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Does anyone know how many made guys were in Nicky Santora's crew when they were busted back in 2013? Santora was the official captain and had two acting captains under him, but there appears to have only been one soldier under them.
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Nicky Santoro was the captain. Also in the bust were soldiers Ernest Aiello, Vito Badamo, and Anthony Santoro. The first two had served as acting captain of the crew at one point or another. I imagine there were other crew members but they weren't included in that case. No idea how many.
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I don’t believe Aiello was a soldier in Santoro’s crew. I think he was the acting capo of a Bronx- based crew.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:48 amNicky Santoro was the captain. Also in the bust were soldiers Ernest Aiello, Vito Badamo, and Anthony Santoro. The first two had served as acting captain of the crew at one point or another. I imagine there were other crew members but they weren't included in that case. No idea how many.
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You may be right but then it begs the question why the government chart put out in that case showed Aiello has directly subordinate to Santoro.slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:03 amI don’t believe Aiello was a soldier in Santoro’s crew. I think he was the acting capo of a Bronx- based crew.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:48 amNicky Santoro was the captain. Also in the bust were soldiers Ernest Aiello, Vito Badamo, and Anthony Santoro. The first two had served as acting captain of the crew at one point or another. I imagine there were other crew members but they weren't included in that case. No idea how many.
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I remember reading that Nicky Santoro was ID’d as the underboss around that time. So I think Aiello reported to Santoro because of his rank as UB.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:26 pmYou may be right but then it begs the question why the government chart put out in that case showed Aiello has directly subordinate to Santoro.slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:03 amI don’t believe Aiello was a soldier in Santoro’s crew. I think he was the acting capo of a Bronx- based crew.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:48 amNicky Santoro was the captain. Also in the bust were soldiers Ernest Aiello, Vito Badamo, and Anthony Santoro. The first two had served as acting captain of the crew at one point or another. I imagine there were other crew members but they weren't included in that case. No idea how many.
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Santoro was ID'd as the Acting UnderBoss when he was indicted in 2007 but he no longer held that rank when he was indicted in 2013.
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The Bonanno administration seemed like a blur around 2007-2012. If Santoro was acting underboss, who was the official underboss?Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:48 pm Santoro was ID'd as the Acting UnderBoss when he was indicted in 2007 but he no longer held that rank when he was indicted in 2013.
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It was vacant after Vitale flipped. Joe Cammarano Sr, Mancuso and Santoro all served as Acting UnderBoss in the years following. After Santoro was imprisoned different panels were put in place to serve that role.
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What are each family's most lucrative rackets today? As in, which rackets do each particular family specialize in?
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Anyone ever heard of Russell Shorto or the Johnstown, PA mob? They were part of the Pittsburgh family, and I'm curious to know who Shorto's brother-in-law "Joe" is. He must have been a made guy who ran that area for Pittsburgh, but I can't find his last name anywhere.
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How murders stopped in 90s?Im remembering that reading guys getting killed and colombo's fighting each other in 90s,but suddenly murders stopped in 2000s,how is this happen?Did top guys agreed upon this together or they just think if they kill they get caught?
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They had agreed to a moratorium on murders that lasted roughly from the end of the Third Colombo War until the murder of Genovese acting capo Ralph Coppola in 1998.cevreman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:50 pm How murders stopped in 90s?Im remembering that reading guys getting killed and colombo's fighting each other in 90s,but suddenly murders stopped in 2000s,how is this happen?Did top guys agreed upon this together or they just think if they kill they get caught?
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Because the killers get caught right?So we can say old mafia murders end with colombo war?Is there any information about the made guys reacting to this agreement?eboli wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:59 pmThey had agreed to a moratorium on murders that lasted roughly from the end of the Third Colombo War until the murder of Genovese acting capo Ralph Coppola in 1998.cevreman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:50 pm How murders stopped in 90s?Im remembering that reading guys getting killed and colombo's fighting each other in 90s,but suddenly murders stopped in 2000s,how is this happen?Did top guys agreed upon this together or they just think if they kill they get caught?
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If I remember correctly, Capeci wrote about it in detail, either for the NYDN or for Gangland. Here's one of aritcle from October 1998 in which he mentions the ban.cevreman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:02 pmBecause the killers get caught right?So we can say old mafia murders end with colombo war?Is there any information about the made guys reacting to this agreement?eboli wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:59 pmThey had agreed to a moratorium on murders that lasted roughly from the end of the Third Colombo War until the murder of Genovese acting capo Ralph Coppola in 1998.cevreman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:50 pm How murders stopped in 90s?Im remembering that reading guys getting killed and colombo's fighting each other in 90s,but suddenly murders stopped in 2000s,how is this happen?Did top guys agreed upon this together or they just think if they kill they get caught?
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Thanks eboli that will help..