried to educate me on being a journalist). He only (which he admitted on this last podcast) will let you follow him on Instagram if he knows you. If you consider yourself a "radio host" and "public personality" well, you take the good with the bad. You can't turn around in your rants and say "you'll never survive if you can't take criticism" and then block anyone that slap backs at you. Obviously, if there is someone harassing you, you can block them, turn them off. But if you're going to go at people then you need to expect that those same people are going to come at you.
Add in the fact that he's switching platforms (which is sort of interesting that he said he's going to have exclusive content available on YouTube which just happens to be the way the Bozo show is doing it with their ridiculous tiers on Patreon) and saying he's doing it because people are copying off him. Who the hell is copying off you? I was literally called out by one of his "fans" because in one of my first podcasts I say I'm going down rabbit holes. How the hell would I even know he used that and secondly is that some exclusive phraseology? Not to mention that that "question" from his "fan" came from a fake FB account.
Plus, you're a public personality but you're not going to let everyone join your new platform. I don't get it. You don't have comments available on your channel when there's an option to moderate comments so if there are really bad comments, you can delete them. Easy peasy.
And then of course we have the issue of him reading his histories and bios directly off Wikipedia and acting like all those other morons in various FB groups - like its their own work. His Montana and this Bonanno thing are two examples that I know of for sure after someone brought it to my attention and I checked myself. If you want to use Wiki that's your perogative and I don't care. However, at least say. oh, this is Wikipedia and I'm just adding in nuances just to make it sound like I wrote it. And my issue with that is that he criticized me for allowing Ruckus radio to read some of our stories on his show. Well, he gives us credit, says where the article is from and from what I've seen he gives credit to every other article he reads. And even if he DIDN'T who the hell are you to call people out when you would be doing the exact same thing reading WIKIPEDIA.
And please don't get me started on his BS exaggerations because that will take me all day. I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt but when you say that you were the landscaper for Tomasso Buscetta before you knew he was Tomasso Buscetta (when he was in hiding apparently), there are some serious ethical issues there. So that kind of BS makes me question anything that comes out of his mouth. If you want to have your schtick fine, but at least be honest about it.
As far as Gene, he's engaging in online bullying which is just dumb whether or not Jeff sets himself up for that or not. I don't understand how he got involved with the other bozo but it's like oil and water. The only one that I've seen so far (and I've only watched Rubeo and Hootie) that has some sort of authenticity at least in how he presents himself, and I hate to say it, is Hootie at least parts of it. After he gets over his ass kissing of the ringleader, there is at least a bit of genuineness in how he talks and how he started off in that interview. I have no respect for any of them. This is the life you chose so you have to take the good and the bad whatever it may be, young or old, but I am trying to be fair.
That was a long rant but the BS needs to stop.
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And one final thing. Borrello posted a video on Instagram after that Rubeo podcast telling Jeff to come on his show. So, for all of Jeff's tough talk about how they'll never have me on their show because they don't want anyone calling him out that's said constantly.....well there was the invitation. He could've done it via video. i doubt that if jeff would have taken the challenge that Gene would've backed down.
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So, as far as the violence goes - it does seem he's right in that the violence has dropped dramatically in LCN. No one really seems to be killing like before. It's just loan sharks and gambling - but they have always been doing it.
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Gene looks like a Squid..slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:06 pm I dont believe Gene when he says he was the only shooter in the Bonannos and was the toughest mobster on the streets. He had 3 attempted murders so he technically isn’t even a killer. Plus, compared to other families the Bonanno’s have a decent amount of shooters. Anyone else think Borello’s full of himself and exaggerates a lot?
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LCN leaders realized in the mid 90’s that murders aren’t good for business since it attracts a lot of heat. There’s always gunna be a hit every 5 years or so but the mob is never going to be killing people like in 50’s-80’s. I think the last guy to get whacked in new york was Vincent Zito in October 2018. And even that was solved in only 5 months.
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there's plenty more going on than that.
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Yeah I agree they just evolved, they had too the heat was too much and there would be nothing left. It will never be how it was, that’s the nature of all things. Gene isn’t necessarily wrong in what he says sometimes just seems to not understand why things had to change.slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:14 pmLCN leaders realized in the mid 90’s that murders aren’t good for business since it attracts a lot of heat. There’s always gunna be a hit every 5 years or so but the mob is never going to be killing people like in 50’s-80’s. I think the last guy to get whacked in new york was Vincent Zito in October 2018. And even that was solved in only 5 months.
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All valid points. I just remember another poster saying (from a post on Lucchese murdere in the 80s) that was when they used to put in work.
Crea is probably a great example of what happens when you try to get back to that old violence again.
Crea is probably a great example of what happens when you try to get back to that old violence again.
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Sorry for the double post, but what's all of your thoughts in the "lack of fear" the albanians have? I thought that was comical, especially if the order to kill pasquale parrello's son came from Frank LoCascio.
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Crea is a great example of just that!
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I swear to god if anyone orders that ill fucking kill myself and gene borello
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He probably did honestly..
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That was me. That was back when the guineas were tough.
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