Joe Biondo

[Frank]

Was Gambino and Genovese involved in sanctioning hit as has been thought. Or was Gambino not involved and just happened to replace Anastasia? It seems possible that the Biondo faction killed Albert without Gambino being involved in plot.

[HairyKnuckles]

Was Gambino and Genovese involved in sanctioning hit as has been thought. Or was Gambino not involved and just happened to replace Anastasia? It seems possible that the Biondo faction killed Albert without Gambino being involved in plot.

Tommy Lucchese and Vito Genovese sanctioned the hit but that doesn´t mean they were the ones who instigated it. Lucchese was the one who after the hit most firmly pushed for Gambino to take over. My personal opinion is that the instigators reached out for Lucchese prior to the hit through Gambino and were forced to settle with Gambino as the new boss. In return, Lucchese and Genovese secured their safety by having their backs on the Commission. In all, it was a perfect solution for all parties because the instigators were all bumped up to key positions within the Family.

I haven´t come across any mentions of Gambino being one of the instigators in the FBI files I have looked into. I guess it would have been mentioned in his file if that´s the case, but his file is very heavily redacted for some reason.

[Frank]

Was Gambino and Genovese involved in sanctioning hit as has been thought. Or was Gambino not involved and just happened to replace Anastasia? It seems possible that the Biondo faction killed Albert without Gambino being involved in plot.

Tommy Lucchese and Vito Genovese sanctioned the hit but that doesn´t mean they were the ones who instigated it. Lucchese was the one who after the hit most firmly pushed for Gambino to take over. My personal opinion is that the instigators reached out for Lucchese prior to the hit through Gambino and were forced to settle with Gambino as the new boss. In return, Lucchese and Genovese secured their safety by having their backs on the Commission. In all, it was a perfect solution for all parties because the instigators were all bumped up to key positions within the Family.

I haven´t come across any mentions of Gambino being one of the instigators in the FBI files I have looked into. I guess it would have been mentioned in his file if that´s the case, but his file is very heavily redacted for some reason.

Thanks knuckles that is interesting possible take on the hit. That basically it originated with the Biondo faction and that everyone that had a problem with Anastasia at the time benefits from it. History says that not only Genovese and Lucchese took advantage of the situation,but also Lanskey and Trafficonte were not to pleased with Anastasia at the time. Just think if Franco hadn't told Biondo about Albert's plan to kill Biondo faction how mob history would of been very different. Anastasia was not real old and would of lived possibly to the 1980s

[Lupara]

Why didn't Biondo become boss if he was the instigator? Hard to believe Gambino wasn't involved. It was him who clearly benefited the most.

[Frank]

My point mainly is that the Biondo faction being on Anastasia's hit list,went to the Commission maybe maybe with Carlo representing them at meeting and that is what initiated the hit on Anastasia, rather than Lucchese, Genovese and Gambino conspiring from the start. Of course it worked out for everyone but Albert.

[Frank]

Or didn't someone post that they killed Anastasia first and then were called in by the Commission and explained it was self defense. That if true would leave at least Lucchese and Genovese out of the hit altogether.

[Selig]

Was Gambino and Genovese involved in sanctioning hit as has been thought. Or was Gambino not involved and just happened to replace Anastasia? It seems possible that the Biondo faction killed Albert without Gambino being involved in plot.

We have to be clear about the context of the Anastasia hit: Frank Costello had been shot in a botched assassination attempt in May that year and Genovese was the prime instigator in that. Anastasia was Frank Costello's muscle in the fight for control of the Luciano/Costello/Genovese Family. Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchese were Vito's allies against Costello, each for their own reasons. Clearly Genovese, Gambino and Lucchese, along with others, had very good reasons to dispose of Anastasia. No one in Anastasia's Family would have dared to hit the Boss without being very certain of outside support.

[Frank]

Was Gambino and Genovese involved in sanctioning hit as has been thought. Or was Gambino not involved and just happened to replace Anastasia? It seems possible that the Biondo faction killed Albert without Gambino being involved in plot.

We have to be clear about the context of the Anastasia hit: Frank Costello had been shot in a botched assassination attempt in May that year and Genovese was the prime instigator in that. Anastasia was Frank Costello's muscle in the fight for control of the Luciano/Costello/Genovese Family. Carlo Gambino and Tommy Lucchese were Vito's allies against Costello, each for their own reasons. Clearly Genovese, Gambino and Lucchese, along with others, had very good reasons to dispose of Anastasia. No one in Anastasia's Family would have dared to hit the Boss without being very certain of outside support.

Ok that makes sense

[B.]

Carlo Gambino was the family's consigliere at the time of Anastasia's death, so he was already in a leadership position and probably represented/advocated for the Biondo guys. I don't know enough to say for sure, but the new boss wouldn't have necessarily been a part of the murder of the previous boss. Situations like Gotti aren't the norm... if anything, it would have been just as likely to put someone outside of the conspiracy in the position of boss as they would be seen as a "neutral" party.

[HairyKnuckles]

Why didn't Biondo become boss if he was the instigator? Hard to believe Gambino wasn't involved. It was him who clearly benefited the most.

Depends on what you mean by benefited the most. Biondo and Riccobono could easily have ended up in a trunk of a car for striking against their boss. Like I said, Lucchese and Genovese sanctioned the hit but they pushed for Gambino to become the new boss. Biondo and Riccobono were given administration positions. That was the deal they made. Normally, striking against a boss would result in serious repercussions. But Lucchese and Genovese had the instigator´s backs on the Commission. And the idea to make Gambino only provisional boss (for three years) pacified the rest of the Commission.