52'topics catch episode 1 Vito guzzo

[Buster123]

A couple if questions for Frank if you feel okey answering them.

What do you make of Guzzo Jrs status as a made guy? Obviously we know about the alleged way he was made in prison by De Leo, who's a weird case in itself..

Supposedly Vito took offence to being excused and forced to leave when other made guys were talking cosa nostra business. The narrative is he insisted on being made and De Leo made it happen. Weird circumstances and very unusual case all around..

Do you believe it happened that way, and do you think Guzzo Jr is officially recognized by all the other families and members?

And do you think he regrets it or is he gonna hit the streets running and advance in a family who definitely seems to need new blood of his caliber?

Why would he regret it?

Not saying he does, he doesn't seem like the type.

That said, he's getting older, the life changed, he served a lot of time etc.. People change.. He might have been out already if he hadn't pursued membership in prison. He was made in a very underwhelming manner (allegedly) and there might be an asterisk on his status.

That's true. Leaving prison in your sixties, nothing else to show for it, I'm sure he'll be grateful with whatever accolades he can get even if he isn't pursuing a life of crime into his retirement.

There is zero chance Guzzo isn’t involved when he gets out

[Pmac2]

I wonder what was deleo thinking he could induct a guy. doesn't he have to run it by someone. I mean of course he does and even that guy vito knows it. strange case. wasn't joe dinapoli luchese consig heard on tape or quoted saying we don't make guys in jail and we don't recognize them if they were. I think he was talking about the guy gaspipe made in jail. before he flipped. Andy russo made a guy the feds came out and said in mdc. fat larry sessa I think. I mean andy russo may have been official boss thou

[Buster123]

I wonder what was deleo thinking he could induct a guy. doesn't he have to run it by someone. I mean of course he does and even that guy vito knows it. strange case. wasn't joe dinapoli luchese consig heard on tape or quoted saying we don't make guys in jail and we don't recognize them if they were. I think he was talking about the guy gaspipe made in jail. before he flipped. Andy russo made a guy the feds came out and said in mdc. fat larry sessa I think. I mean andy russo may have been official boss thou

They ran it by Sally bread & he gave/got the ok

[Ridgewood 79]

Buster yes apparently they passed it through Sally bread ( r.i.p) I loved Sally what you see was what you got and Sally and Vito were really close on the street .

[Ridgewood 79]

And to anyone wondering if Vito is going to fall back in the life my bet is unfortunately yes Vito is definitely 100 percent that life and no I never found him to be regretful of anything other than maybe helping out people like cookie durso etc etc

[Augie]

Ridgewood apologies don’t mean to get off topic..curious what became of your uncle Navarra that you mentioned.? Who was he with, his story if you don’t mind getting into that? Thanks!

[Ridgewood 79]

Augie my uncle passed in 2000 he was a bonanno guy, checkout 52 topics episode 3 I'll be covering my uncle on episode 5