Gangland October 31st 2024

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Re: Gangland October 31st 2024

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I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.
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gohnjotti wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.
Bro.... you took the words outta my mouth. I don't know why Blunts is so mad.

I just asked...number 1.... why planes, why NOT the mail? Number 2, why Liverpool? And number 3, there are lucrative alternatives to this "Cali weed" that these dudes seem to tunnel vision over. Like the BC bud the Bonnanos were DRIVING DOWN from Canada. Or the Oklahoma stuff.

It's nothing to get insulting or personal over. I'm really just criticizing this Italian for having access to such resources and being a bone head. Dudes are going from Cali to Chicago getting caught up, but an INTERNATIONAL flight is somehow....better? Somehow less risky? The money is worth it? Not at that markup.

What....250, 350$? It's the same markup as sending the stuff to fuckin Atlanta or wherever.....

Shit let's trade then... send me some of that good Moroccan.....
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CabriniGreen wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:13 am
gohnjotti wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.
Bro.... you took the words outta my mouth. I don't know why Blunts is so mad.

I just asked...number 1.... why planes, why NOT the mail? Number 2, why Liverpool? And number 3, there are lucrative alternatives to this "Cali weed" that these dudes seem to tunnel vision over. Like the BC bud the Bonnanos were DRIVING DOWN from Canada. Or the Oklahoma stuff.

It's nothing to get insulting or personal over. I'm really just criticizing this Italian for having access to such resources and being a bone head. Dudes are going from Cali to Chicago getting caught up, but an INTERNATIONAL flight is somehow....better? Somehow less risky? The money is worth it? Not at that markup.

What....250, 350$? It's the same markup as sending the stuff to fuckin Atlanta or wherever.....

Shit let's trade then... send me some of that good Moroccan.....
These are all valid questions ^
I think they thought a private plane wouldn't be screened so rigorously. They wouldn't have done it if they thought they were going to be stopped/intercepted. They were under the illusion that they would be able to walk on the plane no questions asked. Plus, the appeal/pageantry of taking a private jet is nice. If this Spears guy was photographing everything, I would imagine him and his girlfriend were posting photos on their Instagram of their private flight to England, minus the drugs.

Why Liverpool? Well, I guess that's where their connection was. The whole of Greater England is traversable in about 3-4 hours. It's not a big island. The thing with drug dealing, as I'm sure you know Cabrini, is that there's no universal price or marketplace that exists as it would if it were legal. Because it's illegal, the price for an individual is dictated by whichever connections they have. Granted, the internet makes things a lot more universal these days.

Lastly, I would just like to add; the reason we're reading about it in Gang Land News is precisely because it was boneheaded, ill-advised, reckless, stupid. Drugs circulate the globe incredibly efficiently, without private jets or culprits taking photographs.
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I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....
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the blood guy had to have gone and bought a long mitch blood green fur full length coat jumping on the private jet. the cooker holding the suitcases straggling and the wise guy dressed like gotti...
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Pmac2 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:46 am I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....

You can grow outside in NY?
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Pmac2 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:46 am I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....
Exactly. There was nothing too crazy about what when on here. I happens daily. These guys were not exactly low key with all the pictures they were taking and have poor risk assessments but the profits were there to be taken. Short term gains to get you by. The price of American weed in the UK and Amsterdam is totally ridiculous when you consider the over supply the UK and Canada have right now its very attractive.

So to the amazement of some, people do in fact smuggle large amounts of weed to the UK in this day and age.
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Blunts wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:47 am
Pmac2 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:46 am I'm a masshole. there's weed all over the place here and basically all new england except I think CT. were allowed to grow it outside and if you know what your doing can grow great bud. the value plummeted around here. even in stores I think you can buy 8th for 20 bucks never mind it's harvest season so your neighbor probaly sitting on 2 3pounds he grew in his backyard. usally gives it away or barters... I figured down south it's legal to but I seen a recent gambino bust they were bringing pounds from nyc to Florida. money's money. and the private jet thing I remember a few years ago you could rent one for 10k and go anywhere in the USA. I. guessing to go to England probaly double I'm assuming. 250k tax free drug deal isn't nothing to sneeze at that's a pay day in my book. never mind all the other deals the guys had going on. would make a great movie or short book lol a hooker, the blood, and wiseguy. sting written all over it....
Exactly. There was nothing too crazy about what when on here. I happens daily. These guys were not exactly low key with all the pictures they were taking and have poor risk assessments but the profits were there to be taken. Short term gains to get you by. The price of American weed in the UK and Amsterdam is totally ridiculous when you consider the over supply the UK and Canada have right now its very attractive.

So to the amazement of some, people do in fact smuggle large amounts of weed to the UK in this day and age.
No one's getting on private planes daily with 500 pounds of weed and strippers.
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CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.
Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.
These guys most likely werent big traffickers with connections to a plug.They were probably going to go to the uk for other reasons and they had friends who told them since your coming just bring as much coke and weed with you .So they bought all they could handle.
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bluehouse wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:01 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.
Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.
These guys most likely werent big traffickers with connections to a plug.They were probably going to go to the uk for other reasons and they had friends who told them since your coming just bring as much coke and weed with you .So they bought all they could handle.
This is a very reasonable take. I think you might be spot on with this.....
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gohnjotti wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:17 am I don't know what the disagreement is. I don't know if anyone is arguing this scheme was smart, nor that Petrosillo was smart.
I was trying to say it doesn't sound like a very smart scheme. But then it turned into a dick growing contest about who knew more about weed. Which I know nothing about.
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bluehouse wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:01 am
CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:52 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:19 am There has to be more financially lucrative crimes to commit here in the states, no? Traveling internationally to transport some coke and weed seems like a reach. Then again Spears seems like the type of guy that is almost thrilled when he gets arrested with some guys who have vowels in their name.
Lol. They say it was the Italian guys idea. Why are they trying to smuggle like, a load of drugs that seem fit for somewhere like Maryland to the UK of all places?
That's too small a load for the risk.....with no subterfuge beyond rich privilege? Silly stuff....

And what is the deal with private planes exactly?
Is the expectation for a search thst low? I'm too broke to know how thst shit works. If it's that easy, why arnt cartels and terrorist just chartering planes by the dozen? Or are they?


Also, it's funny how so many assume gangs don't maintain ranks and hierarchies.
These guys most likely werent big traffickers with connections to a plug.They were probably going to go to the uk for other reasons and they had friends who told them since your coming just bring as much coke and weed with you .So they bought all they could handle.
The wiretap Jerry cited indicates this - Petrosillo was attempting to round up other customers who might need stuff delivered to the U.K.
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Louis_Brasi wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:58 am Anyone have more info on how Nine-Trey is structured? Seems from that convo between Spears and Perna that they’re pretty tightly organized.
Nine trey is famous snitch rapper: six nine gang
Same with Cam'ron - Harlem native

Was at one point a big gang - I doubt since 69 they were anything
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CabriniGreen wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:04 pm
OcSleeper wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:30 pm There's been an uptick in trafficking from North America to elsewhere due to low prices caused by high supply right now. 500lbs of weed and 27lbs of coke isn't exactly a small supply.
International trafficking of weed is just silly. It's too bulky. Why do you think the cartels shifted to producing it here instead of trying to push it across the border?

And that's what....10 kilos of coke? That they probably bought wholesale in NY? It's really that much cheaper to buy in NY wholesale than going through the Albanians who source it direct from Colombia??

I've never heard of Amsterdam to NY bulk loads of weed. So yeah, it's a little weird to me to see international loads of illegal weed. Hash I could see.....
Especially with today's legal weed market
Usually weed is sold separately also - not mixed in with heroin or coke deals
Those two go together but not with weed
Oddly weed and meth are sold together tho
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OcSleeper wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:42 am Thanks for posting.

Shame there was no word on if Petrosillo was connected or what Bonanno and Gambino ties Spears has.
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