Official boss of the same family more than once?

[Eld]

Was Franzese the underboss in the 1960s? I'd have to comb through the info, but I think it went Magliocco->Misuraca->Mineo. I can't remember who was there after Mineo and before Abbatemarco, if anyone.

If I remember right Vincent Aloi was the acting underboss/underboss during 1971-74, at least for a period during those years.

[MichaelGiovanni]

Joe C might say Michael Mancuso was the boss twice

[B.]

Joe C might say Michael Mancuso was the boss twice

Hahaha. Galante would have said the same about Rastelli, but he wasn't available to comment.

What I found amazing in the Massino testimony was where he said he wanted both Joe Cammarano Jr. and Michael Mancuso to be on the ruling panel in 2005. So even Massino saw them as potential leaders.

Mancuso wasn't his choice, he was Basciano's, but he was fine with Mancuso being on the panel while he didn't think Basciano's other choice Tony Rabito was capable. Massino's first choice for the panel was Jerry Asaro.

[Angelo Santino]

Mineo became underboss at the same time that Colombo became the boss in 1964. When the captains were asked to poll their crews they were asked what they thought of both Colombo as boss and Mineo as under. Mineo was also still underboss at the time that Colombo was shot but I'm not sure if he was still in the position from then until Abbatemarco got it or if the position was vacant. I don't know where the Franzese as underboss in the 60s thing comes from. Michael Franzese has said it I think but I don't know whether he was the original source for that. Either way, it looks like it was wrong and Mineo was the underboss for Colombo's entire reign. Strikes me as sort of like the same misinformation that would incorrectly identify Galante as Bonanno's underboss instead of Garofalo and Morales

So John Franzese wasn't underboss in the 60's, ok, thanks. Didn't mean to parrot a falsehood.

[chin_gigante]

It's all good, no harm no foul

[B.]

Speak for yourself, Chin. That kind of mistake at the very least should result in Christie being demoted as mod and, if I was Soliai, I might give him a little break from the board if you know what I mean.

[chin_gigante]

One of us has to be the good cop, B.

[Frank]

Mineo became underboss at the same time that Colombo became the boss in 1964. When the captains were asked to poll their crews they were asked what they thought of both Colombo as boss and Mineo as under. Mineo was also still underboss at the time that Colombo was shot but I'm not sure if he was still in the position from then until Abbatemarco got it or if the position was vacant. I don't know where the Franzese as underboss in the 60s thing comes from. Michael Franzese has said it I think but I don't know whether he was the original source for that. Either way, it looks like it was wrong and Mineo was the underboss for Colombo's entire reign. Strikes me as sort of like the same misinformation that would incorrectly identify Galante as Bonanno's underboss instead of Garofalo and Morales

So John Franzese wasn't underboss in the 60's, ok, thanks. Didn't mean to parrot a falsehood.

It was stated somewhere that Sonny was underboss in the 60s, but that was corrected when info about Mineo was found. So you were just using outdated info.

[Frank]

Did Lima come back as SF boss? Then Lanza could also been boss twice??