Salvatore Scoppa shot in Laval

[stubbs]

Seems like it was pretty brazen, it looks like he was killed in a hotel lobby, right? Seems way too public.

[Laurentian]

Meurtre de Salvatore Scoppa: «Des enfants couraient partout»

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... artout.php

[scagghiuni]

meurtre-de-salvatore-scoppa-la-these-des-siciliens-la-plus-plausible

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... usible.php

[dixiemafia]

maybe the answer of the rizzuto's for the pat musitano attempted murder

Don't think it's related. Salvatore Scoppa had been marked for years now. He was reportedly both at odds with Sollecito and his own brother Andrea.

Agreed. No way this was retaliation to Musitano.

But don't get me wrong, this is a major hit in Montreal. Will be interesting to see if there are attempts on his brother or not from here on out.

Lupara I was under the impression as well that they were still at odds with each other meaning the brothers. When Frederick Silva shot at one of them I was under the impression it was possible one of the brothers hired Silva to shoot at the other but I can't remember right off hand why I thought that nor do I have a link to prove it.

[dixiemafia]

Seems like it was pretty brazen, it looks like he was killed in a hotel lobby, right? Seems way too public.

Yes with a wedding in the other conference room of that hotel I think it was. People supposedly watched this hit happen.

[scagghiuni]

Agreed. No way this was retaliation to Musitano.

i think the montreal and ontario wars are related, the same factions fighting... rizzuto/musitano/caruana-cuntrera against bonanno/buffalo (violi/luppino) families

[dixiemafia]

Agreed. No way this was retaliation to Musitano.

i think the montreal and ontario wars are related, the same factions fighting... rizzuto/musitano/caruana-cuntrera against bonanno/buffalo (violi/luppino) families

I never said the wars were not tied, I just said the hit itself is not part of THAT war. The Scoppa's have enough to deal with as it is than to hop down to Hamilton and try to kill Musitano. They had their hands full in Montreal.

[scagghiuni]

I never said the wars were not tied, I just said the hit itself is not part of THAT war. The Scoppa's have enough to deal with as it is than to hop down to Hamilton and try to kill Musitano. They had their hands full in Montreal.

i didnt' mean the scoppa's planned musitano hit, i meant the rizzuto's enemies tried to kill pat musitano and they answered killing scoppa

[Lupara]

maybe the answer of the rizzuto's for the pat musitano attempted murder

Don't think it's related. Salvatore Scoppa had been marked for years now. He was reportedly both at odds with Sollecito and his own brother Andrea.

Agreed. No way this was retaliation to Musitano.

But don't get me wrong, this is a major hit in Montreal. Will be interesting to see if there are attempts on his brother or not from here on out.

Lupara I was under the impression as well that they were still at odds with each other meaning the brothers. When Frederick Silva shot at one of them I was under the impression it was possible one of the brothers hired Silva to shoot at the other but I can't remember right off hand why I thought that nor do I have a link to prove it.

I think that Silva is mostly tied to Stefano Sollecito. The brothers were reportedly not on the same page but I doubt they would try to kill each other.

I'm interested to know who Salvatore Scoppa's associates/connections are if he was in a position to challenge the Sollecito/Rizzuto regime. It's crazy if he's the one who's behind the Sollecito, Sr., Spagnolo, Sr. and Giordano murders and ordered those hits without support.

The Scoppas being allegedly independent doesn't make much sense to me if at least one of them is a made member. The journalists who write these reports should expand upon this statement instead of repeating it.

But at least we now get a picture of the story behind the conflict that's going since 2016. I think it's however to easy to presume it was simply the Scoppas vs. the Sicilians.

[Lupara]

I never said the wars were not tied, I just said the hit itself is not part of THAT war. The Scoppa's have enough to deal with as it is than to hop down to Hamilton and try to kill Musitano. They had their hands full in Montreal.

i didnt' mean the scoppa's planned musitano hit, i meant the rizzuto's enemies tried to kill pat musitano and they answered killing scoppa

It's possible the Scoppas are supported by the Violis and others outside Montreal but if Salvatore had a hand in the Rizzito group leaders in 2016 his murder is a result of that. I agree with dixie that the Scoppas seem to have better things to do in Montreal than going after the Musitanos outside of their own turf. Even though it may be related I think these are separate conflicts.

Who knows the momentum has shifted again since the Violi incarceration. Sollecito and Rizzuto got a lucky break when they were incarcerated themselves otherwise they may possibly have been the first to go. Apparantly at the time they were unaware that their lives were in danger. Now the Rizzuto group seem to have survived two major coup attempts just because their leaders were behind bars and could bide to their time.

[Lupara]

I never said the wars were not tied, I just said the hit itself is not part of THAT war. The Scoppa's have enough to deal with as it is than to hop down to Hamilton and try to kill Musitano. They had their hands full in Montreal.

i didnt' mean the scoppa's planned musitano hit, i meant the rizzuto's enemies tried to kill pat musitano and they answered killing scoppa

It's possible the Scoppas are supported by the Violis and others outside Montreal but if Salvatore had a hand in the Rizzito group leaders in 2016 his murder is a result of that. I agree with dixie that the Scoppas seem to have better things to do in Montreal than going after the Musitanos outside of their own turf. Even though it may be related I think these are separate conflicts.

Who knows the momentum has shifted again since the Violi incarceration. Sollecito and Rizzuto got a lucky break when they were incarcerated themselves otherwise they may possibly have been the first to go. Apparantly at the time they were unaware that their lives were in danger. Now the Rizzuto group seem to have survived two major coup attempts just because their leaders were behind bars and could bide to their time. Luck has been on their side since 2011.

[scagghiuni]

It's possible the Scoppas are supported by the Violis and others outside Montreal but if Salvatore had a hand in the Rizzito group leaders in 2016 his murder is a result of that. I agree with dixie that the Scoppas seem to have better things to do in Montreal than going after the Musitanos outside of their own turf. Even though it may be related I think these are separate conflicts.

Who knows the momentum has shifted again since the Violi incarceration. Sollecito and Rizzuto got a lucky break when they were incarcerated themselves otherwise they may possibly have been the first to go. Apparantly at the time they were unaware that their lives were in danger. Now the Rizzuto group seem to have survived two major coup attempts just because their leaders were behind bars and could bide to their time. Luck has been on their side since 2011.

i think the rizzuto's and caruana-cuntrera are behind cecè luppino murder, the shooter seems to be haitian and sent from montreal, the violi/luppino answered shotting pat musitano and the rizzuto's killing scoppa in montreal who is aligned with rizzuto's enemies in montreal, maybe scoppa was made a bonanno member by sal montagna when he was alive

[Moscone65]

maybe the answer of the rizzuto's for the pat musitano attempted murder

Don't think it's related. Salvatore Scoppa had been marked for years now. He was reportedly both at odds with Sollecito and his own brother Andrea.

Agreed. No way this was retaliation to Musitano.

But don't get me wrong, this is a major hit in Montreal. Will be interesting to see if there are attempts on his brother or not from here on out.

Lupara I was under the impression as well that they were still at odds with each other meaning the brothers. When Frederick Silva shot at one of them I was under the impression it was possible one of the brothers hired Silva to shoot at the other but I can't remember right off hand why I thought that nor do I have a link to prove it.

I think that Silva is mostly tied to Stefano Sollecito. The brothers were reportedly not on the same page but I doubt they would try to kill each other.

I'm interested to know who Salvatore Scoppa's associates/connections are if he was in a position to challenge the Sollecito/Rizzuto regime. It's crazy if he's the one who's behind the Sollecito, Sr., Spagnolo, Sr. and Giordano murders and ordered those hits without support.

The Scoppas being allegedly independent doesn't make much sense to me if at least one of them is a made member. The journalists who write these reports should expand upon this statement instead of repeating it.

But at least we now get a picture of the story behind the conflict that's going since 2016. I think it's however to easy to presume it was simply the Scoppas vs. the Sicilians.

In a side note, the Rizzuto’s aren’t even overwhelmingly Sicilian anymore. Many members are from other parts of southern italy. Examples like arcadi (calabrese) and sollecito (Barese) ect

[Lupara]

It's possible the Scoppas are supported by the Violis and others outside Montreal but if Salvatore had a hand in the Rizzito group leaders in 2016 his murder is a result of that. I agree with dixie that the Scoppas seem to have better things to do in Montreal than going after the Musitanos outside of their own turf. Even though it may be related I think these are separate conflicts.

Who knows the momentum has shifted again since the Violi incarceration. Sollecito and Rizzuto got a lucky break when they were incarcerated themselves otherwise they may possibly have been the first to go. Apparantly at the time they were unaware that their lives were in danger. Now the Rizzuto group seem to have survived two major coup attempts just because their leaders were behind bars and could bide to their time. Luck has been on their side since 2011.

i think the rizzuto's and caruana-cuntrera are behind cecè luppino murder, the shooter seems to be haitian and sent from montreal, the violi/luppino answered shotting pat musitano and the rizzuto's killing scoppa in montreal who is aligned with rizzuto's enemies in montreal, maybe scoppa was made a bonanno member by sal montagna when he was alive

As we know based on wiretap evidence Pat was on a dead list long before Cece Luppino was hit. The latter's murder seems like revenge for either Angelo Musitano or a response from Montreal. It may be a Musitano-Cuntrera-Rizzuto alliance in Ontario against Luppino-Violi and perhaps some 'Ndrangheta clans but I doubt the Scoppas have anything to do with what's going on in Hamilton. In Montreal I believe it's an internal struggle, as it has always been. Not to mention that Sal Scoppa was marked long before Musitano, for reasons completely unrelated.

Btw, Cece Luppino's killers being from Montreal does not necessarily mean the order came from there. Out of town killers are often used as they are less likely to be recognised/caught.

Lastly, I suggested that they may have been made by Montagna. And since they were apparantly under Moreno Gallo, who sided with Montagna, it may be possible. But just as Rizzuto after returning from jail Montagna had a very short tenure as a leader in Montreal so he wouldn't just make people on the get-go. And if they were supposedly a more or less independent group who were neutral I wonder what incentive there would have been to induct them in the first place. Once Scoppa was made into a Mafia group he could no longer be independent. It's either one of two scenarios, the Scoppas were similar to Giuseppe de Vito sort of a rogue group, or they were on record/inducted into a recognised Mafia group which would've ultimately been the Bonannos or otherwise the hypothesized Rizzuto group.

[antimafia]

Meurtre à Laval: la police déclare la guerre à la mafia
Un meurtre commis devant des centaines de personnes est jugé inadmissible

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/ ... a-la-mafia

Accompanying photos and video, some of which you may find disturbing, may be seen more easily at the following link: https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05/13/ ... n-de-laval

Also:

Meurtre d’un mafieux à l’hôtel Sheraton
« C’est allé trop loin »
La police de Laval augmentera la pression sur le crime organisé

http://plus.lapresse.ca/screens/cdd63c9 ... C___0.html

«Des gestes inacceptables du crime organisé», dénoncent les policiers

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05/13/ ... -policiers

Sans garde du corps, sans arme, le mafieux Scoppa ne se méfiait pas

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2019/05/13/ ... efiait-pas