Chuck Zito vs Henry Hill

[The Greek]

Chuck Zito is thought of as a clown in LA.

[chubby]

I don’t know how anyone can back jr. gotti and honestly claim that he isn’t a rat... he proffered with the fbi and there is 302’s... he gave up watts and Danny Marino. Those are facts... only gotti fan boys argue in his favor.... talking to the fbi and giving up other people for past crimes is ratting.... and the whole point of a proffer is to sit down with the fbi and try to come to an agreement on flipping... when it comes to ratting it’s black and white. If you give up information to feds that’s snitching. There’s no way around that.

[Amershire_Ed]

I don’t know how anyone can back jr. gotti and honestly claim that he isn’t a rat... he proffered with the fbi and there is 302’s... he gave up watts and Danny Marino. Those are facts... only gotti fan boys argue in his favor.... talking to the fbi and giving up other people for past crimes is ratting.... and the whole point of a proffer is to sit down with the fbi and try to come to an agreement on flipping... when it comes to ratting it’s black and white. If you give up information to feds that’s snitching. There’s no way around that.

This is basically what Franzese did and he’s widely considered a rat. He gave up info to Feds on who he was made with, who was in what role with the family, and more. But he never got up on a stand and said this information. I believe the only person he actually testified against was his own black associate, Norby Walters. As far as I know Franzese never testified against any wise guys.

I’m not sure why Jr doesn’t get the same label. He gave information about his borgata to the Feds. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

[bert]

I don’t know how anyone can back jr. gotti and honestly claim that he isn’t a rat... he proffered with the fbi and there is 302’s... he gave up watts and Danny Marino. Those are facts... only gotti fan boys argue in his favor.... talking to the fbi and giving up other people for past crimes is ratting.... and the whole point of a proffer is to sit down with the fbi and try to come to an agreement on flipping... when it comes to ratting it’s black and white. If you give up information to feds that’s snitching. There’s no way around that.

He never one through with it, the FBI some paperework, or gave it to Alite to leak, but Gotti sent no one away, and kept fighting trials.

[bert]

I don’t know how anyone can back jr. gotti and honestly claim that he isn’t a rat... he proffered with the fbi and there is 302’s... he gave up watts and Danny Marino. Those are facts... only gotti fan boys argue in his favor.... talking to the fbi and giving up other people for past crimes is ratting.... and the whole point of a proffer is to sit down with the fbi and try to come to an agreement on flipping... when it comes to ratting it’s black and white. If you give up information to feds that’s snitching. There’s no way around that.

This is basically what Franzese did and he’s widely considered a rat. He gave up info to Feds on who he was made with, who was in what role with the family, and more. But he never got up on a stand and said this information. I believe the only person he actually testified against was his own black associate, Norby Walters. As far as I know Franzese never testified against any wise guys.

I’m not sure why Jr doesn’t get the same label. He gave information about his borgata to the Feds. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Franseze is now saying the Mafia killed JFK and that he has info on it. The guy ran out of things to talk about a couple of years ago, so now he keeps making shit up.

[bluehouse]

Zito said hes been in over 100 street fights but yet absolutely no proof or video anywhere.He also would call HS show and talk about all the chicks he banged like 1 time he was filling his car and he banged a chick in a gas station toilet.Yeah that sounds really believable

By the time you get the key, and the smell, you can lose interest.

That doesnt matter for Zito because later that day he was walking his dog and he walked into a victoria secret model convention and he had a orgy with 300 VS models.Then as he was walking out he got into a fight with deontay wilder and tyson fury at the same time and knocked them both out.Then he finally got home and fucked the entire NY giants cheerleading squad that just happened to be passing by his house at 5 in the morning

You're mixing him up with John Alite.

John Alite is a liar but alot of what he says is the truth mixed with lies.He has shot a few people and stabbed then he just pads the numbers and how it went down.

Basicly this is how Alite lies vs Zito lies are.Alite would fuck a fat ugly 400 pound bitch and claim he is fucking a hot a model.Zito would fuck noone and sit at home and jerkoff and claim he is fucking 20 supermodels and 5 A list hollywood actresses

[100100]

Zito said hes been in over 100 street fights but yet absolutely no proof or video anywhere.He also would call HS show and talk about all the chicks he banged like 1 time he was filling his car and he banged a chick in a gas station toilet.Yeah that sounds really believable

By the time you get the key, and the smell, you can lose interest.

That doesnt matter for Zito because later that day he was walking his dog and he walked into a victoria secret model convention and he had a orgy with 300 VS models.Then as he was walking out he got into a fight with deontay wilder and tyson fury at the same time and knocked them both out.Then he finally got home and fucked the entire NY giants cheerleading squad that just happened to be passing by his house at 5 in the morning

You're mixing him up with John Alite.

John Alite is a liar but alot of what he says is the truth mixed with lies.He has shot a few people and stabbed then he just pads the numbers and how it went down.

Basicly this is how Alite lies vs Zito lies are.Alite would fuck a fat ugly 400 pound bitch and claim he is fucking a hot a model.Zito would fuck noone and sit at home and jerkoff and claim he is fucking 20 supermodels and 5 A list hollywood actresses

Seems like you have this weird ass hatred for Zito. But yeah Zito aint a bum as you make it seem like. That guy isn't sitting at home, he's still a guy with celebrity connections and on podcasts random celebs have said you'll just see him at parties with people he knows.

Im not his biggest fan but c'mon, you're reaching for material.

[bluehouse]

Zito said hes been in over 100 street fights but yet absolutely no proof or video anywhere.He also would call HS show and talk about all the chicks he banged like 1 time he was filling his car and he banged a chick in a gas station toilet.Yeah that sounds really believable

By the time you get the key, and the smell, you can lose interest.

That doesnt matter for Zito because later that day he was walking his dog and he walked into a victoria secret model convention and he had a orgy with 300 VS models.Then as he was walking out he got into a fight with deontay wilder and tyson fury at the same time and knocked them both out.Then he finally got home and fucked the entire NY giants cheerleading squad that just happened to be passing by his house at 5 in the morning

You're mixing him up with John Alite.

John Alite is a liar but alot of what he says is the truth mixed with lies.He has shot a few people and stabbed then he just pads the numbers and how it went down.

Basicly this is how Alite lies vs Zito lies are.Alite would fuck a fat ugly 400 pound bitch and claim he is fucking a hot a model.Zito would fuck noone and sit at home and jerkoff and claim he is fucking 20 supermodels and 5 A list hollywood actresses

Seems like you have this weird ass hatred for Zito. But yeah Zito aint a bum as you make it seem like. That guy isn't sitting at home, he's still a guy with celebrity connections and on podcasts random celebs have said you'll just see him at parties with people he knows.

Im not his biggest fan but c'mon, you're reaching for material.

This is a thread about Zito isnt it ??????????????????? so what the fuck am i suppose to talk about????????Have you actually listened to him when he was on stern?His actual words were that he was in 1000s of street fights and he actually also claimed he was at a restraunt and he fucked another guys girlfriend she followed him in the bathroom also the gas station bathroom sex story.These are basicly the only times i listened to him and he was on the show dozens of times so imagine what else he said.Also Robin called him out on it that his stories seem fake and he just sat there and said nothing

who gives a fuck if he has Hollywood connections im talking about his bullshit stories that anyone over the age of 15 can see that hes bullshiting.But hey i mean you can believe him and look up to him as much as you want

[outfit guy]

I agree with bluehouse. No one is saying we could take Zito in a fight. And we're not saying he was never good with his hands. But, he seems more like a bully. He seems to hit a lot of civilians. Maybe they deserved it; a lot of Wall St. and celebrity-type assholes in L.A. and Manhattan. Please note how the web is now sanitized of the ass-licking he took at Tao by a Colombo associate. Most commenters that have been in his company call him an asshole. Bo Dietl is another one name-dropping and "smacking" people.

[bluehouse]

I agree with bluehouse. No one is saying we could take Zito in a fight. And we're not saying he was never good with his hands. But, he seems more like a bully. He seems to hit a lot of civilians. Maybe they deserved it; a lot of Wall St. and celebrity-type assholes in L.A. and Manhattan. Please note how the web is now sanitized of the ass-licking he took at Tao by a Colombo associate. Most commenters that have been in his company call him an asshole. Bo Dietl is another one name-dropping and "smacking" people.

I honestley dont even think he smacked civilians because in this day and age people sue.Some straight guy who knows nothing about gangs or or OC if you assault him he goes straight to the cops.

Bo Dietl was only able to smack people around because he was a cop.He always brags that he used to go to Latin Kings neighbourhoods and beat the fuck out of gang members.It may be true but the only reason he didnt get killed is because he had a badge.The 90s LK weere huge and were dropping bodies more than any gang in NY you really think these guys were scared of a fat middle aged man?They took the beating because thts how gang life is/was.Bo is no longer a cop he could easily go to a LK neighbourhood now and start beating up on gang members,Lets see if he has the balls to

[srg16]

Bert, you said, "As for Gotti jr, it's only internet posters who consider him to be rat based on one story that is questionable."

So let me get this straight... Jr. sitting down with the feds and proffering resulting in recorded 302s is only understood to be ratting by internet posters and not the streets?

Not following where your coming from although I feel the same about Alite.

The jury is still out on Gotti Jr and this move....good point

[UTC]

Zito said hes been in over 100 street fights but yet absolutely no proof or video anywhere.He also would call HS show and talk about all the chicks he banged like 1 time he was filling his car and he banged a chick in a gas station toilet.Yeah that sounds really believable

By the time you get the key, and the smell, you can lose interest.

That doesnt matter for Zito because later that day he was walking his dog and he walked into a victoria secret model convention and he had a orgy with 300 VS models.Then as he was walking out he got into a fight with deontay wilder and tyson fury at the same time and knocked them both out.Then he finally got home and fucked the entire NY giants cheerleading squad that just happened to be passing by his house at 5 in the morning

LMAO!!!! gold

[Stroccos]

I don’t know how anyone can back jr. gotti and honestly claim that he isn’t a rat... he proffered with the fbi and there is 302’s... he gave up watts and Danny Marino. Those are facts... only gotti fan boys argue in his favor.... talking to the fbi and giving up other people for past crimes is ratting.... and the whole point of a proffer is to sit down with the fbi and try to come to an agreement on flipping... when it comes to ratting it’s black and white. If you give up information to feds that’s snitching. There’s no way around that.

This is basically what Franzese did and he’s widely considered a rat. He gave up info to Feds on who he was made with, who was in what role with the family, and more. But he never got up on a stand and said this information. I believe the only person he actually testified against was his own black associate, Norby Walters. As far as I know Franzese never testified against any wise guys.

I’m not sure why Jr doesn’t get the same label. He gave information about his borgata to the Feds. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Franzese got on the stand ! He’s a rat plain and simple
He’s a snake oils salesman

[Amershire_Ed]

I don’t know how anyone can back jr. gotti and honestly claim that he isn’t a rat... he proffered with the fbi and there is 302’s... he gave up watts and Danny Marino. Those are facts... only gotti fan boys argue in his favor.... talking to the fbi and giving up other people for past crimes is ratting.... and the whole point of a proffer is to sit down with the fbi and try to come to an agreement on flipping... when it comes to ratting it’s black and white. If you give up information to feds that’s snitching. There’s no way around that.

This is basically what Franzese did and he’s widely considered a rat. He gave up info to Feds on who he was made with, who was in what role with the family, and more. But he never got up on a stand and said this information. I believe the only person he actually testified against was his own black associate, Norby Walters. As far as I know Franzese never testified against any wise guys.

I’m not sure why Jr doesn’t get the same label. He gave information about his borgata to the Feds. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Franzese got on the stand ! He’s a rat plain and simple
He’s a snake oils salesman

I never said he wasn’t! I’m very much in the Franzese is a rat camp.

I’m just saying giving info to the Feds in a proffer session is very much ratting.

[MichaelGiovanni]

I don’t understand why people get so worked up over rats. It’s like it’s personal or something. Either that or it’s just the ‘cool’ thing to do. Maybe it makes ya feel better I don’t know.