The Outfit vs Desi Arnaz

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Re: The Outfit vs Desi Arnaz

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Patrickgold wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:23 pm
NorthBuffalo wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:35 pm
PolackTony wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:43 pm I'm very much aware of who Dr Wayne Johnson, PhD is. And when a guy says retarded shit like the stuff above, claims about the Irish widow of a long-dead boss "vetoing" hits approved by the Chicago Family admin, Chicago not being "the mafia", etc., I don't care what experience he has or how many letters he puts after his name. It doesn't make such risible claims any less invalid. And the CCC has always been rife with poorly sourced info and BS when it comes to the formal organization in Chicago, as opposed to criminal activities and such.
I like your posts but its strange judging a guy off two quotes given his body of work and perhaps its worth clarifying with him. He said in the same quote about the mafia that the Outfit operated as a Southern Italian Criminal organization. On the Mae Capone thing, Johnson clearly wasn't alive or a small child when these events went down - he's likely retelling a story he heard, not passing this off as something concrete. It was picked up loosely by the author perhaps. Either way, he has more insight than any of us would and I'm gonna give him the benefit of my doubt personally.

We may string together details on the internet but this guy spent countless hours in court testifying against these guys not to mention literal weeks sitting in union halls during all these internal investigations. I don't think the CCC was ever as informed as the Feds were but they did work together and share information.
Wayne Johnson mostly investigated the Jewish crew under Lenny Patrick when he was CPD. Not taking that away from him but CPD rarely had many serious investigations of the Outfit for many reasons including getting paid off. I don’t really think he is very knowledgeable of the LCN traditions and customs. He is supposedly publishing a book on his investigation of Lenny Patrick’s crew.

As far of credibility, he did get caught in a lie when he said he personally ripped a cop killer from the car window while on duty and it came back that it was another cop that did it. Not a big deal but a lot of blowhards out there which could explain his PhD thing.

North Buffalo, if you are in contact with him, then ask him when his book is released.
Johnson was the Chief Investigator in the Emerald Casino debacle. He set up the surveillance of Stephens meeting Boscarino, DiFronzo and the Elmwood Park guys. He was also involved in giving evidence against Spano, Maltese, DiGiullio and the others in the Cicero debacle. He's been around I think you need to look into his background more. I'll def ask him about his book - I was emailing him about a year ago about Arthur Coia and he was quite knowledgeable and still working labor union investigations.
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