John Pennisi Sighting / Sit Down News

[newera_212]

Doubling back to the latest Pennisi video topic - if what Madonna is alleged to have done to Spinelli is true...that is hilarious. Funny as hell. Basically given an 'order' to induct Spinelli and hit him off with $1MM - instead he tells him to go punch a clock and keeps the money for himself lmao. That's great. I mean what could you expect? lol

Also the way Amuso decided to cut up that money from Avellino, frankly, sounded very very generous. Even not factoring in the amount he was trying to get to Spinelli, the fact he was going to do a split that big with the guys on the street makes him sound a lot less greedy than he was made out to be during the Casso era. But I also understand he's locked up, his wife has passed, probably wont' be around much longer himself, and he may not *need* $4MM.

Him and Spinelli must have been like Frick and Frack in the can

[Browniety86]

Matthew Madonna is a legend...I just wonder what he was worth at the height of his dope dealin days...was he moving heroin under the Lucchese flag or was it an independent operation with his brother? I know they were quick to make him after he got off parole when he came home...

[newera_212]

Matthew Madonna is a legend...I just wonder what he was worth at the height of his dope dealin days...was he moving heroin under the Lucchese flag or was it an independent operation with his brother? I know they were quick to make him after he got off parole when he came home...

I always just assumed he was a 'long time' East Harlem guy who was around the Luccheses his whole life, and going to prison for 30+ kept him from getting straightened out until he was much older (and free). But that's just what I thought - now I don't know if any of that is true. Don't even know if he's even an East Harlem guy like that - and whether or not he was - he could have been around anybody when he was younger. There's not a lot of info out there on him and even less on his elusive brother. I think Pennisi said in that last video, Madonna got close with Amuso and brought into the Lucchese fold in prison, which is kind of crazy. Throws what I assumed about him right out the window

[Little_Al1991]

Pennisi has been one of the only ones, or maybe even the only one out there at all, who I've never once ever said "that doesn't sound right" or "that sounds like bullshit" in response to either a big story he's told, or a little passing anecdote. Pretty much nothing with him has seemed far fetched. With that said, the story about DeSantis being the intended recipient of a shipment of Cocaine in the early 90s that had a street value totaling an 8 figure sum... that was the first time I said to myself "wait...what?"

I'm not sure of DeSantis' age but I think he was a pretty young guy around 91. Not like Lucchese "Class of 91" young where they inducted some guys in their mid 20s - but he was still a pretty young guy and an up-and-comer. He'd participated in at least 1 hit by then and was by all accounts the real deal and not a bum or someone who "didn't deserve" to be made. But, I think it's more probable and likely that DeSantis threw in money on a kilo (or two, three, etc.) that was a part of the much, much larger shipment.

Saying that was "his" drug shipment sounds crazy, unless he was/is one of the biggest Cocaine importers of all time in the NYC area and just happened to never have taken a drug charge in his life.

Before Jimmy Calandra got caught up in the Youtube drama nonsense and was just putting out stories and tales...before they were blatant tall tales...he mentioned that as a kid, DeSantis was around him (and even later married into his family; DeSantis' brother or something like that is an in-law of Calandra). He said DeSantis was a good dude and was always a big money guy, was involved with a lot of stuff to make money, even purchasing a tractor trailer filled with baseball cards in hopes to flip them for profit during the 90s card craze, but he never mentioned drugs (that could be out of respect / protection) and never mentioned that DeSantis could float a multi million dollar coke shipment.

IDK - maybe just hasty wording on Pennisi's part. Not saying he's bullshitting but that was the one thing ever Pennisi has said that made me say "no fucking way." Luccheses have always had a lot of drug guys, even when they were in disarray in the 90s there were guys who were just drug guys. There was an acting boss (maybe 2 acting bosses, not sure when DeFede flipped), a Capo, and an Underboss who all flipped that knew DeSantis. The guy who he was under at one point flipped for christ's sake. You'd think if DeSantis was one of the drug guys, especially on that large of a scale, we would have heard about it somehow.

Casso also invested into that cocaine shipment, I read that from court documents which mention it very very briefly

[Little_Al1991]

Ridiculous decision from Madonna which is quite surprising, considering the fact that he did more than 30 years in prison and the fact that he was given one million.
He caused his own downfall and the Lucchese’s are right not to give him any commissary and take his money on the street

[bluehouse]

So this would mean that matty is shelved?

[SonnyBlackstein]

So this would mean that matty is shelved?

Yes

[SonnyBlackstein]

Him and Spinelli must have been like Frick and Frack in the can

BWAHAHAHHAHA

[CabriniGreen]

I saw one recently that wasn't exactly far fetched.... just a theory I hadn't heard or considered before.

Pennisi did one on Badalamenti asking Ndrangheta for help in the war vs the Corleonesi.

He had Badalamenti trying to get Buscetta to help him by going to Brazil. When Buscetta refuses, Pennisi said Buscetta suspected BADALAMENTI, not the Corleonesi of hitting his SONS, as an enticement to get into the war.

At first I was like, " Da fuck is Pennissi talking about"...
But his wording..." He thought Badalamenti might have pulled a Machiavellian move on him..". Honestly I thought of Gommorah, Ciro, Enzo, and Genny and I really started to think hard about it.

Is it possible Badalamenti hit Buscettas sons, hoping he would think Riina did it and go all out vs the Corleone guys? I mean, if he could do that, why not target an actual enemy? Any thoughts?

Who was DeSantis alleged coke supplier? Broker? Mexicans? Colombians? Dominicans? There's a difference between buying wholesale in NY, and financing the incoming shipment. Does DeSantis even control import/ Export companies? Interest in Trucking?

Actually, the Luchesse Zips like LaPorta and LoDuca had huge cocaine connections, maybe he was plugged that way?

[nizarsoccer]

In his latest video on Johny Sideburns - I think he implied Sideburns is/was a CI? Could he be the 2nd wired Lucchese person from the 2017 time period...?

[NorthBuffalo]

So this would mean that matty is shelved?

Yes

It's amazing a guy like that wouldn't flip. He's done nearly 3/4 of his life in a prison cell - I'm surprised they would shelve him for fear that he refuses to end his life there.

[Teflon Dom]

So this would mean that matty is shelved?

Yes

It's amazing a guy like that wouldn't flip. He's done nearly 3/4 of his life in a prison cell - I'm surprised they would shelve him for fear that he refuses to end his life there.

Not really amazing. He is a man's man. Not Like Lil Pennisi, rat at the first sign of trouble lol

[SonnyBlackstein]

It's amazing a guy like that wouldn't flip. He's done nearly 3/4 of his life in a prison cell - I'm surprised they would shelve him for fear that he refuses to end his life there.

Thought the same thing. Dangerous move. Guy could take down a lot of people. You'd think showing the guy a little loyalty when he's off to die in jail would be worth your while. Guy's on the outside, shelve or even trunk, but you're pushing the guy into a corner when he's got life and you take away his last vestige of respect.

I understand its Vics call and he's not going anywhere, but you'd think for the good of the family...

[Cheech]

I have a hard time listening to Pennissi. The monotone story telling is so hard to listen to. Plus the high horse thing. He won every sit down. Every other mobster was clueless. Blah blah blah.

[johnny_scootch]

So this would mean that matty is shelved?

Yes

It's amazing a guy like that wouldn't flip. He's done nearly 3/4 of his life in a prison cell - I'm surprised they would shelve him for fear that he refuses to end his life there.

Was it explicitly said he was shelved? Or is this an assumption because of the circumstances?