Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
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anyone ever write a book on the 80s 90s new england mob? the take over of Junior?
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Some pretty good twitter updates, trial should be interesting
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Sorry I'm late for updates today and I'll be out of town next week so I won't be able to update next week.
These are from Shelley Murphy today (Boston Globe)
The next witness called by the government in #Salemme's trial is taking the stand: Jack Burke, a co-owner of the Channel nightclub in South Boston before murder victim Steve DiSarro bought it.
The Channel went into bankruptcy in early 90s and Frank Salemme Jr. was unhappy with a competitive bidder. Burke says they went to dinner "he took a plate and either broke a plate on his head or poured a plate on his head." Salemme's friend, Steve DiSarro got club at auction.
Steve Flemmi, Whitey Bulger's longtime sidekick and Salemme's former associate will be the next government witness; he'll take the stand after a brief recess.
The last time Frank Salemme and Steve Flemmi saw each other was 19 years ago -- when both were codefendants in a federal racketeering case in Boston and Whitey Bulger was a fugitive in the same case.
Salemme is now 84 and Flemmi's 84th birthday is Saturday. They have known each other since the 1960s. Both were criminals-turned-government witnesses. Now Flemmi will testify about walking in on Steve DiSarro's murder.
This is the first time the #Salemme trial courtroom has been packed, with some people now watching from an overflow courtroom, via monitor.
Steve Flemmi is dressed in an olive green shirt (prison garb) and dark windbreaker; he's got gray hair, combed back and glasses. He's being sworn. Frank Salemme is checking him out.
"I understand you have a hearing issue," prosecutor Fred Wyshak says. Flemmi acknowledges he does, and will be 84 in a few days. Says he spent his whole life in Boston -- though been in prison since 1995.
Flemmi explains his "Rifleman" nickname; came from serving as a paratrooper in Korean War, two combat tours with the 187th Regimental Combat team in the 1950s.
Salemme is sitting back in his chair to get a better look at Flemmi, seated in a witness box next to the judge, with a monitor in front of the clerk blocking Salemme's view.
"It's a little fuzzy but I can see it," says Flemmi when shown a copy of his 2001 plea agreement, when he resolved a 1995 racketeering case by pleading to extortion and money laundering; and a 1999 case involving his former FBI handler, John Connolly.
Flemmi has thick, black-rimmed glasses. He tells jurors, yes he was sentenced to 10 years in prison under that 2001 plea agreement, resolving money laundering and extortion charges. He forfeited real estate in Back Bay.
He hasn't got to it yet, but Flemmi was charged in a separate case with murder, and is now serving a life sentence for killing 10 people.
"Is it fair to say you forfeited a chunk of real estate in the Back Bay?" which you bought with illegal proceeds. "Yes," says Flemmi, noting it was worth millions of dollars.
Flemmi got to keep some of his property under the plea deal with the government, but says it wasn't all bought with criminal profits -- some was money he got under the "GI bill" as an Army veteran.
"This count relates to your getting tipped off by an FBI agent that you were about to be indicted. Is that correct?" Wyshak asks. Flemmi agrees and acknowledges that he passed that information along to #Salemme.
Now Wyshak is showing Flemmi another plea agreement from 2003. He agreed to plead guilty to the 1982 murder of John B. Callahan in Florida and the 1981 murder of Tulsa businessman Roger Wheeler in Oklahoma.
Under that deal, he was sentenced to life in prison for 10 murders -- including those of two women -- but was spared the death penalty in Oklahoma and Florida.
Flemmi is serving his life sentence in a federal prison for protected witnesses, which is not identified in court.
Flemmi says his agreement "is to tell the truth" and cooperate on whatever the government asks him to.
Flemmi says he's testified at several trials and grand juries and met with investigators. He's been in the witness security program in prison since 2003.
Flemmi agrees his brother "helped move some guns" for him and went to prison. (Michael Flemmi was a retired Boston police officer). The government offered him leniency if he cooperated, but he refused and did his entire sentence.
Asked to identify Salemme, Flemmi says, "I don't know where he's at, I can't see anybody?" He stands. Wyshak asks if he doesn't recognize him now, " I would recognize him if I see him but I don't see anybody,"
Flemmi glanced around the courtroom, but didn't focus on Salemme, now hunched over as he sits just feet away at the defense table. He says he last saw him in 1993, then agrees it was actually 1999 when they were in court together.
Flemmi says he met Salemme in 1964 through an associate, Wimpy Bennett, who was involved in loansharking. (Bennett was another murder victim)
Salemme "was working with Wimpy Bennett then the gang war started and he was involved in the gang war," says Flemmi, referring to the 1960s war between gangsters in Charlestown and Somerville.
"I stepped out from behind a building, I fired, I hit him six times and I killed him," Flemmi says, recounting the 1965 slaying of Punchy McLaughlin at a bus stop. He says Salemme was waiting the next street over and they left together.
Wyshak: Can you tell us what caused you to get involved in the killing of Wimpy Bennett? Flemmi says the Mafia didn't like Bennett and Frank Salemme asked him to kill him.
Salemme is sitting quietly, with his hands clasped under his chin as Flemmi tells the jury about a number of gangland murders in the 1960s involving a dizzying array of suspects.
"I shot him in the garage," says Flemmi, referring to murder of Wimpy Bennett. Says they put him in the trunk of a car; two friends took the body; dug a hole... "and we buried him"
"this was a remote location?" Wyshak asks, referring to the grave of Wimpy Bennett. "Yeah," says Flemmi, agreeing, "It was never recovered."
When Wimpy's brother, Walter, accused Flemmi of the murder, he says Salemme took care of it. "Frank turned around and shot him in Peter’s car," Flemmi said. Walter was buried in Hopkinton. Then a third Bennett brother, Billy, was killed.
"He was telling people I was responsible," Flemmi says of Billy Bennett. "So we decided we would get rid of him." Flemmi said Bennett thought people were part of his crew, but when they picked him up at his home they turned on him.
"When he got in the car Sonny Shields shot him in the chest," Flemmi says, recounting slaying of Billy Bennett. He was holding onto the car handle and "he fell out on the street into a snowbank." There was a cab behind them so they kept driving.
"We were concerned if the police ever got ahold of him he would say something," said Flemmi, explaining why another victim, Richard Grasso was killed.
Asked if he was involved in the 1968 murder of Tommy Timmins, Flemmi is confused and starts talking about the murder of another Tommy; Tommy King of the Mullins gang in South Boston. "Oh I'm sorry," he says when he realizes he mixed up his victims
"He was a home invader," Flemmi says. "this is Tommy Timmons I'm talking about." Prosecutor Wyshak says, "Slow down." (Some jurors are staring at him, one is yawning.)
"They beat him up pretty bad," Flemmi is saying, now referring to some other victim who was brought to Salemme's house in Sharon. He's talking about Timmons. "I thought initially they were going to bring him to the hospital, then I saw Larry and knew he was going to be murdered."
"This happened in Sharon, right in Frank's home," says Flemmi, describing how Timmons was then buried in a secret grave. #Salemme is shaking his head in obvious disagreement.
Flemmi is now talking about the attempted murder of Joe "the Animal" Barboza's lawyer in the 1960s. Salemme and Flemmi were both charged, but only Salemme went to prison.
"They wanted to blow him up; they wanted to put a bomb in his car," says Flemmi, noting the Mafia wanted to "make an example" of Everett attorney John Fitzgerald because he represented hitman-turned-government witness Barboza.
Flemmi is talking very fast about Salemme; "Frank's an electrician. We were practicing how to put a bomb in that same car" Fitzgerald had. When turned key, cap would go off.
Flemmi said Larry Baione and Frank Salemme drove to Everett dressed in coveralls like mechanics, put sticks of dynamite in car. "I'm down the street...so about 5 oclock that afternoon I heard a bomb went off in Everett."
Flemmi agrees that Attorney Fitzgerald survived the 1968 bombing. He says FBI agent Paul Rico told him "you'd better leave you're going to be indicted." Says Rico was "like a beat cop" around all the time, we were exchanging information "quid pro quo."
Rico "was giving us information on activities that went on in the Mafia that pertained to us," Flemmi said. (Rico was later charged with being involved in a 1981 murder in Oklahoma, but died before the case went to trial).
Now Flemmi is talking about the murder of Peter Poulos; "He was shot in Las Vegas out in Nevada." Flemmi said he shot him, then they dumped him on the road "and left him there." Says Poulos was a potential witness and wouldn't be able "to stand up."
Flemmi is jumping from murder to murder and talking very fast. "We stopped in the desert there, we switched seats and that's when I shot him," he says of murder of Peter Poulos. Then he fled to NY, hiding out to evade charges in bombing of Everett lawyer's car.
Flemmi says he and #Salemme were fugitives, hiding out in NYC, but he got concerned because Salemme was hanging with a guy from Providence who sold counterfeit watches and other RI mobsters were visiting
Flemmi said he worked at a Montreal newspaper while he was a fugitive in the bombing case, then Salemme got arrested in NYC. Flemmi said he finally surrendered in 1974 because FBI agent Paul Rico told him it was safe to return. A witness had recanted about Flemmi's involvement.
Now Flemmi is being asked if he knew a man named James Bulger. That would be Whitey. "You and him had a special relationship," Wyshak says. Flemmi agrees other Winter Hill guys "were party guys and we weren't."
Flemmi says he started hanging out with Whitey around 1974 and he introduced him to FBI agent John J. Connolly Jr.
Did you ever meet with John Connolly without James Bulger? Wyshak asks. Flemmi says no.
Flemmi says he developed a "close relationship" with Connolly and paid him money. "I never met him alone," was always with Whitey Bulger. Says it was "a much closer relationship" with Connolly than he had with Rico. Says he gave Connolly about $230,000.
Flemmi said he personally knew of about $230,000 that was paid to Connolly, but there was other money given to the agent for vacations and other stuff.
Flemmi says #Salemme went to prison for the attempted murder of the Everett lawyer, John Fitzgerald, but the charges were dropped against Flemmi. Flemmi said he gave money to Salemme's family when he was in prison. Salemme served nearly 16 years.
Flemmi said "Frankie (Salemme) was getting money from the Mafia" and "I was giving his wife $250 a week" -- through Salemme's brother, Jackie.
"but if I might add one thing, the money kind of dried up.... she wasn't getting the money she was supposed to be getting" from the Mafia. "At one point in time the washer machine and dryer were broken." Flemmi said he got the money from the Mafia for her to get new ones.
Flemmi said he alerted local mob leaders and they gave Salemme's wife $12,000 in back money she was due.
Flemmi said he liked #Salemme's son, Frank Jr., "He was a nice kid." Then recounts how Jr. was "scamming marijuana dealers." "He sold them a load of peat moss." then they were looking for him.
Flemmi said he told Joe Black, "Nothing is going to happen to the kid" Salemme Jr. "that's the way it works."
Flemmi is now done testifying for the day; he just looked at Salemme on his way out of the courtroom, but it's unclear he recognized him. #Salemme is now shaking his head. "He didn't even recognize me," Salemme says to reporters. "he's soft. He had a stroke."
"I feel alright," Salemme says to a reporter before being led from the courtroom by marshals. Flemmi will resume the stand tomorrow.
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Tomorrow should be a great day for sure information wise!
These are from Shelley Murphy today (Boston Globe)
The next witness called by the government in #Salemme's trial is taking the stand: Jack Burke, a co-owner of the Channel nightclub in South Boston before murder victim Steve DiSarro bought it.
The Channel went into bankruptcy in early 90s and Frank Salemme Jr. was unhappy with a competitive bidder. Burke says they went to dinner "he took a plate and either broke a plate on his head or poured a plate on his head." Salemme's friend, Steve DiSarro got club at auction.
Steve Flemmi, Whitey Bulger's longtime sidekick and Salemme's former associate will be the next government witness; he'll take the stand after a brief recess.
The last time Frank Salemme and Steve Flemmi saw each other was 19 years ago -- when both were codefendants in a federal racketeering case in Boston and Whitey Bulger was a fugitive in the same case.
Salemme is now 84 and Flemmi's 84th birthday is Saturday. They have known each other since the 1960s. Both were criminals-turned-government witnesses. Now Flemmi will testify about walking in on Steve DiSarro's murder.
This is the first time the #Salemme trial courtroom has been packed, with some people now watching from an overflow courtroom, via monitor.
Steve Flemmi is dressed in an olive green shirt (prison garb) and dark windbreaker; he's got gray hair, combed back and glasses. He's being sworn. Frank Salemme is checking him out.
"I understand you have a hearing issue," prosecutor Fred Wyshak says. Flemmi acknowledges he does, and will be 84 in a few days. Says he spent his whole life in Boston -- though been in prison since 1995.
Flemmi explains his "Rifleman" nickname; came from serving as a paratrooper in Korean War, two combat tours with the 187th Regimental Combat team in the 1950s.
Salemme is sitting back in his chair to get a better look at Flemmi, seated in a witness box next to the judge, with a monitor in front of the clerk blocking Salemme's view.
"It's a little fuzzy but I can see it," says Flemmi when shown a copy of his 2001 plea agreement, when he resolved a 1995 racketeering case by pleading to extortion and money laundering; and a 1999 case involving his former FBI handler, John Connolly.
Flemmi has thick, black-rimmed glasses. He tells jurors, yes he was sentenced to 10 years in prison under that 2001 plea agreement, resolving money laundering and extortion charges. He forfeited real estate in Back Bay.
He hasn't got to it yet, but Flemmi was charged in a separate case with murder, and is now serving a life sentence for killing 10 people.
"Is it fair to say you forfeited a chunk of real estate in the Back Bay?" which you bought with illegal proceeds. "Yes," says Flemmi, noting it was worth millions of dollars.
Flemmi got to keep some of his property under the plea deal with the government, but says it wasn't all bought with criminal profits -- some was money he got under the "GI bill" as an Army veteran.
"This count relates to your getting tipped off by an FBI agent that you were about to be indicted. Is that correct?" Wyshak asks. Flemmi agrees and acknowledges that he passed that information along to #Salemme.
Now Wyshak is showing Flemmi another plea agreement from 2003. He agreed to plead guilty to the 1982 murder of John B. Callahan in Florida and the 1981 murder of Tulsa businessman Roger Wheeler in Oklahoma.
Under that deal, he was sentenced to life in prison for 10 murders -- including those of two women -- but was spared the death penalty in Oklahoma and Florida.
Flemmi is serving his life sentence in a federal prison for protected witnesses, which is not identified in court.
Flemmi says his agreement "is to tell the truth" and cooperate on whatever the government asks him to.
Flemmi says he's testified at several trials and grand juries and met with investigators. He's been in the witness security program in prison since 2003.
Flemmi agrees his brother "helped move some guns" for him and went to prison. (Michael Flemmi was a retired Boston police officer). The government offered him leniency if he cooperated, but he refused and did his entire sentence.
Asked to identify Salemme, Flemmi says, "I don't know where he's at, I can't see anybody?" He stands. Wyshak asks if he doesn't recognize him now, " I would recognize him if I see him but I don't see anybody,"
Flemmi glanced around the courtroom, but didn't focus on Salemme, now hunched over as he sits just feet away at the defense table. He says he last saw him in 1993, then agrees it was actually 1999 when they were in court together.
Flemmi says he met Salemme in 1964 through an associate, Wimpy Bennett, who was involved in loansharking. (Bennett was another murder victim)
Salemme "was working with Wimpy Bennett then the gang war started and he was involved in the gang war," says Flemmi, referring to the 1960s war between gangsters in Charlestown and Somerville.
"I stepped out from behind a building, I fired, I hit him six times and I killed him," Flemmi says, recounting the 1965 slaying of Punchy McLaughlin at a bus stop. He says Salemme was waiting the next street over and they left together.
Wyshak: Can you tell us what caused you to get involved in the killing of Wimpy Bennett? Flemmi says the Mafia didn't like Bennett and Frank Salemme asked him to kill him.
Salemme is sitting quietly, with his hands clasped under his chin as Flemmi tells the jury about a number of gangland murders in the 1960s involving a dizzying array of suspects.
"I shot him in the garage," says Flemmi, referring to murder of Wimpy Bennett. Says they put him in the trunk of a car; two friends took the body; dug a hole... "and we buried him"
"this was a remote location?" Wyshak asks, referring to the grave of Wimpy Bennett. "Yeah," says Flemmi, agreeing, "It was never recovered."
When Wimpy's brother, Walter, accused Flemmi of the murder, he says Salemme took care of it. "Frank turned around and shot him in Peter’s car," Flemmi said. Walter was buried in Hopkinton. Then a third Bennett brother, Billy, was killed.
"He was telling people I was responsible," Flemmi says of Billy Bennett. "So we decided we would get rid of him." Flemmi said Bennett thought people were part of his crew, but when they picked him up at his home they turned on him.
"When he got in the car Sonny Shields shot him in the chest," Flemmi says, recounting slaying of Billy Bennett. He was holding onto the car handle and "he fell out on the street into a snowbank." There was a cab behind them so they kept driving.
"We were concerned if the police ever got ahold of him he would say something," said Flemmi, explaining why another victim, Richard Grasso was killed.
Asked if he was involved in the 1968 murder of Tommy Timmins, Flemmi is confused and starts talking about the murder of another Tommy; Tommy King of the Mullins gang in South Boston. "Oh I'm sorry," he says when he realizes he mixed up his victims
"He was a home invader," Flemmi says. "this is Tommy Timmons I'm talking about." Prosecutor Wyshak says, "Slow down." (Some jurors are staring at him, one is yawning.)
"They beat him up pretty bad," Flemmi is saying, now referring to some other victim who was brought to Salemme's house in Sharon. He's talking about Timmons. "I thought initially they were going to bring him to the hospital, then I saw Larry and knew he was going to be murdered."
"This happened in Sharon, right in Frank's home," says Flemmi, describing how Timmons was then buried in a secret grave. #Salemme is shaking his head in obvious disagreement.
Flemmi is now talking about the attempted murder of Joe "the Animal" Barboza's lawyer in the 1960s. Salemme and Flemmi were both charged, but only Salemme went to prison.
"They wanted to blow him up; they wanted to put a bomb in his car," says Flemmi, noting the Mafia wanted to "make an example" of Everett attorney John Fitzgerald because he represented hitman-turned-government witness Barboza.
Flemmi is talking very fast about Salemme; "Frank's an electrician. We were practicing how to put a bomb in that same car" Fitzgerald had. When turned key, cap would go off.
Flemmi said Larry Baione and Frank Salemme drove to Everett dressed in coveralls like mechanics, put sticks of dynamite in car. "I'm down the street...so about 5 oclock that afternoon I heard a bomb went off in Everett."
Flemmi agrees that Attorney Fitzgerald survived the 1968 bombing. He says FBI agent Paul Rico told him "you'd better leave you're going to be indicted." Says Rico was "like a beat cop" around all the time, we were exchanging information "quid pro quo."
Rico "was giving us information on activities that went on in the Mafia that pertained to us," Flemmi said. (Rico was later charged with being involved in a 1981 murder in Oklahoma, but died before the case went to trial).
Now Flemmi is talking about the murder of Peter Poulos; "He was shot in Las Vegas out in Nevada." Flemmi said he shot him, then they dumped him on the road "and left him there." Says Poulos was a potential witness and wouldn't be able "to stand up."
Flemmi is jumping from murder to murder and talking very fast. "We stopped in the desert there, we switched seats and that's when I shot him," he says of murder of Peter Poulos. Then he fled to NY, hiding out to evade charges in bombing of Everett lawyer's car.
Flemmi says he and #Salemme were fugitives, hiding out in NYC, but he got concerned because Salemme was hanging with a guy from Providence who sold counterfeit watches and other RI mobsters were visiting
Flemmi said he worked at a Montreal newspaper while he was a fugitive in the bombing case, then Salemme got arrested in NYC. Flemmi said he finally surrendered in 1974 because FBI agent Paul Rico told him it was safe to return. A witness had recanted about Flemmi's involvement.
Now Flemmi is being asked if he knew a man named James Bulger. That would be Whitey. "You and him had a special relationship," Wyshak says. Flemmi agrees other Winter Hill guys "were party guys and we weren't."
Flemmi says he started hanging out with Whitey around 1974 and he introduced him to FBI agent John J. Connolly Jr.
Did you ever meet with John Connolly without James Bulger? Wyshak asks. Flemmi says no.
Flemmi says he developed a "close relationship" with Connolly and paid him money. "I never met him alone," was always with Whitey Bulger. Says it was "a much closer relationship" with Connolly than he had with Rico. Says he gave Connolly about $230,000.
Flemmi said he personally knew of about $230,000 that was paid to Connolly, but there was other money given to the agent for vacations and other stuff.
Flemmi says #Salemme went to prison for the attempted murder of the Everett lawyer, John Fitzgerald, but the charges were dropped against Flemmi. Flemmi said he gave money to Salemme's family when he was in prison. Salemme served nearly 16 years.
Flemmi said "Frankie (Salemme) was getting money from the Mafia" and "I was giving his wife $250 a week" -- through Salemme's brother, Jackie.
"but if I might add one thing, the money kind of dried up.... she wasn't getting the money she was supposed to be getting" from the Mafia. "At one point in time the washer machine and dryer were broken." Flemmi said he got the money from the Mafia for her to get new ones.
Flemmi said he alerted local mob leaders and they gave Salemme's wife $12,000 in back money she was due.
Flemmi said he liked #Salemme's son, Frank Jr., "He was a nice kid." Then recounts how Jr. was "scamming marijuana dealers." "He sold them a load of peat moss." then they were looking for him.
Flemmi said he told Joe Black, "Nothing is going to happen to the kid" Salemme Jr. "that's the way it works."
Flemmi is now done testifying for the day; he just looked at Salemme on his way out of the courtroom, but it's unclear he recognized him. #Salemme is now shaking his head. "He didn't even recognize me," Salemme says to reporters. "he's soft. He had a stroke."
"I feel alright," Salemme says to a reporter before being led from the courtroom by marshals. Flemmi will resume the stand tomorrow.
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Tomorrow should be a great day for sure information wise!
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
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Here we go for today (Thursday), this should be good!
Via Shelley Murphy again:
The trial of former New England Mafia boss Frank Salemme will resume shortly. Whitey Bulger's longtime sidekick, Stephen "The Rifleman" Flemmi will resume the stand. Salemme just arrived, dressed in a dark blue jacket and gray pants.
Flemmi, who will turn 84 on Saturday, just took the stand. He couldn't identify Salemme yesterday, but now he just eyeballed him. He's dressed in olive colored prison clothes and a black windbreaker.
Flemmi is asked what happened to Winter Hill Gang leader Howie Winter in the late 70s. "He was incarcerated," says Flemmi, adding that "James Bulger and myself" were left to run the gang.
"After Howie got incarcerated he wanted us to leave the area," Flemmi says, prompting their base to move from Somerville to the Lancaster Street garage near North Station for a few years in the early 80s. (The Staties bugged that garage).
In 1988, Frank Salemme was released from prison after serving 16 years for trying to kill a lawyer and Flemmi resumed their association. Whitey Bulger "didn't particularly like it" Flemmi says.
Flemmi: Frank Salemme started grabbing bookmakers when he got out of prison in 1988 and rising through the ranks of the Mafia, and there was resentment by the Boston faction that was part of the old guard associated with former underboss Jerry Angiulo.
Wyshak asks if between 1988 and 1995, "Were you aware you were the subject of a federal investigation?" Flemmi: "Yes we were always the subject of a federal investigation."
Flemmi is being asked to identify old surveillance photos; he says one is a photo of him, Salemme and Salemme's wife, Donna Wolf -- but the consensus among reporters in court is he appears to be wrong. It looks like a man.
Flemmi says he was introduced to South Boston nightclub owner Steve DiSarro by Salemme's son, Frank Jr. Frank said they were having trouble getting a license to allow nude dancing at the club and asked him to see if Whitey Bulger could use his connections to help.
Flemmi said he asked Bulger if he could help them get the entertainment license for nude dancing at the Channel and later Bulger said, yes, but it would cost them $5000.
Flemmi said Salemme Sr. gave him the $5000; he gave it to Bulger, and the Channel got its license to have nude dancing at the South Boston club in the 90s.
Flemmi said Frank Salemme Sr. told him he heard Steve Disarro had met with a federal agent and feared he "would implicate him…. Frank was very concerned becausehe had a lot of criminal activity going on.."
"Frank wanted to kill him," Flemmi said of Disarro. Flemmi said his son, Billy St. Croix, was friendly with Salemme Jr. and was doing construction work at the club and he warned him not to hang around with him "because something may happen to Steve Disarro.”
Flemmi: On May 10, 1993, he went looking for Salemme Sr. at his home at 14 Marie Ave in Sharon, arrived to see Salemme Jr, and DiSarro walking into the house. He went in looking for Salemme Sr. and walked in on the murder.
Flemmi: "I opened the door to walk in, that’s when I saw Salemme Jr. had Steve Disarro by the throat he was strangling him. Paul was holding his legs.. I thought I saw Jackie (Salemme) but I wasn’t certain;."
Flemmi said Salemme Sr. "immediately stepped to the threshold." when he saw Flemmi and he told him, "Frank I’m leaving, I'll see you later." He said he left immediately.
Prosecutor Wyshak asked Flemmi why left. Flemmi said, "Frank could have been under surveillance; I was concerned someone else might be walking up to the house and I didn’t want to be in the area. I wanted to leave as soon as I could."
Later, Flemmi said Salemme Sr. told him that Salemme's brother, Jackie, had taken DiSarro, "wrapped him up" and put him in Salemme's car. He said, "Jackie followed Frank to back roads to a construction site in Rhode Island," where Bobby DeLuca was waiting to bury him
Flemmi said Salemme Sr. told him they had a 20-foot hole waiting at the construction site in Rhode Island, and that's where DiSarro was buried.
A photo of the kitchen at Salemme's Sharon home has been entered as an exhibit; FIemmi pointed to the spots where he was standing and where the others strangled Steve DiSarro to death.
Flemmi recounts a victim who got away in 1976. He says he and Bulger were stalking the guy on the Mass Pike, with Bulger driving 50 or 60 mph and Flemmi in the backseat with a rifle. "We're trying to get a position on him...I fired one shot." It missed its mark.
The jury is staring at Flemmi, who has combed back gray hair and thick black-rimmed glasses, nonchalantly describe murders: James Souza, Eddie Connors, shot in a phone booth, Richard Castucci.
Wyshak: Now I'd like to ask you about a person named John Callahan."
Flemmi: "He was the president of World Jai Alai.... it's gambling and it's handball. They use the rackets."
Flemmi says when Winter Hill gang member John Martorano "was on the lam" in Florida, he'd use Callahan's car when he came to Miami.
Flemmi: John Martorano told him Callahan had been fired from World Jai Alai and wanted to buy the company from the new owner, Roger Wheeler, and would let Bulger, Flemmi and Martorano run the parking concession.
Flemmi: Wheeler wouldn't sell the business and so Martorano was going to kill him for Callahan. That murder was in 1981.
Next, Flemmi said the gang killed Brian Halloran because he was cooperating in the murder of Wheeler. Wyshak asks where he was killed. "on the waterfront across the street," Flemmi says. (Now that area is the Seaport district.)
The prosecutor is covering a lot of murders spanning decades involving Flemmi, Bulger etal. "Johnny was a little reluctant" to kill his friend John Callahan, Flemmi says. John Martorano killed Callahan in Florida in 1982.
Flemmi just told the story of how he says Whitey Bulger strangled Flemmi's girlfriend, 26-year-old Debra Davis, in 1981. He says he made the mistake of telling Debra that he and Bulger were working with FBI agent John Connolly.
Flemmi: Bulger said "she’s going to be telling someone else" that Bulger and Flemmi were working with the FBI. "He put a lot of pressure on me so I just went along with it." He lured Debra to a vacant South Boston house he bought for his mother, next door to Billy Bulger's home
"It's very painful for me," Flemmi says as he recounts Debra Davis's murder. "She walked in, Bulger grabbed her around the throat and strangled her." She was buried along the banks of the Neponset River in Quincy. Her remains weren't discovered until 2000
Flemmi testified about all of these murders at Whitey Bulger's 2013 trial; Bulger was convicted of 11 of the 19 murders he was charged with, but jurors in that case couldn't reach a verdict on Debra Davis's slaying.
Flemmi just described the murder of Arthur "Bucky" Barrett, and says after Bulger shot him, Flemmi pulled his teeth to prevent investigators from identifying him. "There was no DNA back then."
Flemmi is now describing the ill-fated effort by Bulger and his crew to ship tons of weapons to the Irish Republican Army in 1984 on the Valhalla, which left from Gloucester and was seized off the coast of Ireland.
This one from Tim White:
Asked about the Valhalla, a ship Bulger tried to use to smuggle weapons to the Irish Republican Army, Wyshak asks "Are you an IRA loyalist?" Flemmi: "I don't get involved in politics."
Flemmi is now describing the murder of John McIntyre, who was aboard the Valhalla during the gun-running operation and began cooperating. "He shot him in the head," Flemmi says of Bulger. Then he was buried in the basement next to the remains of Bucky Barrett.
Wyshak is now asking Flemmi about the 1985 murder of 26-year-old Deborah Hussey, the daughter of his longtime girlfriend.
Flemmi says Bulger wanted Deborah Hussey killed because she was on drugs, extorting people for drugs, and using his name and Bulger's.
Bulger "got fed up with it he wanted her killed," says Flemmi, who brought her to a South Boston home. Bulger "grabbed her by the throat and strangled her." Flemmi said he tried to pull her teeth before burying her in the basement.
Wyshak asks Flemmi if he had a sexual relationship with Hussey (who had been raised by him since she was a toddler). He talks so soft you can barely hear him as he mumbles something about an "indiscretion."
Flemmi says Whitey Bulger's associate Kevin Weeks warned him and Bulger in late 1994 that indictments were coming down on Jan. 10; and Flemmi warned Salemme Sr. The other two fled, Flemmi was arrested.
Flemmi said he told Salemme's son, Frank Jr. that the indictments were coming down -- but Salemme claimed he was personally tipped by FBI agent John Connolly, cooperated against him, and helped send him to prison.
Salemme was on the run for seven months, then arrested in Aug. 95 in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Flemmi said he revealed that he and Bulger were FBI informants in a bid to get the 1995 case dismissed. "They weren't too happy about it," he says of his codefendants, Salemme Sr., Bobby DeLuca etal discovery he had been secretly giving information to the FBI.
"None of them were happy, I wasn't happy myself," says Flemmi, acknowledging "oh yeah" it affected his relationship with Salemme and his other associates.
Flemmi said he lied in 1998 when he testified during proceedings before Judge Mark Wolf that it was retired FBI agent John Morris who warned him in advance of his 95 indictment. He says John Connolly told him to blame Morris.
Flemmi says that he never spoke to RI mobster Bobby DeLuca about DiSarro's murder.
Prosecutor Wyshak finishes direct examination; now lawyers are having a sidebar conference with the judge before starting cross-examination. Flemmi is seated in the witness box beside the judge, with a monitor obscuring his view of Salemme.
Salemme's lawyer Steve Boozang says to Flemmi; "I noticed during your examination your voice dropped down" asks him to speak up. "I'll try" Flemmi says.
"Sir how many murders did you participate in? Boozang asks. "Was it more than 50 or less than 50? Try to give us your best estimate you don't have to be exact."
Flemmi says "there's a lot of murders here," asks if he means the ones involving Bulger and Martorano. Acknowledges, probably 50. "I'm talking about with everybody combined." says some he was participant, others a conspirator.
Flemmi agrees he turned down an offer to become a made member of the Mafia. He says he knows Salemme was working with Mafia don Raymond L.S. Patriarca at one time.
Flemmi: Salemme was a "kingsman" captain, dealing directly with boss Raymond "Junior" Patriarca.
Boozang asks if Whitey Bulger was the boss of Winter Hill mob in 1976. Flemmi: No, Howie Winter was the boss. Bulger became boss "when everyone else was incarcerated" - at some point in 1980.
Flemmi said Winter Hill gang members "all had a vote" and "we were all partners."
Flemmi agrees that when FBI agent John Connolly retired, he suggested Flemmi and Bulger work with another agent, but they declined.
Boozang: Until Judge Wolf held hearings in 1998, "You had no idea that they (FBI) were actually memorializing the information that you were giving them?" Flemmi: "That's correct."
Flemmi is being grilled about when he went to Salemme's Sharon home in late 1994 to warn him of their looming indictment. "Sometimes I get a little excited," Flemmi says, getting agitated on cross. "I just want to get my point across."
"I apologize if I get a little too loud," Flemmi tells Salemme's lawyer Steve Boozang, who's hitting on the fact that Flemmi has testified in a lot of cases and knows how it works.
Boozang says it took Flemmi 10 years, 4 months and 6 days after Steve DiSarro's murder to tell the government about it. "I didn't start cooperating until 2003," Flemmi says. "Don't you understand that?"Boozang says it took Flemmi 10 years, 4 months and 6 days after Steve DiSarro's murder to tell the government about it. "I didn't start cooperating until 2003," Flemmi says. "Don't you understand that?"
Flemmi says John Connolly retired from FBI in 1990 and the information he gave after that was "minimal," maybe about a bookmaker's number.
Flemmi agrees he gave Connolly the phone number for Salemme's brother, Jack, in 1993.
Judge Allison Burroughs to Boozang: Ask him the question you don't have to yell at him. Flemmi says he has "senstive ears."
"No I never gave John Connolly any information about any murders," Flemmi says in response to whether he told the agent about DiSarro's slaying in 1993.
Flemmi said he never heard the term "top echelon" informant until after his arrest in 1995 when it came out during the Wolf hearings that both he and Bulger were classified that way. Flemmi says he gave information on the Mafia, about bookmakers and other things.
Flemmi said he told authorities about the DiSarro murder when he began cooperating and was debriefed in 2003; Says the only person he ever spoke to about the slaying before that was Jim Bulger.Flemmi said he told authorities about the DiSarro murder when he began cooperating and was debriefed in 2003; Says the only person he ever spoke to about the slaying before that was Jim Bulger.
Via Shelley Murphy again:
The trial of former New England Mafia boss Frank Salemme will resume shortly. Whitey Bulger's longtime sidekick, Stephen "The Rifleman" Flemmi will resume the stand. Salemme just arrived, dressed in a dark blue jacket and gray pants.
Flemmi, who will turn 84 on Saturday, just took the stand. He couldn't identify Salemme yesterday, but now he just eyeballed him. He's dressed in olive colored prison clothes and a black windbreaker.
Flemmi is asked what happened to Winter Hill Gang leader Howie Winter in the late 70s. "He was incarcerated," says Flemmi, adding that "James Bulger and myself" were left to run the gang.
"After Howie got incarcerated he wanted us to leave the area," Flemmi says, prompting their base to move from Somerville to the Lancaster Street garage near North Station for a few years in the early 80s. (The Staties bugged that garage).
In 1988, Frank Salemme was released from prison after serving 16 years for trying to kill a lawyer and Flemmi resumed their association. Whitey Bulger "didn't particularly like it" Flemmi says.
Flemmi: Frank Salemme started grabbing bookmakers when he got out of prison in 1988 and rising through the ranks of the Mafia, and there was resentment by the Boston faction that was part of the old guard associated with former underboss Jerry Angiulo.
Wyshak asks if between 1988 and 1995, "Were you aware you were the subject of a federal investigation?" Flemmi: "Yes we were always the subject of a federal investigation."
Flemmi is being asked to identify old surveillance photos; he says one is a photo of him, Salemme and Salemme's wife, Donna Wolf -- but the consensus among reporters in court is he appears to be wrong. It looks like a man.
Flemmi says he was introduced to South Boston nightclub owner Steve DiSarro by Salemme's son, Frank Jr. Frank said they were having trouble getting a license to allow nude dancing at the club and asked him to see if Whitey Bulger could use his connections to help.
Flemmi said he asked Bulger if he could help them get the entertainment license for nude dancing at the Channel and later Bulger said, yes, but it would cost them $5000.
Flemmi said Salemme Sr. gave him the $5000; he gave it to Bulger, and the Channel got its license to have nude dancing at the South Boston club in the 90s.
Flemmi said Frank Salemme Sr. told him he heard Steve Disarro had met with a federal agent and feared he "would implicate him…. Frank was very concerned becausehe had a lot of criminal activity going on.."
"Frank wanted to kill him," Flemmi said of Disarro. Flemmi said his son, Billy St. Croix, was friendly with Salemme Jr. and was doing construction work at the club and he warned him not to hang around with him "because something may happen to Steve Disarro.”
Flemmi: On May 10, 1993, he went looking for Salemme Sr. at his home at 14 Marie Ave in Sharon, arrived to see Salemme Jr, and DiSarro walking into the house. He went in looking for Salemme Sr. and walked in on the murder.
Flemmi: "I opened the door to walk in, that’s when I saw Salemme Jr. had Steve Disarro by the throat he was strangling him. Paul was holding his legs.. I thought I saw Jackie (Salemme) but I wasn’t certain;."
Flemmi said Salemme Sr. "immediately stepped to the threshold." when he saw Flemmi and he told him, "Frank I’m leaving, I'll see you later." He said he left immediately.
Prosecutor Wyshak asked Flemmi why left. Flemmi said, "Frank could have been under surveillance; I was concerned someone else might be walking up to the house and I didn’t want to be in the area. I wanted to leave as soon as I could."
Later, Flemmi said Salemme Sr. told him that Salemme's brother, Jackie, had taken DiSarro, "wrapped him up" and put him in Salemme's car. He said, "Jackie followed Frank to back roads to a construction site in Rhode Island," where Bobby DeLuca was waiting to bury him
Flemmi said Salemme Sr. told him they had a 20-foot hole waiting at the construction site in Rhode Island, and that's where DiSarro was buried.
A photo of the kitchen at Salemme's Sharon home has been entered as an exhibit; FIemmi pointed to the spots where he was standing and where the others strangled Steve DiSarro to death.
Flemmi recounts a victim who got away in 1976. He says he and Bulger were stalking the guy on the Mass Pike, with Bulger driving 50 or 60 mph and Flemmi in the backseat with a rifle. "We're trying to get a position on him...I fired one shot." It missed its mark.
The jury is staring at Flemmi, who has combed back gray hair and thick black-rimmed glasses, nonchalantly describe murders: James Souza, Eddie Connors, shot in a phone booth, Richard Castucci.
Wyshak: Now I'd like to ask you about a person named John Callahan."
Flemmi: "He was the president of World Jai Alai.... it's gambling and it's handball. They use the rackets."
Flemmi says when Winter Hill gang member John Martorano "was on the lam" in Florida, he'd use Callahan's car when he came to Miami.
Flemmi: John Martorano told him Callahan had been fired from World Jai Alai and wanted to buy the company from the new owner, Roger Wheeler, and would let Bulger, Flemmi and Martorano run the parking concession.
Flemmi: Wheeler wouldn't sell the business and so Martorano was going to kill him for Callahan. That murder was in 1981.
Next, Flemmi said the gang killed Brian Halloran because he was cooperating in the murder of Wheeler. Wyshak asks where he was killed. "on the waterfront across the street," Flemmi says. (Now that area is the Seaport district.)
The prosecutor is covering a lot of murders spanning decades involving Flemmi, Bulger etal. "Johnny was a little reluctant" to kill his friend John Callahan, Flemmi says. John Martorano killed Callahan in Florida in 1982.
Flemmi just told the story of how he says Whitey Bulger strangled Flemmi's girlfriend, 26-year-old Debra Davis, in 1981. He says he made the mistake of telling Debra that he and Bulger were working with FBI agent John Connolly.
Flemmi: Bulger said "she’s going to be telling someone else" that Bulger and Flemmi were working with the FBI. "He put a lot of pressure on me so I just went along with it." He lured Debra to a vacant South Boston house he bought for his mother, next door to Billy Bulger's home
"It's very painful for me," Flemmi says as he recounts Debra Davis's murder. "She walked in, Bulger grabbed her around the throat and strangled her." She was buried along the banks of the Neponset River in Quincy. Her remains weren't discovered until 2000
Flemmi testified about all of these murders at Whitey Bulger's 2013 trial; Bulger was convicted of 11 of the 19 murders he was charged with, but jurors in that case couldn't reach a verdict on Debra Davis's slaying.
Flemmi just described the murder of Arthur "Bucky" Barrett, and says after Bulger shot him, Flemmi pulled his teeth to prevent investigators from identifying him. "There was no DNA back then."
Flemmi is now describing the ill-fated effort by Bulger and his crew to ship tons of weapons to the Irish Republican Army in 1984 on the Valhalla, which left from Gloucester and was seized off the coast of Ireland.
This one from Tim White:
Asked about the Valhalla, a ship Bulger tried to use to smuggle weapons to the Irish Republican Army, Wyshak asks "Are you an IRA loyalist?" Flemmi: "I don't get involved in politics."
Flemmi is now describing the murder of John McIntyre, who was aboard the Valhalla during the gun-running operation and began cooperating. "He shot him in the head," Flemmi says of Bulger. Then he was buried in the basement next to the remains of Bucky Barrett.
Wyshak is now asking Flemmi about the 1985 murder of 26-year-old Deborah Hussey, the daughter of his longtime girlfriend.
Flemmi says Bulger wanted Deborah Hussey killed because she was on drugs, extorting people for drugs, and using his name and Bulger's.
Bulger "got fed up with it he wanted her killed," says Flemmi, who brought her to a South Boston home. Bulger "grabbed her by the throat and strangled her." Flemmi said he tried to pull her teeth before burying her in the basement.
Wyshak asks Flemmi if he had a sexual relationship with Hussey (who had been raised by him since she was a toddler). He talks so soft you can barely hear him as he mumbles something about an "indiscretion."
Flemmi says Whitey Bulger's associate Kevin Weeks warned him and Bulger in late 1994 that indictments were coming down on Jan. 10; and Flemmi warned Salemme Sr. The other two fled, Flemmi was arrested.
Flemmi said he told Salemme's son, Frank Jr. that the indictments were coming down -- but Salemme claimed he was personally tipped by FBI agent John Connolly, cooperated against him, and helped send him to prison.
Salemme was on the run for seven months, then arrested in Aug. 95 in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Flemmi said he revealed that he and Bulger were FBI informants in a bid to get the 1995 case dismissed. "They weren't too happy about it," he says of his codefendants, Salemme Sr., Bobby DeLuca etal discovery he had been secretly giving information to the FBI.
"None of them were happy, I wasn't happy myself," says Flemmi, acknowledging "oh yeah" it affected his relationship with Salemme and his other associates.
Flemmi said he lied in 1998 when he testified during proceedings before Judge Mark Wolf that it was retired FBI agent John Morris who warned him in advance of his 95 indictment. He says John Connolly told him to blame Morris.
Flemmi says that he never spoke to RI mobster Bobby DeLuca about DiSarro's murder.
Prosecutor Wyshak finishes direct examination; now lawyers are having a sidebar conference with the judge before starting cross-examination. Flemmi is seated in the witness box beside the judge, with a monitor obscuring his view of Salemme.
Salemme's lawyer Steve Boozang says to Flemmi; "I noticed during your examination your voice dropped down" asks him to speak up. "I'll try" Flemmi says.
"Sir how many murders did you participate in? Boozang asks. "Was it more than 50 or less than 50? Try to give us your best estimate you don't have to be exact."
Flemmi says "there's a lot of murders here," asks if he means the ones involving Bulger and Martorano. Acknowledges, probably 50. "I'm talking about with everybody combined." says some he was participant, others a conspirator.
Flemmi agrees he turned down an offer to become a made member of the Mafia. He says he knows Salemme was working with Mafia don Raymond L.S. Patriarca at one time.
Flemmi: Salemme was a "kingsman" captain, dealing directly with boss Raymond "Junior" Patriarca.
Boozang asks if Whitey Bulger was the boss of Winter Hill mob in 1976. Flemmi: No, Howie Winter was the boss. Bulger became boss "when everyone else was incarcerated" - at some point in 1980.
Flemmi said Winter Hill gang members "all had a vote" and "we were all partners."
Flemmi agrees that when FBI agent John Connolly retired, he suggested Flemmi and Bulger work with another agent, but they declined.
Boozang: Until Judge Wolf held hearings in 1998, "You had no idea that they (FBI) were actually memorializing the information that you were giving them?" Flemmi: "That's correct."
Flemmi is being grilled about when he went to Salemme's Sharon home in late 1994 to warn him of their looming indictment. "Sometimes I get a little excited," Flemmi says, getting agitated on cross. "I just want to get my point across."
"I apologize if I get a little too loud," Flemmi tells Salemme's lawyer Steve Boozang, who's hitting on the fact that Flemmi has testified in a lot of cases and knows how it works.
Boozang says it took Flemmi 10 years, 4 months and 6 days after Steve DiSarro's murder to tell the government about it. "I didn't start cooperating until 2003," Flemmi says. "Don't you understand that?"Boozang says it took Flemmi 10 years, 4 months and 6 days after Steve DiSarro's murder to tell the government about it. "I didn't start cooperating until 2003," Flemmi says. "Don't you understand that?"
Flemmi says John Connolly retired from FBI in 1990 and the information he gave after that was "minimal," maybe about a bookmaker's number.
Flemmi agrees he gave Connolly the phone number for Salemme's brother, Jack, in 1993.
Judge Allison Burroughs to Boozang: Ask him the question you don't have to yell at him. Flemmi says he has "senstive ears."
"No I never gave John Connolly any information about any murders," Flemmi says in response to whether he told the agent about DiSarro's slaying in 1993.
Flemmi said he never heard the term "top echelon" informant until after his arrest in 1995 when it came out during the Wolf hearings that both he and Bulger were classified that way. Flemmi says he gave information on the Mafia, about bookmakers and other things.
Flemmi said he told authorities about the DiSarro murder when he began cooperating and was debriefed in 2003; Says the only person he ever spoke to about the slaying before that was Jim Bulger.Flemmi said he told authorities about the DiSarro murder when he began cooperating and was debriefed in 2003; Says the only person he ever spoke to about the slaying before that was Jim Bulger.
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
"Objection, objection, how many times do we ask the same question," Prosecutor Wyshak says. "Move on," Judge Burroughs tells Salemme's lawyer.
"Don't get offended if I ask you to repeat it," says Flemmi, noting he has a hearing problem.
Boozang says Salemme, Martorano, DeLuca were unhappy after learning Flemmi informed on them. "I wasn't informing on them," Flemmi says. "The fact is once they learned I was an informant....that's when they had their own agenda."
Flemmi agrees that after he was exposed as an informant, he was in custody at the Plymouth jail with Salemme and his other codefendants, eating with them every day.
Boozang: You gave DeLuca $10,000 didn't you? Flemmi: No I didn't. Says it was John Martorano and Boozang is mixed up. "It never happened."
Boozang says it was for Bobby DeLuca's defense, but Flemmi says absolutely not.
Flemmi was arrested Jan. 5, 1995 on federal racketeering charges with Bulger, Salemme and others -- and has been in prison since. In 1997 it was revealed in court that he was an informant.
"that was my defense, the immunity defense," says Flemmi, who hoped to get his case dismissed on the grounds that he was authorized to commit certain crimes. He said John Connolly was supposed to testify for him.
Boozang: John Connolly didn't come to your rescue.... were you upset? Flemmi: "I would say so..... he went back on his word."
"If I say in open court it might cause problems for people," says Flemmi, declining Boozang's request to identify other informants. Boozang asks about the ones who are now dead.
"Just get to the point," Flemmi says; he's annoyed with Boozang's questions about whether people knew they had a problem if they were summoned to a meeting with Bulger or Flemmi.
Flemmi agrees that he and Whitey Bulger hung out at the South Boston Liquor Mart, Bulger's headquarters on Old Colony ave.
Some gruesome testimony as Flemmi acknowledges he pulled a piece of the tongue of one victim while trying to pull his teeth; And he crushed victims' teeth finally and flushed them down the toilet. (so they couldn't be identified, prior to DNA testing)
Flemmi says he actually liked Arthur "Bucky" Barrett, who was "just a bank robber" and was killed by Bulger in 1983. He said he never knew him to be violent.
Barrett was involved in the 1980 Depositor's Trust robbery in Medford; criminals and some cops spent Memorial Day weekend rifling safety deposit boxes of cash and jewelry.
Flemmi said he and Bulger wanted a "piece of the score," but backed off when they found out that Barrett was under the protection of Frank Salemme. Still, he said Bulger wanted money.
They lured Bucky to a South Boston home, Flemmi says, Bulger asked him if he had money then they went to Bucky's Quincy home to get cash he had stashed. Flemmi said he thought "that was the end of it," but Bulger shot Bucky in the head.
"I didn't expect him to shoot him when I was in front him," said Flemmi, adding that "I wouldn't be talking to you right now" if Bulger had more than one shot in the gun. "And two girls would be alive," Boozang said.
"It was just another score to him," said Flemmi, agreeing that Bucky didn't have to be killed. "Believe me I felt bad about it." "that was a revenge thing on Bulger. If you knew Bulger you'd understand."
Flemmi said he was in front of Bucky walking down the cellar stairs when Bulger shot him. Bucky, Deborah Hussey and John McIntyre were killed in the same South Boston home and buried in the cellar (they called it the Haunty)
Now, the defense is moving on to the 1968 slaying of Tommy Timmons, which Flemmi says happened at Salemme's Sharon home -- the same one where Steve DiSarro was killed 25 yrs later.
Boozang: well you are aware that by 1968 Frank had 3 kids. You know his wife, Alice? Flemmi: "Yes, she was there. She gave me some towels."
Boozang: Salemme's wife put herself through Boston College, got bachelor's and masters degrees, raised 5 kids, and you're saying she was there when Timmons was killed in her house?
Flemmi: No she didn't come down (cellar)... she was at the top of the stairs and she gave us some towels. Boozang: Alice Salemme despised you Flemmi: I don't know why she'd say that. I helped her.... Says he gave her $250 a week when Salemme was in prison.
Flemmi says Salemme's brother, Jackie was living at the Sharon house. He said Tommy Timmons had been beaten up, he was bloody and came there for help. "Alice, all she did was send some towels down to me."
"He was still alive," Flemmi said of Timmons, speculating that Alice Salemme may have thought he was in a car accident or something. Later, two mobsters, Larry Baione and Red Assad arrived.
Boozang: Were any other bodies or people that were hurt taken to various homes? Anyone ever taken to your home, sir?" Flemmi: "I would never allow it."
Boozang: Red Assad that was there, he's dead, correct? Flemmi: I assume he is. Agrees "Steve the Greek" who was also there when Timmons was killed is dead. Boozang: "So we have only your word to take?"
Flemmi said Red Assad and Larry Baione, who were present when Timmons was killed, were Mafia people.
Boozang notes Salemme had 5 children under the age of 10, living at 14 Marie Ave. in Sharon when Flemmi says Timmons was killed there. Flemmi stands by his claim that Timmons was killed there.
Boozang asks if there's a schoolyard around the corner from Salemme's house. "I've never met him there," Flemmi says.
Flemmi says he met Debra Davis around 1975 or 76; he was 41; she was 17 and married, working in a jewelry store. Flemmi would go in, buy 4 or 5 pieces of jewelry; Christmas gifts.
Flemmi said Debra Davis was separated from her husband; "I had a lot of money and I spent money on her." Bought her a Mercedes, a Toyota. She had her own apartment in Hyde Park; later he got her one on Longwood Ave.
Flemmi describes Deb Davis as "a very sociable person," who had her own friends and a busy social life when they started dating. "I loved her but I wasn't in love with her. There's a difference I believe. She could have left any time she chose to."Flemmi describes Deb Davis as "a very sociable person," who had her own friends and a busy social life when they started dating. "I loved her but I wasn't in love with her. There's a difference I believe. She could have left any time she chose to."
Flemmi says he dated Deb Davis about 6 years, and got close with her the last couple of years. "I just wanted to make sure she had a comfortable apartment" so got her one. He paid for her and her mother to vacation in Mexico.
Flemmi insists they didn't kill Debra Davis because she fell in love with someone else while vacationing in Mexico with her mother and planned to leave him.
"it pains me, to this day I wish it didn't happen," Flemmi says of luring Debbie Davis to her murder. "it pains me, to this day I wish it didn't happen," Flemmi says of luring Debbie Davis to her murder.
Flemmi is talking about guys who were violent, Bulger, Martorano "and Frank too."
"To tell you the truth I was in a semi traumatic state, I didn’t want to look at her," said Flemmi when asked to describe how Debbie Davis looked as Bulger strangled her.
Boozang: "You leaned down, looked at her lifeless body and took her teeth out." "I did," Flemmi said. They buried Debbie Davis along the banks of the Neponset River, then Flemmi says he told her mother he was going to hire a private investigator to look for her
On that disturbing note, the jury is being sent home for the day.
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"Don't get offended if I ask you to repeat it," says Flemmi, noting he has a hearing problem.
Boozang says Salemme, Martorano, DeLuca were unhappy after learning Flemmi informed on them. "I wasn't informing on them," Flemmi says. "The fact is once they learned I was an informant....that's when they had their own agenda."
Flemmi agrees that after he was exposed as an informant, he was in custody at the Plymouth jail with Salemme and his other codefendants, eating with them every day.
Boozang: You gave DeLuca $10,000 didn't you? Flemmi: No I didn't. Says it was John Martorano and Boozang is mixed up. "It never happened."
Boozang says it was for Bobby DeLuca's defense, but Flemmi says absolutely not.
Flemmi was arrested Jan. 5, 1995 on federal racketeering charges with Bulger, Salemme and others -- and has been in prison since. In 1997 it was revealed in court that he was an informant.
"that was my defense, the immunity defense," says Flemmi, who hoped to get his case dismissed on the grounds that he was authorized to commit certain crimes. He said John Connolly was supposed to testify for him.
Boozang: John Connolly didn't come to your rescue.... were you upset? Flemmi: "I would say so..... he went back on his word."
"If I say in open court it might cause problems for people," says Flemmi, declining Boozang's request to identify other informants. Boozang asks about the ones who are now dead.
"Just get to the point," Flemmi says; he's annoyed with Boozang's questions about whether people knew they had a problem if they were summoned to a meeting with Bulger or Flemmi.
Flemmi agrees that he and Whitey Bulger hung out at the South Boston Liquor Mart, Bulger's headquarters on Old Colony ave.
Some gruesome testimony as Flemmi acknowledges he pulled a piece of the tongue of one victim while trying to pull his teeth; And he crushed victims' teeth finally and flushed them down the toilet. (so they couldn't be identified, prior to DNA testing)
Flemmi says he actually liked Arthur "Bucky" Barrett, who was "just a bank robber" and was killed by Bulger in 1983. He said he never knew him to be violent.
Barrett was involved in the 1980 Depositor's Trust robbery in Medford; criminals and some cops spent Memorial Day weekend rifling safety deposit boxes of cash and jewelry.
Flemmi said he and Bulger wanted a "piece of the score," but backed off when they found out that Barrett was under the protection of Frank Salemme. Still, he said Bulger wanted money.
They lured Bucky to a South Boston home, Flemmi says, Bulger asked him if he had money then they went to Bucky's Quincy home to get cash he had stashed. Flemmi said he thought "that was the end of it," but Bulger shot Bucky in the head.
"I didn't expect him to shoot him when I was in front him," said Flemmi, adding that "I wouldn't be talking to you right now" if Bulger had more than one shot in the gun. "And two girls would be alive," Boozang said.
"It was just another score to him," said Flemmi, agreeing that Bucky didn't have to be killed. "Believe me I felt bad about it." "that was a revenge thing on Bulger. If you knew Bulger you'd understand."
Flemmi said he was in front of Bucky walking down the cellar stairs when Bulger shot him. Bucky, Deborah Hussey and John McIntyre were killed in the same South Boston home and buried in the cellar (they called it the Haunty)
Now, the defense is moving on to the 1968 slaying of Tommy Timmons, which Flemmi says happened at Salemme's Sharon home -- the same one where Steve DiSarro was killed 25 yrs later.
Boozang: well you are aware that by 1968 Frank had 3 kids. You know his wife, Alice? Flemmi: "Yes, she was there. She gave me some towels."
Boozang: Salemme's wife put herself through Boston College, got bachelor's and masters degrees, raised 5 kids, and you're saying she was there when Timmons was killed in her house?
Flemmi: No she didn't come down (cellar)... she was at the top of the stairs and she gave us some towels. Boozang: Alice Salemme despised you Flemmi: I don't know why she'd say that. I helped her.... Says he gave her $250 a week when Salemme was in prison.
Flemmi says Salemme's brother, Jackie was living at the Sharon house. He said Tommy Timmons had been beaten up, he was bloody and came there for help. "Alice, all she did was send some towels down to me."
"He was still alive," Flemmi said of Timmons, speculating that Alice Salemme may have thought he was in a car accident or something. Later, two mobsters, Larry Baione and Red Assad arrived.
Boozang: Were any other bodies or people that were hurt taken to various homes? Anyone ever taken to your home, sir?" Flemmi: "I would never allow it."
Boozang: Red Assad that was there, he's dead, correct? Flemmi: I assume he is. Agrees "Steve the Greek" who was also there when Timmons was killed is dead. Boozang: "So we have only your word to take?"
Flemmi said Red Assad and Larry Baione, who were present when Timmons was killed, were Mafia people.
Boozang notes Salemme had 5 children under the age of 10, living at 14 Marie Ave. in Sharon when Flemmi says Timmons was killed there. Flemmi stands by his claim that Timmons was killed there.
Boozang asks if there's a schoolyard around the corner from Salemme's house. "I've never met him there," Flemmi says.
Flemmi says he met Debra Davis around 1975 or 76; he was 41; she was 17 and married, working in a jewelry store. Flemmi would go in, buy 4 or 5 pieces of jewelry; Christmas gifts.
Flemmi said Debra Davis was separated from her husband; "I had a lot of money and I spent money on her." Bought her a Mercedes, a Toyota. She had her own apartment in Hyde Park; later he got her one on Longwood Ave.
Flemmi describes Deb Davis as "a very sociable person," who had her own friends and a busy social life when they started dating. "I loved her but I wasn't in love with her. There's a difference I believe. She could have left any time she chose to."Flemmi describes Deb Davis as "a very sociable person," who had her own friends and a busy social life when they started dating. "I loved her but I wasn't in love with her. There's a difference I believe. She could have left any time she chose to."
Flemmi says he dated Deb Davis about 6 years, and got close with her the last couple of years. "I just wanted to make sure she had a comfortable apartment" so got her one. He paid for her and her mother to vacation in Mexico.
Flemmi insists they didn't kill Debra Davis because she fell in love with someone else while vacationing in Mexico with her mother and planned to leave him.
"it pains me, to this day I wish it didn't happen," Flemmi says of luring Debbie Davis to her murder. "it pains me, to this day I wish it didn't happen," Flemmi says of luring Debbie Davis to her murder.
Flemmi is talking about guys who were violent, Bulger, Martorano "and Frank too."
"To tell you the truth I was in a semi traumatic state, I didn’t want to look at her," said Flemmi when asked to describe how Debbie Davis looked as Bulger strangled her.
Boozang: "You leaned down, looked at her lifeless body and took her teeth out." "I did," Flemmi said. They buried Debbie Davis along the banks of the Neponset River, then Flemmi says he told her mother he was going to hire a private investigator to look for her
On that disturbing note, the jury is being sent home for the day.
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
Here we go with more of Stevie Flemmi today:
Today is via Bob Ward of Fox 25 in Boston:
I am back in C-17, US Fed Court Boston for Frank Salemme trial. Stephen Flemmi is still on stand, under cross.
Co defendants Frank #Salemme and Paul Weadick just walked in. Flemmi just walked past Salemme on way to witness box.
Defense attorney Boozang is crossing Flemmi now, asking about murder of Debbie Davis
Boozang: how many children you have with Ms. Hussey? Flemmi: three
Boozang: and Deb Hussey called you Daddy Flemmi: she was 2 years old. She had a father.
Boozang: did you have sexual indiscretions with her? Flemmi: yes, it wasn't intercourse. she was 18
Boozang: was it inappropriate Flemmi: sex is sex. I dont know how to understand that
Boozang: did she ultimately have drug problems? Flemmi: she was working in combat zone.
Boozang: did you think you were helping her when you had sex with your step daughter? Flemmi: your having sex with someone, how is that helping?
Boozang: deb Hussey and deb Davis were both 17 going on 18? Flemmi: thats right.
Flemmi testified that when Deb Hussey began talking about him, it caused problems with Whitey Bulger.
Boozang: when MSP first talked to you about your affair with your step daughter, you denied it. Flemmi: of course i denied it, i didn't know where they were coming from. Later i admited it
Flemmi: i did not deny it. I didn't know if they were talking intercourse, felatto
Flemmi: when you talk sexual relations what are talkign about? Ask me question direct. Lots of ways to have sex relations.
Boozang: what did you do to your step daughter? Flemmi: what kind of sex you talking about? Boozang: i dont know, im asking you Flemmi: you can have sex a lot of diff ways.
Flemmi: you dont know what fellato is? Boozang: what? Flemmi: Blow job! She was a different person. She was on drugs.
Flemmi: she wasn't my daughter. She was a whole different person. That's what happened Boozang: she called you daddy Flemmi when she was a young girl. She called her father daddy
Flemmi: bulger made decision she (deb Hussey) had to go. Not me.
Flemmi: we made a plan. When you make a plan on that level, you dont want to make mistakes
Boozang: on day she was murdered you took her out? Flemmi: yes bought a few things Boozang: you relaxed her. She didn't know it was going to go the way it did Flemmi: of course
Flemmi: there was a plan devised, i was going to bring her to the hosue and bulger was going to strangle her.
Boozang: what are you thinking when you are walking your daughter into that house? Flemmi it was a plan Boozang: any remose second thoughts? Yes, i tried to get her another chance.
Flemmi: he (bulger) decided, but we both agreed (to murder).
Flemmi: i dont know what she thought, we just took her there I told her we were looking at an apartment.
Flemmi: we went to look at basement, bulger grabbed her and strangled her. Boozang: did you see the look on her face? Flemmi: she was in front of me.
Flemmi: after murder, extracted some teeth Boozang: you take her clothes off Flemmi: me and Kevin yes Boozang: and then what? Flemmi: buried her in the cellar.
Boozang: at some point her mother asked you to help find her Flemmi: i dont remember her asking me to find her.
Boozang: after you left Marion Hussey' house, you stopped paying the mortgage Flemmi: it wasn't a big fight. I just left.
Flemmi: she would argue with her mother, and she blurted it out. (That they had sex). Boozang: and you stopped giving them money Flemmi: that's not true, i always gave them money. How do you think she was living in beautiful house in milton?
Today is via Bob Ward of Fox 25 in Boston:
I am back in C-17, US Fed Court Boston for Frank Salemme trial. Stephen Flemmi is still on stand, under cross.
Co defendants Frank #Salemme and Paul Weadick just walked in. Flemmi just walked past Salemme on way to witness box.
Defense attorney Boozang is crossing Flemmi now, asking about murder of Debbie Davis
Boozang: how many children you have with Ms. Hussey? Flemmi: three
Boozang: and Deb Hussey called you Daddy Flemmi: she was 2 years old. She had a father.
Boozang: did you have sexual indiscretions with her? Flemmi: yes, it wasn't intercourse. she was 18
Boozang: was it inappropriate Flemmi: sex is sex. I dont know how to understand that
Boozang: did she ultimately have drug problems? Flemmi: she was working in combat zone.
Boozang: did you think you were helping her when you had sex with your step daughter? Flemmi: your having sex with someone, how is that helping?
Boozang: deb Hussey and deb Davis were both 17 going on 18? Flemmi: thats right.
Flemmi testified that when Deb Hussey began talking about him, it caused problems with Whitey Bulger.
Boozang: when MSP first talked to you about your affair with your step daughter, you denied it. Flemmi: of course i denied it, i didn't know where they were coming from. Later i admited it
Flemmi: i did not deny it. I didn't know if they were talking intercourse, felatto
Flemmi: when you talk sexual relations what are talkign about? Ask me question direct. Lots of ways to have sex relations.
Boozang: what did you do to your step daughter? Flemmi: what kind of sex you talking about? Boozang: i dont know, im asking you Flemmi: you can have sex a lot of diff ways.
Flemmi: you dont know what fellato is? Boozang: what? Flemmi: Blow job! She was a different person. She was on drugs.
Flemmi: she wasn't my daughter. She was a whole different person. That's what happened Boozang: she called you daddy Flemmi when she was a young girl. She called her father daddy
Flemmi: bulger made decision she (deb Hussey) had to go. Not me.
Flemmi: we made a plan. When you make a plan on that level, you dont want to make mistakes
Boozang: on day she was murdered you took her out? Flemmi: yes bought a few things Boozang: you relaxed her. She didn't know it was going to go the way it did Flemmi: of course
Flemmi: there was a plan devised, i was going to bring her to the hosue and bulger was going to strangle her.
Boozang: what are you thinking when you are walking your daughter into that house? Flemmi it was a plan Boozang: any remose second thoughts? Yes, i tried to get her another chance.
Flemmi: he (bulger) decided, but we both agreed (to murder).
Flemmi: i dont know what she thought, we just took her there I told her we were looking at an apartment.
Flemmi: we went to look at basement, bulger grabbed her and strangled her. Boozang: did you see the look on her face? Flemmi: she was in front of me.
Flemmi: after murder, extracted some teeth Boozang: you take her clothes off Flemmi: me and Kevin yes Boozang: and then what? Flemmi: buried her in the cellar.
Boozang: at some point her mother asked you to help find her Flemmi: i dont remember her asking me to find her.
Boozang: after you left Marion Hussey' house, you stopped paying the mortgage Flemmi: it wasn't a big fight. I just left.
Flemmi: she would argue with her mother, and she blurted it out. (That they had sex). Boozang: and you stopped giving them money Flemmi: that's not true, i always gave them money. How do you think she was living in beautiful house in milton?
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
how the government can continue to use this fuckin worse than pond scum human being is beyond me, i guess so many witnesses are like this, but i cant imagine someone much worse than this piece of shit..just reading this post from Dixie is enough let alone everything else
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
Flemmi: it certainly wasn't from her husband.
Flemmi: i asked bulger to give her a pass. He was adamant.
Boozang: if you wanted to stop it you could Flemmi: he was adamant about it. He wanted it done.
Now to Teddy Deegan murder and Joe the Animal Barbosa. "he had a reputation for being dangeous. It was common knowledge."
Boozang: your brother and Barboza murdered Deegan. Flemmi: i wasn't there there. Boozang: you could have prevented it Flemmi yes
Flemmi: patriarca wanted him dead. Maybe i could have talked them out of it Boozang: but you couldnt stop the murders of Davis and Hussey? Flemmi: different situations.
Boozang:: did you meet with govt after yesterday's testimony Flemmi: i met with the whole team Boozang: are you part of the team?
Boozang: at some point you get involved with Wimpy Bennett? Flemmi: loan sharking Boozang: how much he give you? Flemmi that question is so broad, i can't answer.
Boozang: at time you became confidential informant with (fbi agent) Paul Rico Flemmi: yes Boozang: he gave you information, and you gave him info? Flemmi: he asked me question, if i had answer i gave it to him.
Boozang: you ultimately killed wimpy? Flemmi yes Boozang: he walked into a garage and you shot him in head Flemmi yes
Flemmi: rico asked me (about wimpy murder) i said didnt know.
Boozang is having flemmi review Rico's FBI Report on his conversation with flemmi. Flemmi says, "it's off, way off."
Boozang: paul rico was your fbi handler? Flemmi: that's correct Boozang: and you learned they memorialized their meetings in documents called 209s Flemmi: i learned that in Wolfe hearings.
Flemmi: if he asked me a question, i tried to answer it.
Boozang: did you tell anybody in fbi that LCN probably killed Wimpy Bennett? Flemmi no. Those are Rico's words. There's a lot going on with Paul Rico
Boozang: yesterday you said you were diverting attention away from you? Flemmi: of course. But john connolly was part of it.
Boozang: when you gave information, you wanted fbi to follow up on your tip Flemmi: i dont know what they were doing Govt asks for sidebar.
Boozang: did you ever talked to paul rico and blame wimpy Bennett murder on Salemme Flemmi: i dont remember that
Flemmi: when we gave information, bulger did the talking. We told connolly what we wanted to tell him. We didn't know he was memorializing anything.
Boozang: you knew he was talking to other FBI agents Flemmi: how the hell would i know that?
Flemmi: i would give information to bulger, he would give it to john connolly. What he did with it, i had no idea.
my note, they have quickly went over to the bombing of Barboza's lawyer now
Flemmi: when they were practicing, frank was practicing on identical car (bombing of lawyers car)
Flemmi: there was no bomb, just a cap, cap would go off. I went along with it, with other people. Not all me.
Boozang: you reported to fbi mr. Fitzgerald should be careful Flemmi: do you have the report? Boozang: you didn't want Fitzgerald to get hurt, so you told paul rico Flemmi i told him, he was aware of it.
Boozang: you told him about it before it happened. Rico got that one right Flemmi, yes he got that one right.
Boozang: and you drove from CA To Nevada, and you shot mr. Poulos? Flemmi Yes, twice. Boozang and you left him there. You didn't bury him Flemmi: i didn't have a shovel.
Flemmi: i didn't like New York, i went to miami. Was upset with frank salemme. He didn't want me to leave.
Boozang: salemme was apprehended by your handler john connolly? Flemmi: i didn't know him from a cord of wood at the time
Flemmi: everyone knows everyone in south boston.
Boozang: you were on run and still in touch with paul rico? Flemmi: once a year. Boozang: salemme got convicted and you got clear to come back from rico, said it was safe to come back Flemmi: thats what he told me.
Boozang: fran salemme did 16-17 years for Fitzgerald boming and you got zero Flemmi: he was convicted, yes.
Boozang: you were involved in murders, loan sharking, and until 95, you never did significant jail time. All that time you were fbi informant Flemmi yes.
Boozang: you knew there was warrant for your arrest for Poulos murder, what happened to it? Flemmi; i dont know.
Boozang: you were never prosecuted for Poulos Flemmi: that's correct.
Boozang: when Roger wheeler and john Callahan were murdered, you and bulger were suspects Flemmi: yes.
Boozang; you went in for interview with handler? Flemmi: we were interviewed by 2 FBI agents at HQ. We wore suits.
Boozang: you were told to dress up, like businessmen> Flemmi: that's right.
Boozang: you lied about being involved Flemmi; we weren't going to admit it. Youre right, it was an absolute lie. We weren't going to admit to any murders.
Flemmi: bulger was close to john connolly. I just went along. whenever he talked to him, i was there.
Boozang: connolly was indicted for tipping you and your gang off? Flemmi: he was indicted yes Boozang: and once he was in jail, he couldn't help you Flemmi: he pleaded the fifth three times.
Flemmi: i expected him to come in, but he plead the fifth. Boozang: he gave you his word he was going to help you out and he didn't.
Flemmi: i asked bulger to give her a pass. He was adamant.
Boozang: if you wanted to stop it you could Flemmi: he was adamant about it. He wanted it done.
Now to Teddy Deegan murder and Joe the Animal Barbosa. "he had a reputation for being dangeous. It was common knowledge."
Boozang: your brother and Barboza murdered Deegan. Flemmi: i wasn't there there. Boozang: you could have prevented it Flemmi yes
Flemmi: patriarca wanted him dead. Maybe i could have talked them out of it Boozang: but you couldnt stop the murders of Davis and Hussey? Flemmi: different situations.
Boozang:: did you meet with govt after yesterday's testimony Flemmi: i met with the whole team Boozang: are you part of the team?
Boozang: at some point you get involved with Wimpy Bennett? Flemmi: loan sharking Boozang: how much he give you? Flemmi that question is so broad, i can't answer.
Boozang: at time you became confidential informant with (fbi agent) Paul Rico Flemmi: yes Boozang: he gave you information, and you gave him info? Flemmi: he asked me question, if i had answer i gave it to him.
Boozang: you ultimately killed wimpy? Flemmi yes Boozang: he walked into a garage and you shot him in head Flemmi yes
Flemmi: rico asked me (about wimpy murder) i said didnt know.
Boozang is having flemmi review Rico's FBI Report on his conversation with flemmi. Flemmi says, "it's off, way off."
Boozang: paul rico was your fbi handler? Flemmi: that's correct Boozang: and you learned they memorialized their meetings in documents called 209s Flemmi: i learned that in Wolfe hearings.
Flemmi: if he asked me a question, i tried to answer it.
Boozang: did you tell anybody in fbi that LCN probably killed Wimpy Bennett? Flemmi no. Those are Rico's words. There's a lot going on with Paul Rico
Boozang: yesterday you said you were diverting attention away from you? Flemmi: of course. But john connolly was part of it.
Boozang: when you gave information, you wanted fbi to follow up on your tip Flemmi: i dont know what they were doing Govt asks for sidebar.
Boozang: did you ever talked to paul rico and blame wimpy Bennett murder on Salemme Flemmi: i dont remember that
Flemmi: when we gave information, bulger did the talking. We told connolly what we wanted to tell him. We didn't know he was memorializing anything.
Boozang: you knew he was talking to other FBI agents Flemmi: how the hell would i know that?
Flemmi: i would give information to bulger, he would give it to john connolly. What he did with it, i had no idea.
my note, they have quickly went over to the bombing of Barboza's lawyer now
Flemmi: when they were practicing, frank was practicing on identical car (bombing of lawyers car)
Flemmi: there was no bomb, just a cap, cap would go off. I went along with it, with other people. Not all me.
Boozang: you reported to fbi mr. Fitzgerald should be careful Flemmi: do you have the report? Boozang: you didn't want Fitzgerald to get hurt, so you told paul rico Flemmi i told him, he was aware of it.
Boozang: you told him about it before it happened. Rico got that one right Flemmi, yes he got that one right.
Boozang: and you drove from CA To Nevada, and you shot mr. Poulos? Flemmi Yes, twice. Boozang and you left him there. You didn't bury him Flemmi: i didn't have a shovel.
Flemmi: i didn't like New York, i went to miami. Was upset with frank salemme. He didn't want me to leave.
Boozang: salemme was apprehended by your handler john connolly? Flemmi: i didn't know him from a cord of wood at the time
Flemmi: everyone knows everyone in south boston.
Boozang: you were on run and still in touch with paul rico? Flemmi: once a year. Boozang: salemme got convicted and you got clear to come back from rico, said it was safe to come back Flemmi: thats what he told me.
Boozang: fran salemme did 16-17 years for Fitzgerald boming and you got zero Flemmi: he was convicted, yes.
Boozang: you were involved in murders, loan sharking, and until 95, you never did significant jail time. All that time you were fbi informant Flemmi yes.
Boozang: you knew there was warrant for your arrest for Poulos murder, what happened to it? Flemmi; i dont know.
Boozang: you were never prosecuted for Poulos Flemmi: that's correct.
Boozang: when Roger wheeler and john Callahan were murdered, you and bulger were suspects Flemmi: yes.
Boozang; you went in for interview with handler? Flemmi: we were interviewed by 2 FBI agents at HQ. We wore suits.
Boozang: you were told to dress up, like businessmen> Flemmi: that's right.
Boozang: you lied about being involved Flemmi; we weren't going to admit it. Youre right, it was an absolute lie. We weren't going to admit to any murders.
Flemmi: bulger was close to john connolly. I just went along. whenever he talked to him, i was there.
Boozang: connolly was indicted for tipping you and your gang off? Flemmi: he was indicted yes Boozang: and once he was in jail, he couldn't help you Flemmi: he pleaded the fifth three times.
Flemmi: i expected him to come in, but he plead the fifth. Boozang: he gave you his word he was going to help you out and he didn't.
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
No joke man. You can tell he still didn't see anything wrong with sleeping with his step daughter. He talks about these murders like we do talking about taking out the trash. Crazy...TJ wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:50 am how the government can continue to use this fuckin worse than pond scum human being is beyond me, i guess so many witnesses are like this, but i cant imagine someone much worse than this piece of shit..just reading this post from Dixie is enough let alone everything else
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
bill clinton excuse, didnt have sex with her, only fellatio..it was his fuckin daughter, step daughter, whatever, its disgusting...they put everything on bulger, wow, bulger not a saint, but bulger straight forward gangster, this broad can hurt us, kill her...flemmi is that, and a twisted piece of shit
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
Boozang: as a result of mr salemme and others, your chances of mr connolly helping you out, went to zero Flemmi: he took the fifth early on
Boozang: you are aware mr salemme was part of the reason connolly was indicted and convicted Flemmi: i knew he testified.
Back over to Karen Anderson on Channel 5 in Boston
Flemmi: “I took the 5th on all the murders.” He says he had been told John Connolly would help him. “I expected him (Connolly) to come in, he didn’t and I took the 5th.”
Flemmi looking at his own notes that he wrote to the FBI about his involvement with Whitey Bulger and John Connolly over the years. Boozang points out: “In great detail.” Flemmi: “That’s part of the cooperation.”
Boozang: Mr Connolly gave you a tip off on a number of investigations, correct? Flemmi: Of course he did. It was part of the game. Boozang: He was also an FBI agent, correct? Flemmi: Yeah. A corrupt one.
Boozang: “Did you feel you were responsible for a big part of taking down the Mafia?” Flemmi: “Absolutely.” Flemmi says he had better access to them then Whitey Bulger, adding “I was the one that could be around these people.”
Flemmi: “Lets get one thing straight. Frank wanted to be involved with the Mafia.” Flemmi says when that’s when his relationship with Salemme got strained. Flemmi: “He had that ambition,” adding “I didn’t want nothing to do with the Mafia. Period. I didn’t trust them.”
Flemmi says John Connolly wanted information from him on Salemme after he got out of prison for the car bombing: “He wanted me to give him any information on Frank.” Boozang trying to point out that Salemme never implicated Flemmi in the car bombing. Objection. Sustained.
When Salemme got out of prison, Boozang states that Salemme was first building condos in RI. Flemmi responds that Salemme aligned himself with Raymond Patriarca. “He became a kingsman and he was with the Mafia.”
Boozang: you are aware mr salemme was part of the reason connolly was indicted and convicted Flemmi: i knew he testified.
Back over to Karen Anderson on Channel 5 in Boston
Flemmi: “I took the 5th on all the murders.” He says he had been told John Connolly would help him. “I expected him (Connolly) to come in, he didn’t and I took the 5th.”
Flemmi looking at his own notes that he wrote to the FBI about his involvement with Whitey Bulger and John Connolly over the years. Boozang points out: “In great detail.” Flemmi: “That’s part of the cooperation.”
Boozang: Mr Connolly gave you a tip off on a number of investigations, correct? Flemmi: Of course he did. It was part of the game. Boozang: He was also an FBI agent, correct? Flemmi: Yeah. A corrupt one.
Boozang: “Did you feel you were responsible for a big part of taking down the Mafia?” Flemmi: “Absolutely.” Flemmi says he had better access to them then Whitey Bulger, adding “I was the one that could be around these people.”
Flemmi: “Lets get one thing straight. Frank wanted to be involved with the Mafia.” Flemmi says when that’s when his relationship with Salemme got strained. Flemmi: “He had that ambition,” adding “I didn’t want nothing to do with the Mafia. Period. I didn’t trust them.”
Flemmi says John Connolly wanted information from him on Salemme after he got out of prison for the car bombing: “He wanted me to give him any information on Frank.” Boozang trying to point out that Salemme never implicated Flemmi in the car bombing. Objection. Sustained.
When Salemme got out of prison, Boozang states that Salemme was first building condos in RI. Flemmi responds that Salemme aligned himself with Raymond Patriarca. “He became a kingsman and he was with the Mafia.”
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
Underboss goes over the Angiulo brothers until their fall in the 80's as well as Larry Zannino's fall. That's about it, not sure if Black Mass covers any or not as I've never read it. I wished there was more and there might be, but I don't know.
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
So why does this guy keep testifying for the govt? Didn't he get life? What is the point? I guess to get out and about on occasion??
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Re: Trial of Cadillac Frank Salemme
thanks Dix. hope all is well.dixiemafia wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:48 amUnderboss goes over the Angiulo brothers until their fall in the 80's as well as Larry Zannino's fall. That's about it, not sure if Black Mass covers any or not as I've never read it. I wished there was more and there might be, but I don't know.
Salude!