Role of a Soldier Today

[TommyNoto]

The weed comes from CA as you can get almost unlimited quantity at great prices , especially high grade out door or green house. Indoor still has a little price to it given the costs . Serious amount of weed moving west coast to east coast today , big $.

They have a lot of their own grow houses. Even more profit.

I’m sure some do but it’s easier from CA , CO, better quality , and you can get huge amounts at get prices .

Better to grow where it’s legal and it comes vacuum sealed so shipping is pretty easy .

That’s just rumors though

[CabriniGreen]

Nah, the small timer growers have more regulations than ever. Weed is everywhere. If you dont have market share it's harder to make a big profit..

[JeremyTheJew]

@ Jeremy

I had to check..... Jackie had the title... but I've read felices hat Cali for all intents and purposes kinda ran that crew.. 18th ave. Or no?

I know about Conte and the supermarkets. They went in depth into it in that Boss of Bosses book.

Based on Felices info... dont know if Conte was widely respected....

are you asking Jackie nose?? who Cali was under?
thats a good question bc i do remmember hearing he got the "bensonhurst" crew. may be thas a different crew?? ik 18th is part of bensonhurst tho.

from what ik johnny gambino was official capo

[Jeff]

if you're a young kid getting it on the side, wanting your button would be retarded.
you need 10-20 guys to take action with. you get an online platform from costa rica. make a few g's a week. some kid cant pay, let it go. better to just turn him off.
some guys at work need money until pay day you lend it at 5%. no drugs, no card games.
if you need any partners/runners only use childhood friends.

some guy asks if you want to get made and you run like a deer.

Why no card games?

[Frank]

@ Jeremy

I had to check..... Jackie had the title... but I've read felices hat Cali for all intents and purposes kinda ran that crew.. 18th ave. Or no?

I know about Conte and the supermarkets. They went in depth into it in that Boss of Bosses book.

Based on Felices info... dont know if Conte was widely respected....

are you asking Jackie nose?? who Cali was under?
thats a good question bc i do remmember hearing he got the "bensonhurst" crew. may be thas a different crew?? ik 18th is part of bensonhurst tho.

from what ik johnny gambino was official capo

Yes Cali was under Mikey Scars and Jackie the Nose at one point.

[JeremyTheJew]

@ Jeremy

I had to check..... Jackie had the title... but I've read felices hat Cali for all intents and purposes kinda ran that crew.. 18th ave. Or no?

I know about Conte and the supermarkets. They went in depth into it in that Boss of Bosses book.

Based on Felices info... dont know if Conte was widely respected....

are you asking Jackie nose?? who Cali was under?
thats a good question bc i do remmember hearing he got the "bensonhurst" crew. may be thas a different crew?? ik 18th is part of bensonhurst tho.

from what ik johnny gambino was official capo

Yes Cali was under Mikey Scars and Jackie the Nose at one point.

yes but different crews.
that was a Brooklyn crew. not specifically 18th ave

[Cheech]

if you're a young kid getting it on the side, wanting your button would be retarded.
you need 10-20 guys to take action with. you get an online platform from costa rica. make a few g's a week. some kid cant pay, let it go. better to just turn him off.
some guys at work need money until pay day you lend it at 5%. no drugs, no card games.
if you need any partners/runners only use childhood friends.

some guy asks if you want to get made and you run like a deer.

Why no card games?

these guys had it god until they started opening poker shops.
http://articles.courant.com/2012-06-13/ ... bling-case

2 of them i am close with.

brings unwanted attention.

[UTC]

LCN in America is pretty much at the bottom of the drug food chain. Needless to say, that was not always the case.

If the "bottom of the drug food chain" is direct retail sales to customers on the street, that really doesn't describe the LCN, at least generally speaking. There have been some examples of that, and obviously different LCN people are at various levels of the drug trade, but on the whole the LCN operates higher up than that.

The 2009 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment reported reported "LCN members engage in wholesale distribution of high-potency marijuana and ecstasy and, to a lesser extent, cocaine and heroin. It facilitated drug smuggling through several major U.S. maritime POEs, had very close working relationships with Italian organized crime (IOC), and were increasingly working with Mexican DTOs. LCN members also worked with mid level and retail level distribution groups and street gangs such as Latin Kings, OMGs such as Hells Angels Motorcycle Club, and independent dealers who distributed drugs in bars and clubs."

The LCN has been marginalized in the drug trade, compared to where it once was, but we shouldnt overstate that.

Like even Contes crew... this wasnt a drug crew? ( I thought Gotti even ordered him to reactivate the pipeline.. that could be wrong though. Just checking my facts here... help me out guys, lol

Conte had interests in supermarkets, real estate, etc but was also involved in drug trafficking. According to Gravano, after Castellano was killed, he met with Conte and told him Gotti wanted the same arrangement (drug profits) that he had with Paul.

did Conte own a percent of key foods?

He was on the board of directors for Key Foods, which was a part of Tapps which he had ownership in.

Read closely, this is not far from what I said, even with the obligatory exaggeration the DEA is known for. Wholesale can be selling ten ecstacy tablets to someone who sels them to ten kids. I consider that wholesale only in the most hyper-technical sense. Also, that was 9 years ago. Bikers are light years higher on the chain than LCN.

[JeremyTheJew]

LCN in America is pretty much at the bottom of the drug food chain. Needless to say, that was not always the case.

If the "bottom of the drug food chain" is direct retail sales to customers on the street, that really doesn't describe the LCN, at least generally speaking. There have been some examples of that, and obviously different LCN people are at various levels of the drug trade, but on the whole the LCN operates higher up than that.

The 2009 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment reported reported "LCN members engage in wholesale distribution of high-potency marijuana and ecstasy and, to a lesser extent, cocaine and heroin. It facilitated drug smuggling through several major U.S. maritime POEs, had very close working relationships with Italian organized crime (IOC), and were increasingly working with Mexican DTOs. LCN members also worked with mid level and retail level distribution groups and street gangs such as Latin Kings, OMGs such as Hells Angels Motorcycle Club, and independent dealers who distributed drugs in bars and clubs."

The LCN has been marginalized in the drug trade, compared to where it once was, but we shouldnt overstate that.

Like even Contes crew... this wasnt a drug crew? ( I thought Gotti even ordered him to reactivate the pipeline.. that could be wrong though. Just checking my facts here... help me out guys, lol

Conte had interests in supermarkets, real estate, etc but was also involved in drug trafficking. According to Gravano, after Castellano was killed, he met with Conte and told him Gotti wanted the same arrangement (drug profits) that he had with Paul.

did Conte own a percent of key foods?

He was on the board of directors for Key Foods, which was a part of Tapps which he had ownership in.

Read closely, this is not far from what I said, even with the obligatory exaggeration the DEA is known for. Wholesale can be selling ten ecstacy tablets to someone who sels them to ten kids. I consider that wholesale only in the most hyper-technical sense. Also, that was 9 years ago. Bikers are light years higher on the chain than LCN.

in the METH trade, yes bikers are much bigger. but that's also bc they literally made the merh.

[UTC]

Vertical integration makes you more prominent in a business sector. The bikers' role internationally in drugs is not limited to meth, and LCN is nothing internationally.

[Wiseguy]

LCN in America is pretty much at the bottom of the drug food chain. Needless to say, that was not always the case.

If the "bottom of the drug food chain" is direct retail sales to customers on the street, that really doesn't describe the LCN, at least generally speaking. There have been some examples of that, and obviously different LCN people are at various levels of the drug trade, but on the whole the LCN operates higher up than that.

The 2009 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment reported reported "LCN members engage in wholesale distribution of high-potency marijuana and ecstasy and, to a lesser extent, cocaine and heroin. It facilitated drug smuggling through several major U.S. maritime POEs, had very close working relationships with Italian organized crime (IOC), and were increasingly working with Mexican DTOs. LCN members also worked with mid level and retail level distribution groups and street gangs such as Latin Kings, OMGs such as Hells Angels Motorcycle Club, and independent dealers who distributed drugs in bars and clubs."

The LCN has been marginalized in the drug trade, compared to where it once was, but we shouldnt overstate that.

Like even Contes crew... this wasnt a drug crew? ( I thought Gotti even ordered him to reactivate the pipeline.. that could be wrong though. Just checking my facts here... help me out guys, lol

Conte had interests in supermarkets, real estate, etc but was also involved in drug trafficking. According to Gravano, after Castellano was killed, he met with Conte and told him Gotti wanted the same arrangement (drug profits) that he had with Paul.

did Conte own a percent of key foods?

He was on the board of directors for Key Foods, which was a part of Tapps which he had ownership in.

Read closely, this is not far from what I said, even with the obligatory exaggeration the DEA is known for. Wholesale can be selling ten ecstacy tablets to someone who sels them to ten kids. I consider that wholesale only in the most hyper-technical sense. Also, that was 9 years ago. Bikers are light years higher on the chain than LCN.

I'm not sure what "obligatory exaggeration" you're talking about but the report was quite different from what you said. If a mob guy selling 10 ecstasy tablets to a dealer sums up what you think LCN involvement in drugs is, fine, but that's not reality.

And what are you basing that biker statement on? OMGs in Canada have a major place in the drug trade but there's nothing to suggest those here in the U.S. are "light years higher on the chain" (talk about exaggeration) than the LCN. Narcotics are a common charge in OMG cases, and we see these throughout the U.S. given the number and transitory nature of OMGs, but those cases usually don't reflect the same lofty position in the drug trade. In fact, as one report put it, OMGs (along with street gangs and prison gangs) make up the bedrock of the retail drug trade in the U.S.

I should note that when I'm referring to the LCN in this context, it's the NY families. The few remaining small LCN groups outside NY are indeed minor players. But while the NY families have been marginalized when it comes to drugs, they still have a significant stake in it. But their strength and durabity comes much more from their diversification than their position in the drug trade. Unlike many groups, the LCN isn't a one-trick pony.

[Fughedaboutit]

Even Bascianos sons were importing loads of pot and wholesaling it

[UTC]

LCN in America is pretty much at the bottom of the drug food chain. Needless to say, that was not always the case.

If the "bottom of the drug food chain" is direct retail sales to customers on the street, that really doesn't describe the LCN, at least generally speaking. There have been some examples of that, and obviously different LCN people are at various levels of the drug trade, but on the whole the LCN operates higher up than that.

The 2009 DEA National Drug Threat Assessment reported reported "LCN members engage in wholesale distribution of high-potency marijuana and ecstasy and, to a lesser extent, cocaine and heroin. It facilitated drug smuggling through several major U.S. maritime POEs, had very close working relationships with Italian organized crime (IOC), and were increasingly working with Mexican DTOs. LCN members also worked with mid level and retail level distribution groups and street gangs such as Latin Kings, OMGs such as Hells Angels Motorcycle Club, and independent dealers who distributed drugs in bars and clubs."

The LCN has been marginalized in the drug trade, compared to where it once was, but we shouldnt overstate that.

Like even Contes crew... this wasnt a drug crew? ( I thought Gotti even ordered him to reactivate the pipeline.. that could be wrong though. Just checking my facts here... help me out guys, lol

Conte had interests in supermarkets, real estate, etc but was also involved in drug trafficking. According to Gravano, after Castellano was killed, he met with Conte and told him Gotti wanted the same arrangement (drug profits) that he had with Paul.

did Conte own a percent of key foods?

He was on the board of directors for Key Foods, which was a part of Tapps which he had ownership in.

Read closely, this is not far from what I said, even with the obligatory exaggeration the DEA is known for. Wholesale can be selling ten ecstacy tablets to someone who sels them to ten kids. I consider that wholesale only in the most hyper-technical sense. Also, that was 9 years ago. Bikers are light years higher on the chain than LCN.

I'm not sure what "obligatory exaggeration" you're talking about but the report was quite different from what you said. If a mob guy selling 10 ecstasy tablets to a dealer sums up what you think LCN involvement in drugs is, fine, but that's not reality.

And what are you basing that biker statement on? OMGs in Canada have a major place in the drug trade but there's nothing to suggest those here in the U.S. are "light years higher on the chain" (talk about exaggeration) than the LCN. Narcotics are a common charge in OMG cases, and we see these throughout the U.S. given the number and transitory nature of OMGs, but those cases usually don't reflect the same lofty position in the drug trade. In fact, as one report put it, OMGs (along with street gangs and prison gangs) make up the bedrock of the retail drug trade in the U.S.

I should note that when I'm referring to the LCN in this context, it's the NY families. The few remaining small LCN groups outside NY are indeed minor players. But while the NY families have been marginalized when it comes to drugs, they still have a significant stake in it. But their strength and durabity comes much more from their diversification than their position in the drug trade. Unlike many groups, the LCN isn't a one-trick pony.

Being perceived as being right on this is disproportionately important to you so have at it. You seem to be becoming one of those mafia fan bois you rail against.

[Wiseguy]

Being perceived as being right on this is disproportionately important to you so have at it. You seem to be becoming one of those mafia fan bois you rail against.

I'm a fan of the facts. Not because I'm rooting for the LCN.

[JeremyTheJew]

well ... I mean seriously.... OMGs in the US have only played a role in meth and marijuana.

it's rare for heroin or prescription drugs, maybe some coke, but regardless how is that going to be referred to as light years ahead.


Mexico has super meth. they got them beat.