Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm
Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers.
Pogo
I thought it was entertaining fiction.
Even more entertaining were the posters here and there who would refer to it as history until they were told to look at the disclaimer in the front of the book.
B. wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:19 pm
I'd much rather see a purely fictional story, ala the Sopranos and the Godfather. There are far more misses when they try to go for non-fiction or historical fiction with real mafia figures.
War of the Godfathers is probably the most egregious example of this I can think of.
Anyway, if by "mafia's first family" they mean "first" in a chronological sense, then this is probably about the family of Don Giuseppe Battista Balsamo (the first godfather).
Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers.
Pogo
I think we've talked about this, but a lot of our hatred for it comes from the fact that bookstores always had it in the "True Crime" section. That and even for fiction it did a weird blend of historically accurate, and madeup shit that sounded historically accurate. So a lot of people thought it was non fiction And of course it's written by Roemer. Who created a character who is him just to blow himself. Figuratively.
And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am
And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.
In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am
And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.
In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
My favorite was him trying to say his work in Arizona against Bonanno was him taking it to the mafia by going after a commission member. For the record, a retired banished commission member. He did oddly never mention the FBI agent who was trying to start a mob war by having people plant bombs at old wiseguy places in Aruzona. Weird. Roemer was working there then.
Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:41 pm
Man I must be the only one on the forums who really enjoyed War of the Godfathers.
Pogo
I thought it was entertaining fiction.
Even more entertaining were the posters here and there who would refer to it as history until they were told to look at the disclaimer in the front of the book.
I've seen the fictional events in it cited as real in an ostensibly serious true crime book, believe it or not. It was one of those Time/Life-style "story of the American mob" generic history thingies.
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am
And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.
In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
As I recall, DeStefano would tell Roemer that the coffee had a unique flavor because he imported special coffee beans from Italy lol.
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Adam wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:47 am
And maybe it's early and I'm in a bad mood but Roemer is awful. If there had been a Chicago mob war I would bet everything I own that Roemer would give his informants information to kill the opposition. And the shit he took credit for and claimed?....Jesus Christ.
Agreed. He came off as a pompous, self-righteous arrogant asshole. Informants "have seen the light and decided to join the right side" and "finally convincing Mexico to deport a retired Giancana" was a cause for celebration. His infatuation with Accardo bordered on the erotic.
In The Enforcer he thought he was breaking balls by showing up at Chicago guy's houses, Mad Sam (?) always welcomed him and served him coffee, come to find out later Sam was pissing in it. Atta boy, Sam!
My favorite was him trying to say his work in Arizona against Bonanno was him taking it to the mafia by going after a commission member. For the record, a retired banished commission member. He did oddly never mention the FBI agent who was trying to start a mob war by having people plant bombs at old wiseguy places in Aruzona. Weird. Roemer was working there then.
In fairness Bonanno wasn't really retired. In fact the FBI had Bonanno and his Arizona Crew as their own family during a time.
I still love WOTG. I thought it was a really fun read.
Pogo
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The way I read the article, this will be about the early origins of OC. I'm still waiting for the Petrosino movie with DiCaprio.
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