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NYNighthawk wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:19 pm I can only imagine how hard it must be for him to find a good Italian Restaurant to eat in. He had a great place called Casablanca in Queens before everything went south in his life. he's just lucky he is not doing life like the Commission bosses did.
Good!.... maybe he’ll blow 100 lbs off his fat ass! Lol
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Great video. Didn't know Consiglieri's required to be voted on. Thanks for sharing
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cosanostra101 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:44 am Great video. Didn't know Consiglieri's required to be voted on. Thanks for sharing
Thanks! I am currently working on subtitles for part 1.
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Rocco wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:37 am Massino lives in NC by one of his daughters from what I have heard. I believe his wife still lives in that house in Howard Beach.
Are he and his wife divorced? I was just going to ask if he has been located or has surfaced anywhere?
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i didnt understand if galante was the boss or acting for rastelli
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Massino gets straightened out and put with Nicky Glasses (Underboss) for 6 months then switched to Carmine Galante ("Boss") for 6 months. Then they switch him to Philly Lucky for 6 months. Does anyone know who he went with after that??
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scagghiuni wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:34 am i didnt understand if galante was the boss or acting for rastelli
To me it looks like Galante was acting and Rasterelli was official.
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Not quite the same, but almost like the current Bonanno situation.
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I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
Believe Rastelli ordered to enforce control
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
I think probably a combo of both!.... and probably other issues we are unfamiliar with
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maxiestern11 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:05 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
I think probably a combo of both!.... and probably other issues we are unfamiliar with
That picture of Galante on the ground with the cigar still in his mouth is priceless. :lol:
His two Sicilian bodyguards led him to the slaughter. I believe it was the American LCN that ordered the hit, not the Sicilians. Am I correct?
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Confederate wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:46 pm
maxiestern11 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:05 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
I think probably a combo of both!.... and probably other issues we are unfamiliar with
That picture of Galante on the ground with the cigar still in his mouth is priceless. :lol:
His two Sicilian bodyguards led him to the slaughter. I believe it was the American LCN that ordered the hit, not the Sicilians. Am I correct?
Or was it both? Did the Sicilians have to agree to kill Galante?
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Confederate wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:54 pm
Confederate wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:46 pm
maxiestern11 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:05 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
I think probably a combo of both!.... and probably other issues we are unfamiliar with
That picture of Galante on the ground with the cigar still in his mouth is priceless. :lol:
His two Sicilian bodyguards led him to the slaughter. I believe it was the American LCN that ordered the hit, not the Sicilians. Am I correct?
Or was it both? Did the Sicilians have to agree to kill Galante?
The Sicilians obviously went along with it, and probably benefitted from his death. I imagine he was draining them financially pretty good from junk sales, etc.
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But it would always be the NYC commission that voted his death; Gambino, Genovese, Colombo, etc.... even his Bonanno hierarchy would have to approve or there’d be a war afterwards..... but there was NO war! Which only confirms that it was a sanctioned hit!
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Lilo was a hellava tough guy, aggressive, strong skipper, etc., but bad boss because he was very feared and hated by the rank and file. Plus the other families didn’t go for him because of his heavy handed style.

He thought the world owed him a living after doing his 20 year bit...... truth is lots of guys do 20 yr bits and better. Guys figured, who the fuck is this guy to push his weight around?
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Very dangerous, VERY capable guy. But it just goes to show, NOBODY is bulletproof!
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Something to remember Confederate, that ONLY American CN runs America, they way ONLY Italian born Mafiosi rule Italy/Sicily - American wiseguys have NO say overthere, and Zips have NO say over here!.....

The only “say” and pull they have is when they “act” on behalf of their American crew, and that’s at the FULL discretion of their American “Boss” of the family. A good example is Giovanni (John) Gambino and his brothers. He was a skipper (and higher) at one point in the Gambino Family. But he still serves at the pleasure of the Boss or acting boss or “panel” of that family.

He CANNOT/DOES NOT do as he pleases or calls the shots without higher approval. Just like any other member, American or not!
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I hope I’ve answered your question properly and didn’t go off track here. Sorry if I did
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:26 pm I’m still confused by the Galante stuff. Was he hit because he illegitimately appointed himself boss? Or because he was getting too big for his britches when it came to the heroin?
The way I understand it Galante got out of prison and was pissed off about a lot of things. He was angry he spent 12 years in the can. He was angry he was set up. He was angry how his former boss was forced to retire. He was angry he was not made boss, because as Bonanno's underboss he felt entitled to the title. He was angry he wasn't dominating the drug trade as he wanted to. He was angry he wasn't getting the respect he felt he deserved. So he decided to go all in. The moment he began causing more trouble than he was worth, he was killed. The way I see it he was a self-appointed street boss, who had enough support from Bonanno members to exercise control over the family's operations, while Rastelli was away and they sort of went along with it for a time. Since the internal war was still fresh in everybody's mind and Galante was doing not that bad of a job in running the family's day-to-day operations.
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