His hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.Fatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:23 amHe didn't kill many members, and was well liked by most guys from most accounts.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:57 amTo his day it still surprises me that none of the made membersFughedaboutit wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:58 amI bet it still bothers him from everything I have read about the incident.NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:53 am Joey Pungitore has to be haunted every single day of his life thinking about Salvie....but then again he could just chalk it up to LCN if he’s that hardcore and devoted.
under Scarfo did not kill Nicky. The number of members Scarfo killed
would have provided the justification needed to take to NY &
the commission for the green light.
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
And when you really look at it most of the murders were guys getting popped for paying the street tax, killing the guys after Testa got blown up, and Riccobene guys. Scarfo wasn't acting any differently than any other boss at that time would.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:28 amHis hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.Fatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:23 amHe didn't kill many members, and was well liked by most guys from most accounts.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:57 amTo his day it still surprises me that none of the made membersFughedaboutit wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:58 amI bet it still bothers him from everything I have read about the incident.NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:53 am Joey Pungitore has to be haunted every single day of his life thinking about Salvie....but then again he could just chalk it up to LCN if he’s that hardcore and devoted.
under Scarfo did not kill Nicky. The number of members Scarfo killed
would have provided the justification needed to take to NY &
the commission for the green light.
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
I agree it could have ended up badly.
But killing Salvie Testa was too much.
Caramandi, Leonetti, Pungitore all
thought that was a step too far. the
hits up to that point may have been
'justified'. But Salvie was killed on
Scarfo's paranoia. As Phil said, 'If
my uncle could kill Savie,then none
of us one was safe.'
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Why did Scarfo kill Salvie Testa? The ChickenmanFatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 amAnd when you really look at it most of the murders were guys getting popped for paying the street tax, killing the guys after Testa got blown up, and Riccobene guys. Scarfo wasn't acting any differently than any other boss at that time would.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:28 amHis hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.Fatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:23 amHe didn't kill many members, and was well liked by most guys from most accounts.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:57 amTo his day it still surprises me that none of the made membersFughedaboutit wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:58 amI bet it still bothers him from everything I have read about the incident.NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:53 am Joey Pungitore has to be haunted every single day of his life thinking about Salvie....but then again he could just chalk it up to LCN if he’s that hardcore and devoted.
under Scarfo did not kill Nicky. The number of members Scarfo killed
would have provided the justification needed to take to NY &
the commission for the green light.
asked Scarfo to look after Salvie if anything ever
happened to him. Scarfo was like an uncle to Salvie.
Can you come up with a valid reason for Scarfo killing Salvie?
A Wall Street Journal article?
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There’s no valid reason but you have to understand in that world it’s a dog eat dog rat race and Scarfo saw Salvie as legit threat to his thrown.
Then add in the Maria Merlino wedding calling off, the fact that Salvie was the largest earner (people wanted his $ rackets after he was popped), the fact that Salvie was pumping a ton of meth into the streets on the sneak, the fact that he was well liked, etc and u can begin to see all these things added up to his demise.
Then add in the Maria Merlino wedding calling off, the fact that Salvie was the largest earner (people wanted his $ rackets after he was popped), the fact that Salvie was pumping a ton of meth into the streets on the sneak, the fact that he was well liked, etc and u can begin to see all these things added up to his demise.
Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
Testa was a stone killer and got burned when he insulted Merlino, it's not rocket science. Caramandi even said Testa was feeling bad vibes because "he knew what he did was wrong". Merlino was a ruthless fuck himself and it's not hard for me believe he worked Scarfo into killing him, he had Faffy and DelGiorno going to Scarfo to bitch about Testa.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:39 amWhy did Scarfo kill Salvie Testa? The ChickenmanFatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 amAnd when you really look at it most of the murders were guys getting popped for paying the street tax, killing the guys after Testa got blown up, and Riccobene guys. Scarfo wasn't acting any differently than any other boss at that time would.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:28 amHis hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.Fatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:23 amHe didn't kill many members, and was well liked by most guys from most accounts.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:57 amTo his day it still surprises me that none of the made membersFughedaboutit wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:58 amI bet it still bothers him from everything I have read about the incident.NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:53 am Joey Pungitore has to be haunted every single day of his life thinking about Salvie....but then again he could just chalk it up to LCN if he’s that hardcore and devoted.
under Scarfo did not kill Nicky. The number of members Scarfo killed
would have provided the justification needed to take to NY &
the commission for the green light.
asked Scarfo to look after Salvie if anything ever
happened to him. Scarfo was like an uncle to Salvie.
Can you come up with a valid reason for Scarfo killing Salvie?
A Wall Street Journal article?
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New York historically doesn't like giving permission to kill bosses and more often than not side with the sitting boss, so I doubt anything would have happened
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
Fatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 amAnd when you really look at it most of the murders were guys getting popped for paying the street tax, killing the guys after Testa got blown up, and Riccobene guys. Scarfo wasn't acting any differently than any other boss at that time would.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:28 amHis hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.
In fairness Scarfo only ordered about half of that 28 number. The press tends to lump in Phil Testa's hits, those committed by the Riccobene Faction, Bruno's murder, those committed by NY (Caponigro, Salerno, Simone, Sollenas), hits on the sneak, etc and lump them into Scarfos number.
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
True. Salvie Testa may have been a murderous thug, but IMO he was killedPogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:39 amFatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 amAnd when you really look at it most of the murders were guys getting popped for paying the street tax, killing the guys after Testa got blown up, and Riccobene guys. Scarfo wasn't acting any differently than any other boss at that time would.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:28 amHis hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.
In fairness Scarfo only ordered about half of that 28 number. The press tends to lump in Phil Testa's hits, those committed by the Riccobene Faction, Bruno's murder, those committed by NY (Caponigro, Salerno, Simone, Sollenas), hits on the sneak, etc and lump them into Scarfos number.
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He was one of their strongest guys, mafioso to the core. Killed by that rat Grande, smhSILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:26 amTrue. Salvie Testa may have been a murderous thug, but IMO he was killedPogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:39 amFatso wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 amAnd when you really look at it most of the murders were guys getting popped for paying the street tax, killing the guys after Testa got blown up, and Riccobene guys. Scarfo wasn't acting any differently than any other boss at that time would.SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:28 amHis hit list was 28 people. Most of them members/associates.
In fairness Scarfo only ordered about half of that 28 number. The press tends to lump in Phil Testa's hits, those committed by the Riccobene Faction, Bruno's murder, those committed by NY (Caponigro, Salerno, Simone, Sollenas), hits on the sneak, etc and lump them into Scarfos number.
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
Salvie probably shouldn’t have been killed, but there were technically grounds for it to be within the parameters. Also, Nicky approved Sal hit, but it was Chucky Merlino that wanted him dead and fueled the fire for Nicky to approve the hit so to say it was all scarfo isn’t quite accurate. Also, Scarfo was actually very well liked for the most part by his own guys. “He was a beautiful guy” -Nicky Crow
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
Yep Chucky wanted him dead ..Salvie was a dead man walking when left the underboss's daughter with in weeks of a huge mafia wedding Huge huge miscalculation on Salvies part , Thats one reason and maybe enough , But then there was Scarfos paranoia he knew he could be a target as Salvie was cornered ,When Salvie was given the kiss of death from Chucky Merlino in front of the whole mob at Joseph Pungitore's aunt's funeral thats it a wrap someone was going after that ,Salvie was basically running Philly while on the outs with Merlino who wanted him dead , also the greedy Machiavellian crews smelled blood in the water and a cash cow was the prize, Also Scarfo sure could see where a Testa Merlino marriage and alliance wasn't good for Scarfo so thats thats , Salvie had to go and he wentPHL_Mob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:01 pm Salvie probably shouldn’t have been killed, but there were technically grounds for it to be within the parameters. Also, Nicky approved Sal hit, but it was Chucky Merlino that wanted him dead and fueled the fire for Nicky to approve the hit so to say it was all scarfo isn’t quite accurate. Also, Scarfo was actually very well liked for the most part by his own guys. “He was a beautiful guy” -Nicky Crow
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“He was a beautiful guy”...until you fucked up
by getting caught on a wire extorting Rouse
and the FBI. Then its 'this' (hand gun gesture). lol
by getting caught on a wire extorting Rouse
and the FBI. Then its 'this' (hand gun gesture). lol
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Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
Scarfo wasn't going to kill Caramandi, he wasn't even looking at heavy time for the shakedown. Long John played Caramandi.
Re: Rumor Narducci arrested in Philly
as of nowThe feds have sealed up there dention hearing ,under the current indictment it appears like the feds are looking for 70-80 months (50-63 months if he pleads out )
I think its very likely he wasn't involded in the mafia operations and was doing this on his own
the feds say mention these hits narducci allegelly was involded in Salvatore Tamburrino, the murder of Robert
Riccobene, the attempted murder of Joseph Salerno, frank martines
During a recorded meeting on November 26, 2018, Gallo admitted
to Victim A that he had brought Narducci “$300,000 in loans,” or words to that effect. This
recorded statement clearly shows that Gallo and Narducci worked in concert to extort other
loansharking victims beyond Victim A.
I think its very likely he wasn't involded in the mafia operations and was doing this on his own
the feds say mention these hits narducci allegelly was involded in Salvatore Tamburrino, the murder of Robert
Riccobene, the attempted murder of Joseph Salerno, frank martines
During a recorded meeting on November 26, 2018, Gallo admitted
to Victim A that he had brought Narducci “$300,000 in loans,” or words to that effect. This
recorded statement clearly shows that Gallo and Narducci worked in concert to extort other
loansharking victims beyond Victim A.
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