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Think you're right on that.NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 7:54 am The last two DeCav busts since 2015 were affiliated with the Toms River guys at the shore. You just gotta trust me on this one.
The most common line of division (that I was always told) was the Driscoll Bridge. Everything above was the Northern NJ crew's...Union, Hudson, Essex, Bergen County and everything below belonged to the Atlantic City/Philly guys.Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 3:12 pm How has territory typically been divvied up in Jersey? Maybe not so much today but damn near 7-8 families had a presence there at one point. Or is it more divvied up by “racket” and not by geographical boundaries?
).What is it they say? I'd complain but who'd listen?Garbageman wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:57 pmAnd if "wiseguy" happens to read this (how ya doing buddy!?)..
In reference to the Driscoll Bridge dividing territory, are talking waste hauling? The Philly guys were never much into garbage were they?The most common line of division (that I was always told) was the Driscoll Bridge. Everything above was the Northern NJ crew's...Union, Hudson, Essex, Bergen County and everything below belonged to the Atlantic City/Philly guys.
We didnt dare take stops below the Driscoll Bridge before the early 90s unless a prior agreement was made or a trade-off deal. After the mid 90s when everyone got bought out by Waste Management and BFI, that line was breached and it became a literal free-for-all after that. Today there are no territories that are abided by other than the ones politicians and the government have in place utilizing unconstitutional flow control laws, which they found ways around....as they always do.
Funny story...someone a few pages back was making fun of a kid they said looked like a farmer (he looked more like a rapper to me)...anyway...One of the most wealthy, well connected, well respected and protected guys I ever met in the garbage business came to a meeting once wearing bib overalls and a pair of muddy Hush Puppies on his feet. I didn't look much different. We hit it off right away just because of how we dressed. Never did culminate in a business relationship but it sure was an awesome experience getting to have dinner with him and bullshit for 3 or 4 hours about the good old days. He died a few years back.
I remember when Mazzochi Wrecking had that article written about them for utilizing those guys on a casino demolition job. I won't name names because they're still alive but the daughter flipped out and made a statement to the press in their defense and rightfully so. The way things were setup, even back in 02, was when you won a bid out of your area, you had to use whatever local union guys were down there in some capacity. This was an Atlantic County job and Mazzochi was based out of Morris County, they had no choice but to utilize the Atlantic County Local. It was the unions fault those guys slipped through the cracks, not Mazzochis. I remember how pissed she was. At the time, I was calling their office frequently because we had worked together on a few jobs in NY and NJ...their checks were like gold, btw....on time and never a "Spalding". Great family company. First place I ever worked for, driving a dump trailer too, back when you didnt need a CDL license. The old man had a hole in the ground in Northeastern Pennsylvania on a large parcel of land he owned and back then you were legally allowed to dump demolition material into a hole in the ground in PA. It was also allowed to periodically set the hole on fire and let the material burn down to make room for more material. It was like a private little incinerator.
Do that now and you'll wind up doing life in prison....unless you're a politicians pal, then you'll just have to pay to have it cleaned up. Or your politician friend will stall the case for a decade then have the state take it over and declare it a Superfund Site...like what they did down in Burlington County recently and so many other locations. I still keep an eyeball on NY and NJ, even though I'm long gone from the business and soon to be moving far away (for anyone here glowing like a ghost).
This was a fun read. Hope you're all doing well during this insane time.
Newark is just all Hood rightFlushing wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 7:09 pm They have a guy in Newark but I forget his name. It may just be the one guy, not a full crew. And I believe he is from the area near Belleville, not the Ironbound. The Philly crew run by Scoops Licata has the Ironbound section (I think).
I mention this because there are so few habitable sections of Newark.
There are still decavs in Peterstown, as well, from what I read on here.
