Cammarano et al. indictment thread

[TommyNoto]

Yeah and the same with shootings , it’s just happening at the associate level . Can’t remember where but I just read the other day about an associate being killed or shot.

There still seems to be a good amount of wise guys and related businesses active today then one would assume with the mob is dead talk .

[Cheech]

Giallanzo around same time super active. The Bonannos have really been out there

[Chucky]

So even after Lovaglio was shelved he still met with Cammarano directly, maybe it was only going to be a temporary thing. Also I guess Sabella took over Lovaglio's crew since Sabella wanted his permission to kill some valet guy lol

[TommyNoto]

Yeah I agree cheech as they are all over Staten Island
As well , active and visible like the Howard Beach crew.

I know we bust on them here but on the street they are not a bunch you want to fuck with , very violent.

I wish we could here that tape where Camm Jr talks about the rising strength of the Bonnanos and he is probably right as their use of violence probably had a lot of people / companies willing to pay for peace of mind.

Also wish we knew more about LCN marajuana business. Guys must be absolutely crushing it with crews managing / protecting their CA production. Some of these crews are likely moving 1,000+ lbs a year and probably getting $250-$500 cut per lb. The Bonnanos have always been big in the weed trade ( including that big Canada bust ) so I would suspect they have a crew doing 1,000lb a month.

What great play by play document, can you imagine what this would look like for a top West Side crew( like that Tuzzo bust ) . Would be fascinating how diversified that crew is as we consider the Bonnanos not very sophisticated but this shows they had interests in a whole range of activities from the stuff you would expect but also illegal dumping which must have been a huge money maker ( hence all the sit downs ).

Fascinating how active these guys still are as 9 pout if 10 people think the Mob is basically dead .

[slimshady_007]

Yeah I agree cheech as they are all over Staten Island
As well , active and visible like the Howard Beach crew.

I know we bust on them here but on the street they are not a bunch you want to fuck with , very violent.

I wish we could here that tape where Camm Jr talks about the rising strength of the Bonnanos and he is probably right as their use of violence probably had a lot of people / companies willing to pay for peace of mind.

Also wish we knew more about LCN marajuana business. Guys must be absolutely crushing it with crews managing / protecting their CA production. Some of these crews are likely moving 1,000+ lbs a year and probably getting $250-$500 cut per lb. The Bonnanos have always been big in the weed trade ( including that big Canada bust ) so I would suspect they have a crew doing 1,000lb a month.

What great play by play document, can you imagine what this would look like for a top West Side crew( like that Tuzzo bust ) . Would be fascinating how diversified that crew is as we consider the Bonnanos not very sophisticated but this shows they had interests in a whole range of activities from the stuff you would expect but also illegal dumping which must have been a huge money maker ( hence all the sit downs ).

Fascinating how active these guys still are as 9 pout if 10 people think the Mob is basically dead .

The mob is still extremely active in nyc, nj, and south philly, nowadays their just more low key. Lcn still manages to recruit young guys and generate a good amount of cash. I remember trevor mcdonald interviewed some bonanno guy three years ago, and in the interview the mobster said something about how ‘the mob would always exist, just like how the catholic church and the jewish religion would always exist.’

[TommyNoto]

Yeah I agree cheech as they are all over Staten Island
As well , active and visible like the Howard Beach crew.

I know we bust on them here but on the street they are not a bunch you want to fuck with , very violent.

I wish we could here that tape where Camm Jr talks about the rising strength of the Bonnanos and he is probably right as their use of violence probably had a lot of people / companies willing to pay for peace of mind.

Also wish we knew more about LCN marajuana business. Guys must be absolutely crushing it with crews managing / protecting their CA production. Some of these crews are likely moving 1,000+ lbs a year and probably getting $250-$500 cut per lb. The Bonnanos have always been big in the weed trade ( including that big Canada bust ) so I would suspect they have a crew doing 1,000lb a month.

What great play by play document, can you imagine what this would look like for a top West Side crew( like that Tuzzo bust ) . Would be fascinating how diversified that crew is as we consider the Bonnanos not very sophisticated but this shows they had interests in a whole range of activities from the stuff you would expect but also illegal dumping which must have been a huge money maker ( hence all the sit downs ).

Fascinating how active these guys still are as 9 pout if 10 people think the Mob is basically dead .

The mob is still extremely active in nyc, nj, and south philly, nowadays their just more low key. Lcn still manages to recruit young guys and generate a good amount of cash. I remember trevor mcdonald interviewed some bonanno guy three years ago, and in the interview the mobster said something about how ‘the mob would always exist, just like how the catholic church and the jewish religion would always exist.’

I agree chubby and understand as I’m from the area. I was more making a general observation and that there are crews upon crews still knee deep in the staple LCN activity.

Even with today’s Bonnanos while it’s not as bad as the 80s, the drop off maybe isn’t as severe as a typical person would think. They are still taking about the murder game and it seems there was a lot more murder activity but at the associate level which isn’t always picked up on every time by the media. Their strength might even be underestimated today , especially with the top 2 famalies who probably have countless legal and illegal interests that might shock a few people with the level of assets / cash being generated

I would love to know the level of Calabrian activity in the states ( both legal and illegal ) and what US famalies they partner with . How would the West Side respond to $ making partner opportunities with them ?

[scagghiuni]

several attritions between bonanno's and lucchese's in the latest years
and the latest two mob hit in ny were a bonanno and a lucchese associate

[Wiseguy]

I would love to know the level of Calabrian activity in the states ( both legal and illegal ) and what US famalies they partner with . How would the West Side respond to $ making partner opportunities with them ?

Sergi said they work mainly with the Gambino and Genovese families, as well as the Bonanno family to a lesser extent.

Below are the Ndrangheta related cases we've seen in New York over the past decade. The cases involving the Genovese family seem to be them providing protection and/or financing. What's interesting is all the West Side cases are connected to Federici or people around him like Romanello who took over his crew.



September 2008 - Project Reckoning/Operation Solare case targeted the Gulf and Zeta cartels in Mexico and the Ndrangheta. The Aquino-Coluccio clan and the Schirripa clan were the Calabrian groups involved. One article reported that Vincenzo and Giulio Schirripa had ties to the Genovese family in New York and sought out it's protection in the operation. Interestingly, one of those charged in the case was Christopher Castellano, who had worked at a business owned by Genovese member Anthony "Tough Tony" Federici. Castellano was later shot and killed in Queens in October 2015.



February 2010 - 'Ndrangheta member Vincenzo Roccisano (who had been a major international drug trafficker in the 1980's and deported to Italy in 2002) was arrested and charged with illegal entry into the U.S. He was reportedly affiliated with the Schirripa clan and had ties to Tough Tony Federici.



February 2014 - Operation New Bridge case targeted the Ndrangheta working with the Mexicans to smuggle cocaine to Europe and heroin to the U.S. The Ursino clan was the specific Calabrian group involved and was said to have ties to the Aquino-Coluccio clan (involved in the 2008 case), as well as the Inzerillo, Spatola-Gambino families from Sicily. Among those charged included Gambino associate Franco Lupoi and Bonanno associate Charles "Charlie Pepsi" Centaro.



March 2015 - Operation Columbus targeted Gregorio Gigliotti (an 'Ndrangheta associate who had allegedly received funding for his drug operation from Genovese captain Anthony "Rom" Romanello). Gigliotti was connected to the Alvaro clan (who in turn also had connections to the Schirripa clan mentioned above.)

[slimshady_007]

I would love to know the level of Calabrian activity in the states ( both legal and illegal ) and what US famalies they partner with . How would the West Side respond to $ making partner opportunities with them ?

Sergi said they work mainly with the Gambino and Genovese families, as well as the Bonanno family to a lesser extent.

Below are the Ndrangheta related cases we've seen in New York over the past decade. The cases involving the Genovese family seem to be them providing protection and/or financing. What's interesting is all the West Side cases are connected to Federici or people around him like Romanello who took over his crew.



September 2008 - Project Reckoning/Operation Solare case targeted the Gulf and Zeta cartels in Mexico and the Ndrangheta. The Aquino-Coluccio clan and the Schirripa clan were the Calabrian groups involved. One article reported that Vincenzo and Giulio Schirripa had ties to the Genovese family in New York and sought out it's protection in the operation. Interestingly, one of those charged in the case was Christopher Castellano, who had worked at a business owned by Genovese member Anthony "Tough Tony" Federici. Castellano was later shot and killed in Queens in October 2015.



February 2010 - 'Ndrangheta member Vincenzo Roccisano (who had been a major international drug trafficker in the 1980's and deported to Italy in 2002) was arrested and charged with illegal entry into the U.S. He was reportedly affiliated with the Schirripa clan and had ties to Tough Tony Federici.



February 2014 - Operation New Bridge case targeted the Ndrangheta working with the Mexicans to smuggle cocaine to Europe and heroin to the U.S. The Ursino clan was the specific Calabrian group involved and was said to have ties to the Aquino-Coluccio clan (involved in the 2008 case), as well as the Inzerillo, Spatola-Gambino families from Sicily. Among those charged included Gambino associate Franco Lupoi and Bonanno associate Charles "Charlie Pepsi" Centaro.



March 2015 - Operation Columbus targeted Gregorio Gigliotti (an 'Ndrangheta associate who had allegedly received funding for his drug operation from Genovese captain Anthony "Rom" Romanello). Gigliotti was connected to the Alvaro clan (who in turn also had connections to the Schirripa clan mentioned above.)

That case with Castellano is extremely strange. Could it possibly the west side whacked him?

[Wiseguy]

That case with Castellano is extremely strange. Could it possibly the west side whacked him?

I double checked and it appears the one killed in Queens was a different guy. Different ages. The one involved in Project Reckoning was 47 at the time of the arrests in 2008 and was the owner of the Queens nightclub Krystal's. So he'd be about 57 today. The one killed in Queens in 2010 was 41 at the time. Apologies, my mistake.

[slimshady_007]

That case with Castellano is extremely strange. Could it possibly the west side whacked him?

I double checked and it appears the one killed in Queens was a different guy. Different ages. The one involved in Project Reckoning was 47 at the time of the arrests in 2008 and was the owner of the Queens nightclub Krystal's. So he'd be about 57 today. The one killed in Queens in 2010 was 41 at the time. Apologies, my mistake.

Oh ok its ok

[Kash]

Probably a naive thought but I’m surprised Cammarano was so hands on. Acting boss with no insulation, speaking to shelved members, doing business with shelves members, etc... Sounds more like the normal duties of a soldier or capo.

[gohnjotti]

Probably a naive thought but I’m surprised Cammarano was so hands on. Acting boss with no insulation, speaking to shelved members, doing business with shelves members, etc... Sounds more like the normal duties of a soldier or capo.

Not to mention his brazen, public captains meetings that caused three of his captains to be arrested. The Bonannos were holding such get-togethers at restaurants and functions with 20+ made guys attending and being photographed by L.E.

[Cheech]

Sirkin May be the one with the landfills. I’m surprised he isn’t mentioned.

[Nicholas]

Anyone know anything about Cammarano's career in the Navy; other than him being a Submariner.