Collection of Paul Carparelli recordings

[Ivan]

I believe that Paulie has a brother named Anthony, who lives in Berwyn. That would make sense given the wiretap, if he was telling Brown that he “loved” this other guy (Sarno? Someone else locked up?) like his brother.

Paulie did say that he and the "loved' mystery man here had an altercation where they were threatening each other with guns and I can't see him pulling a stunt like that with a guy like Sarno without ending up like a guy like Zizzo.

[JoePuzzles234]

Nice work on the YouTube video Joe!

Thank you, glad that it's been helpful

I believe that Paulie has a brother named Anthony, who lives in Berwyn. That would make sense given the wiretap, if he was telling Brown that he “loved” this other guy (Sarno? Someone else locked up?) like his brother.

My understanding is that Paulie has a son named Paulie Jr, but I could be wrong.

Honestly have no clue, I just vaguely remember an article (maybe something from Gangster Report from back around ~ 2016 or so?), where they had his son down as Anthony and talked about his 2013 arrest with him testing positive for cocaine and all that.

[PolackTony]

I believe that Paulie has a brother named Anthony, who lives in Berwyn. That would make sense given the wiretap, if he was telling Brown that he “loved” this other guy (Sarno? Someone else locked up?) like his brother.

Paulie did say that he and the "loved' mystery man here had an altercation where they were threatening each other with guns and I can't see him pulling a stunt like that with a guy like Sarno without ending up like a guy like Zizzo.

Me neither, though who knows if he was just talking shit to Brown.

[Tonyd621]

In that court document appeal I think I posted. It's just an odd connection between Mark Dziuban and Caparelli. It said Dzuiban paid Carparelli and Brown living expenses, money for a hotel etc when they went to various cities to collect money for him. For example, he flew them two to Vegas and paid them a stipend to collect a debt and they couldn't find the guy so they come home and Dzuiban is even more in the hole. It's an odd couple as it seems Dzuiban has an old school approach and Carapelli is like the antithesis of keeping things on the down low with all of self righteous blabbering mouthing about he's proud of who he is and he doesn't give a f*ck...etc...how violent is his reputation? If you don't include the recordings how many assaults, homicides etc has he been actually rumored to be a part of?

[Ivan]

In that court document appeal I think I posted. It's just an odd connection between Mark Dziuban and Caparelli. It said Dzuiban paid Carparelli and Brown living expenses, money for a hotel etc when they went to various cities to collect money for him. For example, he flew them two to Vegas and paid them a stipend to collect a debt and they couldn't find the guy so they come home and Dzuiban is even more in the hole. It's an odd couple as it seems Dzuiban has an old school approach and Carapelli is like the antithesis of keeping things on the down low with all of self righteous blabbering mouthing about he's proud of who he is and he doesn't give a f*ck...etc...how violent is his reputation? If you don't include the recordings how many assaults, homicides etc has he been actually rumored to be a part of?

No murders that I know of, though he's a violent guy in general who's been arrested for punching out people over nothing etc.

[Ivan]

I believe that Paulie has a brother named Anthony, who lives in Berwyn. That would make sense given the wiretap, if he was telling Brown that he “loved” this other guy (Sarno? Someone else locked up?) like his brother.

Paulie did say that he and the "loved' mystery man here had an altercation where they were threatening each other with guns and I can't see him pulling a stunt like that with a guy like Sarno without ending up like a guy like Zizzo.

Me neither, though who knows if he was just talking shit to Brown.

Sarno will "only" be like 73~74 when he gets out assuming he lives that long (is he in good shape?). Wonder if he'll go back to the antics from around the turn of the century that got him where he is now.

[Snakes]

I believe that Paulie has a brother named Anthony, who lives in Berwyn. That would make sense given the wiretap, if he was telling Brown that he “loved” this other guy (Sarno? Someone else locked up?) like his brother.

Paulie did say that he and the "loved' mystery man here had an altercation where they were threatening each other with guns and I can't see him pulling a stunt like that with a guy like Sarno without ending up like a guy like Zizzo.

Me neither, though who knows if he was just talking shit to Brown.

Sarno will "only" be like 73~74 when he gets out assuming he lives that long (is he in good shape?). Wonder if he'll go back to the antics from around the turn of the century that got him where he is now.

He is allegedly not in great shape. Lost a lot of weight and at least for a time, was confined to a wheelchair. He's at Springfield, so his health problems are legitimate.

[PolackTony]

In that court document appeal I think I posted. It's just an odd connection between Mark Dziuban and Caparelli. It said Dzuiban paid Carparelli and Brown living expenses, money for a hotel etc when they went to various cities to collect money for him. For example, he flew them two to Vegas and paid them a stipend to collect a debt and they couldn't find the guy so they come home and Dzuiban is even more in the hole. It's an odd couple as it seems Dzuiban has an old school approach and Carapelli is like the antithesis of keeping things on the down low with all of self righteous blabbering mouthing about he's proud of who he is and he doesn't give a f*ck...etc...how violent is his reputation? If you don't include the recordings how many assaults, homicides etc has he been actually rumored to be a part of?

I'm not aware of any murders that Paulie specifically has been alleged to have taken part in. Apart from his time as an affiliate of the mob, however, he was also a 12th St Player, and thus I'd imagine that if he never actually shot anyone it probably wasn't for lack of trying. Gang stuff in Cicero was no joke; you have guys like Louie Rainone, for example, who did serious time for murdering a member of the rival Two-Two Boys by shotgun. Presumably, Paulie was heavily involved with violent crime since his youth. Through the 80s it was the Players and Noble Knights fighting Folks on all sides of them: Two-Two Boys, Gangster Two Six (an extremely serious and violent organization), Almighty Ambrose, Gangster Disciples, etc. Kids were getting shot left and right, hardcore gang activity, not Westside Story.

[Ivan]

There's a ton of pics of Paulie from his 12th Street Players days floating around on the internet. This is just one of many (apparently that hand sign is a fist with the pinky and ring fingers extended to resemble the Playboy Magazine logo). Looks to be from about 1990 or so. No idea who is scanning and circulating these.

[PolackTony]

There's a ton of pics of Paulie from his 12th Street Players days floating around on the internet. This is just one of many (apparently that hand sign is a fist with the pinky and ring fingers extended to resemble the Playboy Magazine logo). Looks to be from about 1990 or so. No idea who is scanning and circulating these.

While off the top of my head I don’t recall the exact year, that photo is from much more recently than 1990. Paulie still reps ATSPN, he didn’t really ever stop being a Player, he just aged out to the point where he was no longer actively gangbanging. Street gangs have parties and get togethers all the time and old heads like Paulie will go and hang out and represent (and members much older than Paulie will go to social functions like that as well). If Paulie is actually made today, I’d imagine that he stopped going to events like this but still of course knows and hangs out with guys from the Players.

Photos of Paulie with other Players back in the 80s when he was actively gangbanging were given to Jinx, a longtime documentarian of Chicago street gang culture, by old heads from the Players. People on the internet of course ripped them off and circulated them.

[Ivan]

Wow, really? He looks super young in it, figured he was like 20. I'm bad at guessing ages though. Thanks for all the info. That's wild about the pics. I half suspected Paulie was circulating them himself because he's "fucking proud of it" haha.

What do Paulie's old gangbanger pals think of him making it into the Outfit, I wonder? They proud?

[PolackTony]

Wow, really? He looks super young in it, figured he was like 20. I'm bad at guessing ages though. Thanks for all the info. That's wild about the pics. I half suspected Paulie was circulating them himself because he's "fucking proud of it" haha.

Everyone knows Paulie is a Player and he is very much “fucking proud” of it. Players have been around since the ‘70s, like I said, they have old heads a lot older than Paulie (and were a successor to an older Italian gang in Cicero that went back to the 50s, the Arch Dukes). For guys who came up when, where, and how Paulie did, the outfit was their dream, this is the social circle that idolizes the mob of course and aspires to one day be affiliated with them (a made guy of Italian, an associate of non-Ital).

Here’s some photos of Paulie in the mid to late ‘80s. In the second one, he’s on the left wearing his Nation sweater with “Paul” in Old English letters (photos courtesy of James “Jinx” O’Connor):





These sweaters are memorabilia today but for decades dudes in Chicago killed and died over them; like warriors taking scalps, guys would pose with their collections of rival organizations’ sweaters taken at gun point or worse. You were supposed to die before surrendering your sweater — as we said back in the day, “death before dishonor” (though we didn’t use sweaters in my era, as police pressure made it too hot):

[PolackTony]

Also notice the street sign in the background for Roosevelt Rd, the original name of which was 12th St (as Cermak Rd was originally 22nd St). The Players started at Roosevelt and Austin, which was a hub of outfit-related activity for decades.

[Tonyd621]

Sounds like he never really grew up. In the sense he never really matured as a criminal. His demeanor is the same now as it was when he was probably 18, 19 yrs in the yang.
I know nothing about Chicago gangs. I only remember when they were calling chicago chi-raq a while ago in news reports. It seems there is alot of cartel activity operating out of Chicago too-from the flores Brothers and I read recently about another smaller cartel group who a member drowned saving his wife in Mexico but it was "suspicious." My point is it seems chicago is home base for alot of crime activity. I am baffled by all the gangs you can list off the top of your head. Why is there is so many separate/different gangs?

[Ivan]

Fascinating stuff, Tony. Thanks for posting.

Who the hell did the embroidery for all those sweaters? lol