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slimshady_007 wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:08 am Nicky corozzo, jojo corozzo, dom cefulu, matty madonna, anthony rabito. A lot of old timers still alive.
I wouldn't classify them as old timers. Corrozo and Cefalu are in their 70's - they're basically kids in the modern LCN. :lol:
Madonna wasn't a "major player" until the 90's when he was made after his long prison stretch. Rabito was made in what? The late 70's?
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:24 am
gohnjotti wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:21 am
Adam wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:19 am
gohnjotti wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:26 pm Salvatore Sparacio, 96, is scheduled to be released from a Springfield medical prison on May 4, 2020. He was given a 30-year sentence in 1996 for crimes relating to the Stanfa war. It's unfortunate, because although Sparacio was indicted with Frank Martines in a racketeering conspiracy that included murder, Sparacio was pretty much just linked to a big bookmaking operation. He was a capo at the time of his indictment.
Well, there was more than that. Murder conspiracy. I think there's a tape of Sparacio being told to be at a meeting so Merlino, Ciancaglini and Lucibello won't feel nervous so they can be killed. That's not bookmaking. That's agreeing to be part of a triple murder. And I still think he did something beyond book to get made in 82.
You're probably right, I just dug up an old article from his sentencing when Sonny asked. It sure implied that all Sparacio did was run a big bookmaking operation.


All he ever did was book.

SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:42 am Thanks Gents.

Wasn’t Migliore a Capo in the 70’s?

Nope. He wasn't made then. The Capo since the 70s was fresh street talk from the forums.


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So for Sparacio, tongue in cheek comment? Not sure Pogo. I don't think he should be in jail now, but he was part of some bad things. He wasn't just a bookmaker.
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It was a joke. That was what he said on one of the Stanfa tapes. :mrgreen:


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:18 am It was a joke. That was what he said on one of the Stanfa tapes. :mrgreen:


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That's what I thought. Anastasia gives him a bit of a pass in Goodfella tapes. But yeah, murderer or attempted murderer. Once again, not totally sure why Scarfo makes him in 82 without some violence in his past.
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Is Joseph JB Indelicato still around? He would know a thing or two about a thing or two
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don-shunter wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:06 pm Is Joseph JB Indelicato still around? He would know a thing or two about a thing or two
Didnt he become a capo?
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I think he was at some point but may have been retired or stepped down recently
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Quiet Dom Cirillo. We could find out once and for all the exact
admin structure of the West Side during the years after Costello up to Barney.
Was Benny Squint/Jerry Catena transition years.
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new england loaded up with old timers...shacks, pryce, bobby c, spucky, jimmy matarano, and a few guys have died recently...
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Adam wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:42 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:18 am It was a joke. That was what he said on one of the Stanfa tapes. :mrgreen:


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That's what I thought. Anastasia gives him a bit of a pass in Goodfella tapes. But yeah, murderer or attempted murderer. Once again, not totally sure why Scarfo makes him in 82 without some violence in his past.
That's one of the weird things about Scarfo. He required Philly-based members to participate in murders in order to get made but this didn't seem to apply to North Jersey and some other guys outside of Philly proper. Sparacio was originally from Camden, which produced many violent members, and he was old enough to have easily participated in some kind of little-known murder or serious violence over the years, but he was also very close to Scarfo's cousin Tony Piccolo going back many years which may have factored in. He also may have been proposed under Angelo Bruno so his induction was already in motion before Scarfo took over. Aside from his long history with gambling, all I know is that Sparacio was involved in a safe burglary in the 1950s.
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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:54 am Quiet Dom Cirillo. We could find out once and for all the exact
admin structure of the West Side during the years after Costello up to Barney.
Was Benny Squint/Jerry Catena transition years.
yeah I wonder what someone like Dom Cirillo's day to day is like?

hes definitely up there in age...going to be 90 next year? i forget who maybe it was PizzaBoy, used to say on the other boards that Dom is essentially retired and moved from the Bronx to Long Beach LI and just hangs out at a bar on the main drag there all day.

i wish I could find the article but years and years ago I remember reading a "profile" peice on Dom...maybe it was in the NY Sun when Capeci was writing there? that gave some great info on him. quoted cops / feds that investigated him. something that stuck out to me was that when they were tailing him, he would wake up in the morning, stop at a bakery, and drive down to East Harlem to bring pastries to and have coffee with older relatives. i thought jesus how much older can these relatives be? because at that point he was in his 70s. it also said he claimed to have been a retired something or other, surviving off a $500 social security check each month

was Dom's position as "messenger" overstated? i took it as he was a messenger who met with other families, yet with all the rats from that late 80s / early 90s era we dont have anyone talking about meets with him? was his position as an internal messenger? relaying messages from Gigante to other admin members and capos?
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Can anyone provide a comprehensive list of reputed members/Associates connected in the Utica NY area.
Both during and after the Falcone “era”. For instance, in the year 2018, is there still a presence to speak of. I know Carcone was said to have become a force.
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Re; can anyone provide a comprehensive/full list of members/associates in John (Sonny) Franzese’s group during his heyday of the late 1950’s-1970’s. And then again after he was released the first time from his bank robbery bit in late 1978.
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