Mike hippie zanfardino and heroin

[Pogo The Clown]

Sixty percent of the 5 families is thousands of people. If that many are using drugs we would know about it. We would be seeing guys busted for drugs left and right and dozens dropping from ODs every year. A silly statement.


Pogo

[Aces]

- but in prison, all you can get is heroin

Untrue, if you have money you can get almost anything you want in most prisons and if you’re strung out on dope in prison the Italians and their group are going to see you as a weak link, you’re going to be shunned.

60% is a laughable number.

Johnny_scotch is 100% right. They would be shunned immediately. The Italians would not want to be associated with them.

[Southshore88]

Sixty percent of the 5 families is thousands of people. If that many are using drugs we would know about it. We would be seeing guys busted for drugs left and right and dozens dropping from ODs every year. A silly statement.


Pogo

Is it?

That would mean each of the 5 families would average 300+ members? (300*5 =1,500…1,500*60%=900 for reference)

Also - unrelated to Pogo’s post but I’m curious when everyone last saw a big heroin case in general? I’m from Mass and at least 80% of major opioid related drug busts are fentanyl related (fake 30mg pills to fentanyl powder). Honestly don’t know the last time I saw a drug bust related to heroin that wasn’t also cut with fentanyl.

[Pogo The Clown]

I was including associates in my count. If we are only counting made members I’d say the percentage of drug users would be even lower overall.


Pogo

[moneyman]

Majority would probably party if given the opportunity for sure.. but that’s way different than a hard core heroin user

[JeremyTheJew]

For the record Im pretty sure he was saying 60% of the wiseguys IN PRISON are on junk. And he was specifically saying heroin aka babania. And he also said they all do it on the sneak also....

60% obviously is crazy and absurd. Stupid to even say.... But... For him to be able to say a number so high must have to be a good amount of guys right??? Shit - even let's just say.... There's what , 500 wiseguys locked up across the US?? (Pure guess) 60% of that is around 300 .... So let's take half of that with grain of salt - leaves u with maybe 150 wiseguys on dope .... Now that.... In 2025.... I can possibly believe

Still hard to believe it's HEROIN
Rather then say saboxone - a prison opiate drug very popular

[JeremyTheJew]

Oh and what are we thinking about Mikey Z aka Hippie being on heroin ??? That's a pretty big claim.... And he's obviously now leading one of the strongest crews.... I'm sure there not gonna be to happy about that.

Robert Rosso seems the type that could end up ODed purposely or not ... Sad life cycle some of the guys get in.... Heroin is a bad bad addiction....

[johnny_scootch]

There's what , 500 wiseguys locked up across the US??

There aren’t even 150 wiseguys in prison.

Oh and what are we thinking about Mikey Z aka Hippie being on heroin ??? That's a pretty big claim

Hard to believe the captain of one of the most storied crews in mafia history is a junkie. Even harder to believe guys like Bellomo & Muscarella would ever let that slide, it’s a major liability.

[Pmac2]

I get 15yr in prison I'm getting high everyday. who gives a fuck. I don't know why people hold them to a high standard there human criminals like all the rest they just belong to family. like a blood belongs to a set or Latin king

[NorthBuffalo]

I get 15yr in prison I'm getting high everyday. who gives a fuck. I don't know why people hold them to a high standard there human criminals like all the rest they just belong to family. like a blood belongs to a set or Latin king

Spot on.

[Aces]

I can name about 15 guys that got released in the past 5 years and none of them did H in prison. Rosso is a bull shit artist and a life time drug addict. He is also a total wash woman and loves to gossip.

[bluehouse]

Is heroin even a thing now.I thought fentanyl completely took over the downer market

[B.]

100% of them are on dope. Not a single guy is clean.

[JeremyTheJew]

Fent is heroin and heroin is fentanyl - u can't even get heroin anymore - it's all fentanyl. The fiends wouldn't buy dope they only want the fetty wop.

Ya major liability - and when ur in prison and doing drugs - it looked at even more like scum of the earth.

I know few ppl who use on the street but jn prison don't touch it bc of the stigma... So ya I'm having hard time believing this

[Mvguy818]

I pretty sure the guy said 60% of the mob guys in his unit not the mob in general