I know you said you're basing that off of past and present info but could you explain that? In the bail memo all it said was Polito had DiChiara's number and had been seen meeting with him. Haven't heard anything of Brescio stepping down or being taken down. Capeci also said DiChiara took over his father's crew which is separate of Brescio was it not?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:29 pmJoseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.artichokelove3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:38 pm Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
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Same crewOcSleeper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:59 pmI know you said you're basing that off of past and present info but could you explain that? In the bail memo all it said was Polito had DiChiara's number and had been seen meeting with him. Haven't heard anything of Brescio stepping down or being taken down. Capeci also said DiChiara took over his father's crew which is separate of Brescio was it not?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:29 pmJoseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.artichokelove3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:38 pm Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
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No offense but I don't think you know what you're talking about.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:18 pmSame crewOcSleeper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:59 pmI know you said you're basing that off of past and present info but could you explain that? In the bail memo all it said was Polito had DiChiara's number and had been seen meeting with him. Haven't heard anything of Brescio stepping down or being taken down. Capeci also said DiChiara took over his father's crew which is separate of Brescio was it not?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:29 pmJoseph DChiara is captain. Polito acting captain.artichokelove3 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:38 pm Is he still capo of that manhattan crew or is it confirmed Polito is capo now? Also, how goddamn old was his mom
Bresico was a Captain in good standing, Polito his acting.
DiChiara is now that Capo and Polito is his acting? Makes zero sense.
Barney takes Brescio down and makes Chiara capo, ok. But Chiara keeps Polito as acting? That makes sense to you? And Brescio being taken down? Why?
Nope. Doesn't follow.
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I don't think they are the same crew. I've never seen Brescio identified as a member of the DiChiara crew and the timelines don't really add up to me. Peter Lovaglio identified the main players in DiChiara's crew as Sal Demeo, Frank Demeo, Joseph DiChiara, Robert DeBello and associate Eugene Orefice who was Sal Demeo's driver and right hand man. According to Gambino associate Benny Geritano, Brescio was Steven Arena's captain in around 2011. Waterfront commission identified him as a capo in May 2017.
He also could've been a capo back in 2010 too. viewtopic.php?p=269461#p269461
He also could've been a capo back in 2010 too. viewtopic.php?p=269461#p269461
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I believe Brescio was capo over crew that included Carmine Polito, steve Arena, and Jimmy Rossi. Could be DiChiara crew merged with Brescio crew. But when Polito was first identified as an acting capo in that case, I figured it had to have been for Brescio.
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I agree it's more likely it was absorbed than Brescio coming from the DiChiara crew.
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Who said Brescio is no longer in good standing?SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:17 pmBresico was a Captain in good standing, Polito his acting.
I'm sorry it doesn't make sense.DiChiara is now that Capo and Polito is his acting? Makes zero sense.
Who said Brescio was taken down?Barney takes Brescio down and makes Chiara capo, ok. But Chiara keeps Polito as acting? That makes sense to you? And Brescio being taken down? Why? Nope. Doesn't follow.
I think your original take was most likely correct.
We have the 1994/1995 incidents between Polito and D'Urso. From the court info below, both appear to have been in Gangi's crew at the time (Polito even making a failed attempt at one point to switch to the Malongone crew.)
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-2n ... 35799.html
This above alone shows Polito was affiliated with the Gangi crew at least at some point. And according to D'Urso's testimony, the Gangi crew was later taken over by Peter DiChiara.
viewtopic.php?p=266197&hilit=gangi+dichiara#p266197
While it may be circumstantial, the connection is further strengthened by the recent info in Polito's bail memo.
viewtopic.php?t=12463
Some of the confusion may have stemmed from the big bust in 2001 that got Gangi, Aparo, DiChiara and many others. While some articles labeled Aparo and DiChiara as captains, others (like the one below) specified them as acting captains. It may be tempting to look at the alone and come to the conclusion they are separate crews but you have to take all the info together. Especially considering in court papers they were labeled the "Aparo/DiChiara crew."
https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2001/0 ... mob-sweep/
There is only one other option I can see and it seems far less likely. Brescio's father Lawrence was in Peter DeFeo's crew, if I'm not mistaken. But other than Alexander Morelli reportedly taking over for DeFeo, there's little to nothing about that crew after the 1980s. Then John Brescio pops up around 6 years ago as a captain. Whether it's a case of being the same crew all along, or some kind of merger at some point, those seem more plausible to me than a captain/crew flying under the radar for over 30 years.
I don't necessarily see a conflict with the timeline. As I mentioned above, Gangi was indicted as a captain, and Aparo and DiChiara acting captains, in 2001. Peter DiChiara is later identified in GL News as the street boss/consigliere in 2014, though it wasn't specified how long he had been in that position. That leaves a wide gap in between for Brescio to have taken over, even as far back as 2010/2011.JohnnyS wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:08 am I don't think they are the same crew. I've never seen Brescio identified as a member of the DiChiara crew and the timelines don't really add up to me. Peter Lovaglio identified the main players in DiChiara's crew as Sal Demeo, Frank Demeo, Joseph DiChiara, Robert DeBello and associate Eugene Orefice who was Sal Demeo's driver and right hand man. According to Gambino associate Benny Geritano, Brescio was Steven Arena's captain in around 2011. Waterfront commission identified him as a capo in May 2017.
He also could've been a capo back in 2010 too. viewtopic.php?p=269461#p269461
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We can add Anthony Federici being the Genovese Consigliere as another recent swing and a miss.
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