Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

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Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

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Doobeez wrote:Thought Attanasio was in on the Bonventre murder, and was then upped to captain of that crew? Or was that when he was made acting ub, or under in name?

Pogo is sharp as a tack on this stuff, so I'm not doubting his memory, but mine lol

You are correct but it was a different crew. The Bonventre-Attanasio Crew broke off from the Zaffarano Crew. The Knickerbocker Crew was a different Crew.


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Pogo The Clown wrote:
Doobeez wrote:Thought Attanasio was in on the Bonventre murder, and was then upped to captain of that crew? Or was that when he was made acting ub, or under in name?

Pogo is sharp as a tack on this stuff, so I'm not doubting his memory, but mine lol

You are correct but it was a different crew. The Bonventre-Attanasio Crew broke off from the Zaffarano Crew. The Knickerbocker Crew was a different Crew.


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I believe the Bonventre crew evolved from the Frank Lupo crew, actually. Bonventre and Lupo were two of the rare South Brooklyn based Bonannos, though Bonventre of course spent a lot of his time hanging out in the Bushwick / Ridgewood area. Lupo had been close to former consigliere Joseph DeFilippi, who I believe lived in South Brooklyn as well, so seems there could be continuity there.
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Yeah Bonventre took over for Lupo. JD has Bonventre and Attanasio as being with the Zaffarano Crew in the late 70s. So it looks like the Lupo Crew, if they did not break off, took over part of the Zaffarano Crew.


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Great info guys, and thanks for clearing things up. That Zaffarano crew was a freaking powerhouse.
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JeremyTheJew wrote:
JeremyTheJew wrote:No. Actually probaly before cesar buccelato would have been probably?

Same buccelato clan as in detroit and as Jimmyb

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*before cesar was capo, was bucellato capo of knickerbocker.

That is what i was trying to say. A lot od my posts i do at work hence the bad spelling n errors

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Yes, same family. If you look at the family chart in my book, you'll see the five Buccellato brothers at the top (Giuseppe, Giovanni, Salvatore, Pietro, and Vincenzo). Giuseppe's grandson was the Joe Buccellato in Bonanno org. He was a captain but fled to Italy to avoid grand jury investigation. So when he returned he was demoted to soldier.
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So was he ever in admin position like we were previously saying? Thats interesting about him being demoted to get out of the grans jury... I would have thought they would have given his spot back

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JeremyTheJew wrote:So was he ever in admin position like we were previously saying? Thats interesting about him being demoted to get out of the grans jury... I would have thought they would have given his spot back

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I suspect Joe Buccellato was one of the main liaisons between Brooklyn and CDG. We always hear about Galante, but Joe Buccellato traveled back and forth more often. When JB reached out to CDG for help in the Bananas War, I would think Joe Buccellato was one of the guys communicated with the Sicilians. Peter Magaddino would have reached out to his brother Gaspare, but Ronsisvalle specifically testified that it was "the Buccellatos" who JB worked with. And don't forget Giovanni Bonventre was in CDG at the time. He was arrested, along with Nino Buccellato in 1971. So imo there were guys other than (or in addition to) Galante operating the bridge between NY and Sicily.
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jimmyb wrote:
JeremyTheJew wrote:So was he ever in admin position like we were previously saying? Thats interesting about him being demoted to get out of the grans jury... I would have thought they would have given his spot back

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I suspect Joe Buccellato was one of the main liaisons between Brooklyn and CDG. We always hear about Galante, but Joe Buccellato traveled back and forth more often. When JB reached out to CDG for help in the Bananas War, I would think Joe Buccellato was one of the guys communicated with the Sicilians. Peter Magaddino would have reached out to his brother Gaspare, but Ronsisvalle specifically testified that it was "the Buccellatos" who JB worked with. And don't forget Giovanni Bonventre was in CDG at the time. He was arrested, along with Nino Buccellato in 1971. So imo there were guys other than (or in addition to) Galante operating the bridge between NY and Sicily.
There's no evidence I've come across that Galante had any direct contact with Sicily after his release from prison. Seems likely that he sent messages and communicated overseas, but I think he gets too much credit for "recruiting the zips" and establishing those ties during that period. Seems more likely that he tapped into a channel that already existed, which naturally continued to exist after his death.
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Before he went away, would it be fair to say that Galante was more involved in interests up north as opposed to across the pond?
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Before he went away when the controni/violi were running things i was under thr inpression that they were doing more "normal" lcn activity like extortions, etc. Rather then when the ruzzutos took over and they became a major drug hub.

Was canada always a big drug trafficking place? I never really thought about hiw galante would go up there so maybe they wrrew always into the drugs... I just thought the rizzutos made it what it is

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Montreal was the heart of a massive drug trafficking network since at least the 1950s. The Cotronis had a significant international presence through this.

Galante, as a major heroin trafficker, no doubt was an influential part of this network. It's no coincidence that he was the original Montreal captain.
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B. wrote:It's no coincidence that he was the original Montreal captain.

This really puts into perspective not only the Bonanno's long standing ties up there, but the significance of their breakaway several years ago.

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There was no breakaway.
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toto wrote:There was no breakaway.

Ok...how about when the ties were severed.
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Re: Bonanno family chart circa 91 question

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Doobeez wrote:
toto wrote:There was no breakaway.

Ok...how about when the ties were severed.

Better still, what would be the correct description for it? thanks.
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