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Wiseguy wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:56 pm
gohnjotti wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:02 pm
slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:50 am Anyone think that kenji gallo could’ve possibly be full of shit with some of the stories he tells? I find some of his stories hard to believe, esp the story about how teddy jr wanted to whack craig marino.
He was probably full of shit in a lot of his book, but it's hard to say whether the Marino one was untrue. That's because, in the book, Gallo writes about how Persico's brothers' Carmine L. and Danny gave him two guns in poor quality and Teddy went on a huge rant to them about cleaning guns and so on and so forth. We know for a fact that the rant about those guns happened, as it was used as evidence to charge Teddy Jr. and Co. with gun possession. We also know for a fact that Gallo was the basis of the 2006 case against Teddy Jr. and Carmine L., so he was close enough with them to give the feds a chance to build an indictment.
Gallo also had extensive knowledge on Marino, i.e. his stock fraud schemes, etc. That kind of information shows, to me, that he wasn't lying about his ties with the Persicos, Garofalo, the Baudanzas, and Marino. At most, he was exaggerating them.
Kenji can be a hard one to follow. A lot of his info is correct but he can't help but interject his own interpretations or conclusions. The guns in poor condition story is a good example. Because Kenji saw one mob guy give another mob guy a crappy gun, his conclusion was that the mob in general was poorly equipped when it came to weapons. One can counter that with another anecdote, from Sammy Gravano if I remember right, who talked about Casso and his guys showing up to a meeting armed with silencer-equipped machine guns.
Agreed, Wiseguy. The funny thing is, Gallo has some parts of the book where he glorifies the mob (such as discussing the Garofalos and their apparently enormous influence on the construction industry) and then other parts where he sums up the Mafia as two-bit thugs who were, as he put it, proud of never having seen the Empire State Building since they had never left Brooklyn.
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gohnjotti wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:02 pm
slimshady_007 wrote: Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:50 am Anyone think that kenji gallo could’ve possibly be full of shit with some of the stories he tells? I find some of his stories hard to believe, esp the story about how teddy jr wanted to whack craig marino.
He was probably full of shit in a lot of his book, but it's hard to say whether the Marino one was untrue. That's because, in the book, Gallo writes about how Persico's brothers' Carmine L. and Danny gave him two guns in poor quality and Teddy went on a huge rant to them about cleaning guns and so on and so forth. We know for a fact that the rant about those guns happened, as it was used as evidence to charge Teddy Jr. and Co. with gun possession. We also know for a fact that Gallo was the basis of the 2006 case against Teddy Jr. and Carmine L., so he was close enough with them to give the feds a chance to build an indictment.
Gallo also had extensive knowledge on Marino, i.e. his stock fraud schemes, etc. That kind of information shows, to me, that he wasn't lying about his ties with the Persicos, Garofalo, the Baudanzas, and Marino. At most, he was exaggerating them.
So i guess teddy jr had the ok to whack marino from the bosses?
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I’ve been trying to search for stuff on John Scalish, Angelo Bruno, John LaRocca, and their Families during their reign. For some reason each search has too many matches and can’t itemize it. Does anyone have any links?
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NothingNew44 wrote: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:03 pm I’ve been trying to search for stuff on John Scalish, Angelo Bruno, John LaRocca, and their Families during their reign. For some reason each search has too many matches and can’t itemize it. Does anyone have any links?
thats a very broad question.... maybe search thru the charts section.... or posting a specific question
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When the books were closed in 58, was this just for NY families or was it for all?
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aleksandrored wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:13 pm When the books were closed in 58, was this just for NY families or was it for all?

It was just for NY and the DeCavalcantes.


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Looking for any information on John larocca
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:58 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:13 pm When the books were closed in 58, was this just for NY families or was it for all?

It was just for NY and the DeCavalcantes.


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NothingNew44 wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:51 pm Looking for any information on John larocca
http://www.ipsn.org/pittsburgh/t2000-08t-03-9-2001.htm
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NothingNew44 wrote: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:51 pm Looking for any information on John larocca
1977-1978 PA Crime Comission Report on Organized Crime
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Anyone have any idea when Vito Rizzuto got made?
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