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And also, didn't Vinny B want Joe Cammarano Jr. to clip someone, not sure if it's the guy mentioned above as Stroccos stated. But Cammarano wouldn't do it. So, my best guess would be the same situation with Cirillo's son. Vinny wanting him clipped. Not taken care if by the Westside. So, Vinny or someone close to him clips Cirillo.
Even though these guys are criminals and killers, you can't count out the fact that they also have love for others, like their own flesh and blood. I mean, would a father with that type of respect and power "in the life" like Dom C had, kill or give the ok to kill his own son ? He'd do anything and everything in his power to keep his boy alive. Stalling, stalling and more stalling. Think about it.
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Even though these guys are criminals and killers, you can't count out the fact that they also have love for others, like their own flesh and blood. I mean, would a father with that type of respect and power "in the life" like Dom C had, kill or give the ok to kill his own son ? He'd do anything and everything in his power to keep his boy alive. Stalling, stalling and more stalling. Think about it.
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Re: Nicholas cirillo
Yes Vinny did want Joe to clip someone, but it was someone in his own family and not a different one I believe and he was dragging his feet so I dont see how that situation compares, unless I am not remembering correctly.AG777 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:34 am And also, didn't Vinny B want Joe Cammarano Jr. to clip someone, not sure if it's the guy mentioned above as Stroccos stated. But Cammarano wouldn't do it. So, my best guess would be the same situation with Cirillo's son. Vinny wanting him clipped. Not taken care if by the Westside. So, Vinny or someone close to him clips Cirillo.
Even though these guys are criminals and killers, you can't count out the fact that they also have love for others, like their own flesh and blood. I mean, would a father with that type of respect and power "in the life" like Dom C had, kill or give the ok to kill his own son ? He'd do anything and everything in his power to keep his boy alive. Stalling, stalling and more stalling. Think about it.
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Good point... look at even someone like Roy demeo... he stalled and made excuses for Chris Rosenberg ... he even cried over it...AG777 wrote:And also, didn't Vinny B want Joe Cammarano Jr. to clip someone, not sure if it's the guy mentioned above as Stroccos stated. But Cammarano wouldn't do it. So, my best guess would be the same situation with Cirillo's son. Vinny wanting him clipped. Not taken care if by the Westside. So, Vinny or someone close to him clips Cirillo.
Even though these guys are criminals and killers, you can't count out the fact that they also have love for others, like their own flesh and blood. I mean, would a father with that type of respect and power "in the life" like Dom C had, kill or give the ok to kill his own son ? He'd do anything and everything in his power to keep his boy alive. Stalling, stalling and more stalling. Think about it.
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100% if Nick C was done by Vinny and Dom on the sneak it would be very very dumb and retaliation would be certain ,They are the #1 suspects and Vinny has sons and there would be nowhere to hide , Had to come from The father QD ...Why would Dom let his son get killed ? , I know a few fathers that would kill there own sons and visa versa if they could get away with it ... shit happens , Chang went after his brother in Philly while the old man was in prison , The old man knew shit was going down ...try to wrap your head around that one
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How many everyday people have murdered their children or relatives? Not hard to believe a sociopathic murdering gangster would do the same.
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Re: Nicholas cirillo
Well one theroy is that Randy Pizzolo killed NIck Cirllojoeycigars wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:50 am 100% if Nick C was done by Vinny and Dom on the sneak it would be very very dumb and retaliation would be certain ,They are the #1 suspects and Vinny has sons and there would be nowhere to hide , Had to come from The father QD ...Why would Dom let his son get killed ? , I know a few fathers that would kill there own sons and visa versa if they could get away with it ... shit happens , Chang went after his brother in Philly while the old man was in prison , The old man knew shit was going down ...try to wrap your head around that one
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Stroccos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:34 amWell one theroy is that Randy Pizzolo killed NIck Cirllojoeycigars wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:50 am 100% if Nick C was done by Vinny and Dom on the sneak it would be very very dumb and retaliation would be certain ,They are the #1 suspects and Vinny has sons and there would be nowhere to hide , Had to come from The father QD ...Why would Dom let his son get killed ? , I know a few fathers that would kill there own sons and visa versa if they could get away with it ... shit happens , Chang went after his brother in Philly while the old man was in prison , The old man knew shit was going down ...try to wrap your head around that one
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Stroccos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:34 amWell one theroy is that Randy Pizzolo killed NIck Cirllojoeycigars wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:50 am 100% if Nick C was done by Vinny and Dom on the sneak it would be very very dumb and retaliation would be certain ,They are the #1 suspects and Vinny has sons and there would be nowhere to hide , Had to come from The father QD ...Why would Dom let his son get killed ? , I know a few fathers that would kill there own sons and visa versa if they could get away with it ... shit happens , Chang went after his brother in Philly while the old man was in prison , The old man knew shit was going down ...try to wrap your head around that one
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This NY Post article claims Pizzolo bragged about killing Nick Cirillo http://nypost.com/2006/02/17/mob-nose-o ... 04-murder/
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moneyman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:18 pm This NY Post article claims Pizzolo bragged about killing Nick Cirillo http://nypost.com/2006/02/17/mob-nose-o ... 04-murder/
Pizzolo, a hit man whose bullet-riddled body was found near his new BMW in December 2004, was killed after he bragged about rubbing out Nicholas Cirillo, the son of reputed Genovese leader Dominick “Quiet Don” Cirillo.
Where did this info come from ? I dont see how the NY Post came up with this ? no who ,where ,what or when he bragged about it , The source is not there . Very interesting though
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Interesting article. Wasn't aware of this slant to the Pizzola hit.
What did Cicale testify about the hit at Vinny's trial? Did he mention Cirillo as a motive?
What did Cicale testify about the hit at Vinny's trial? Did he mention Cirillo as a motive?
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That theory makes a lot more sense.Cheech wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:06 pmStroccos wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:34 amWell one theroy is that Randy Pizzolo killed NIck Cirllojoeycigars wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:50 am 100% if Nick C was done by Vinny and Dom on the sneak it would be very very dumb and retaliation would be certain ,They are the #1 suspects and Vinny has sons and there would be nowhere to hide , Had to come from The father QD ...Why would Dom let his son get killed ? , I know a few fathers that would kill there own sons and visa versa if they could get away with it ... shit happens , Chang went after his brother in Philly while the old man was in prison , The old man knew shit was going down ...try to wrap your head around that one
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Frank vasaturo is the source for that information it's stated in this appealjoeycigars wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:46 pmmoneyman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:18 pm This NY Post article claims Pizzolo bragged about killing Nick Cirillo http://nypost.com/2006/02/17/mob-nose-o ... 04-murder/Pizzolo, a hit man whose bullet-riddled body was found near his new BMW in December 2004, was killed after he bragged about rubbing out Nicholas Cirillo, the son of reputed Genovese leader Dominick “Quiet Don” Cirillo.
Where did this info come from ? I dont see how the NY Post came up with this ? no who ,where ,what or when he bragged about it , The source is not there . Very interesting though
https://casetext.com/case/us-v-basciano-38
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Re: Nicholas cirillo
I don't get it, if Pizzolo killed Nick Cirillo, was it with Basciano's authorization at Dom Cirillo's request or did Pizzolo do it for personal reasons, and this was the motive for him being killed later?
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Re: Nicholas cirillo
Stroccos wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:56 am
Frank vasaturo is the source for that information it's stated in this appeal
https://casetext.com/case/us-v-basciano-38
Dora Roman testified that Pizzolo confessed to her about the Cirrilo hit in the footnotes
http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20FCO ... 20BASCIANO
(1) Dora Roman's grand jury testimony and FBI report indicating that Pizzolo confessed to her that he had killed Cirillo;
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