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Re: Any new made guys since 2010?

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B. wrote:I'd be curious if all of the families in NY are following the Genovese family in making members strip down and wear a bathrobe, with minimal attendance from other members.

Vinny Bascaino made new inductees strip to their underwear (if not naked) when he conducted making ceremonies. That was proably was just Basciano's thing rather than an actual change in procedure for the Bonannos.


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Pogo The Clown wrote:Wiseguy if it is not too much trouble can you re-post the lists of mob cases in Philly and NE over the last 15 years that you have posted in the past? Thanks.


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Since Wiseguy is busy ill help him out, just keep in mind that this is a couple years old so obviously its missing the most recent stuff.



NEW ENGLAND

In March 2000, 17 people, including New England LCN member Anthony Ascenzia Jr., were indicted in Connecticut on charges of running a sports bookmaking operation that handled $2.3 million in wagers in one 4-month period, as well as numbers, and distributing video poker machines from 1997 to 2000.

In October 2001, 7 people tied to the New England LCN, known as the "DeCologero Crew," including John DeCologero and Paul DeCologero, were indicted in Boston on charges of racketeering, cocaine trafficking, loansharking, robbery of rival drug dealers, weapons possession, and murder.

In September 2002, 6 people tied to the New England LCN, known as the "Mello Organization," including Timothy Mello, were indicted in Boston on charges of racketeering, cocaine and marijuana trafficking, robbery of rival drug dealers, witness tampering, obstruction of justice, extortion, running a bookmaking operation, and firearms offenses.

In December 2002, 18 people, including New England LCN member Anthony Rizzo, were indicted in Boston on charges of trafficking in cocaine and oxycodone.

In December 2002, 6 people, including New England LCN associate Joseph Settipane, were indicted in Boston on charges of keeping a place for illegal gambling, using the telephone for illegal gambling, and conspiracy to violate gaming laws involving a sports bookmaking operation that netted up to $500,000 a week, as well as a numbers operation.

In articles in November 2003, December 2006, and August 2008, it was reported that, despite being a "shell" or a "shadow" of the organization it once was, with dwindling membership - 20 to 25 active members in Boston, with 10 inactive or in prison, as well as a dozen or so members in Providence - (as well as a "substantial" number of associates) and it becoming harder to attract quality recruits, the New England LCN, under the leadership of boss, Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio, continued to be active in the traditional rackets of sports bookmaking, video poker, loansharking, extortion, and drug trafficking.

In December 2003, 2 New England LCN members, Frederick "The Neighbor" Simone and Vincent "Dee Dee" Gioacchini, were indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy, loansharking, money laundering, and extorting $500 to $1,000 monthly payments from a sports bookmaking operation.

In June 2004, 7 people, including New England LCN associate Scott Martinelli, were indicted in Stoneham, MA on charges of organizing and promoting gambling and possession of gambling aparatus involving a sports bookmaking operation that took in as much as $60,000 a week in profits; as well as conspiracy and possession involving cocaine and oxycodone trafficking.

In January 2005, as a result of an investigation into organized crime involvement in the Laborers International Union of North America and the local construction industry, 3 New England LCN members and associates, including captain Matthew "Matty" Guglielmetti, who was also a member of LIUNA Local 271, were indicted in Providence on charges of conspiracy to distribute 67 kilos of cocaine brought through Rhode Island en route to Canada.

In February 2005, 15 people, including New England LCN captain Joseph Achille, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running a sports bookmaking operation that took in over $500,000 in bets in the months leading up to the Superbowl, weapons possession, trafficking in prescription drugs, and assault conspiracy involving Laborers Union jobs.

In March 2005, New England LCN member, Alfred "Chippy" Scivola, was indicted in Connecticut on charges of extorting $4,000 a month from a strip club operator; in partnership with the Gambinos.

In April 2005, 13 people, including New England LCN associate Arthur Gianelli, were indicted in Boston on charges of racketeering, running a sports bookmaking operation using a Costa Rica wireroom, distributing video poker machines, money laundering through investments in legitimate businesses, extorting a bar and a restaurant, and arson.

In January 2006, 24 people, including New England LCN associates Raymond "Scarface" Jenkins and Richard Angell, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, organized criminal gambling and conspiracy involving a sports bookmaking operation in Rhode Island and Massachusetts , which took in $3 million a month in bets and layoffs, as well as possession of marijuana and vicodin with intent to deliver.

In April 2006, New England LCN member, Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent , was indicted in Providence on charges of collecting two seperate vig payments of $2,000 a week from loans to 2 men of $100,000 each.

In May 2006, New England LCN member William "Billy" Angelesco, who had been charged with the murder of a strip club owner in 2001, was indicted in Boston on charges of extortion and running a sports bookmaking operation. He had reportedly been moving in on the Medford rackets, involved in sports bookmaking and shaking down drug dealers.

In December 2006, New England LCN underboss, Carmen "The Cheese Man" DiNunzio, was indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy to maintain a gambling operation and extortion of other sports bookmaking operations.

In December 2006, 12 people, including New England LCN captain Edward "Carmine" Lato, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running of a sports bookmaking operation that took in over $675,000, as well as trafficking in marijuana, steroids, and vicodin.

In December 2006, 2 New England LCN associates, Edward and Elias Samia, were indicted in Worcester on charges of running a numbers and card game operation.

In March 2007, 3 people, including Domenic DiCenso, the son of a late New England LCN member Franceso DiCenzo, were indicted in Boston on charges of selling cocaine out a pizza shop and weapons possession.

In August 2007, 7 people, including Joseph Russo and Steven Contrada, were indicted in Medford on charges of conspiracy, organizing and promoting gambling, keeping a place to register bets, using a telephone for gambling purposes involving a sports bookmaking operation, as well as heroin possession.

In August 2007, New England LCN associate, Gene Giangrande, was indicted in Cambridge on charges of extortion, conspiracy, assault and battery, loansharking, and running a sports bookmaking operation.

In April 2008, 13 people, including former New England LCN soldier Vincent "The Animal" Ferrara, were indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy, using a telephone to register bets, and keeping a place to register bets involving running a sports bookmaking operation.

In May 2008, 3 people, including underboss Anthony "The Cheeseman" DiNunzio, were indicted in Boston on charges of attempted bribery to secure a $6 million construction contract in the "Big Dig" Project for $15,000 and 5% of the contract revenue.

In October 2008, 2 people, Nicholas Manocchio (the nephew of New England LCN Luigi "Baby Shanks" Manocchio and director of the Laborers New England Region Organizing Fund) and Gerald Diodati (a contractor) were indicted in Providence on charges of labor racketeering, bribery, and receiving kickbacks for contracts.

In November 2008, 25 people, including New England LCN associates Nicholas "Nicky" Pari and Gerlad "Gerry" Tillinghast, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running a bookmaking operation, trafficking in cocaine, marijuana, and vicodin, selling weapons, counterfeiting, and fencing stolen goods. In a follow-up case in February 2009, 30 additional people, including George Eunis and Donald St. Germain, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running a sports bookmaking operation, extortion, selling firearms, insurance fraud, and marijuana trafficking.

In December 2008, 10 people, including Jason McMahon and Michael Sepe, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running a sports bookmaking operation - which paid tribute to the New England LCN - that took in more than $400,000 in wagers in 2 months, as well as marijuana trafficking and weapons possession.

In December 2008, 11 people, including New England LCN captain Peter Limone, were indicted in Boston on charges of organizing a gambling syndicate involving a sports bookmaking operation, conspiracy, loansharking, and extorting payments from 4 unaffiliated sports bookmaking operations.

In December 2008, 9 people, some of whom had ties to the New England LCN, including Steven Contrada, were indicted in Boston on charges of organizing a gambling syndicate and conspiracy involving runnging a sports bookmaking operation.

In February 2009, New England member Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent was indicted in Providence on charges of murder conspiracy.

In April 2009, New England LCN member, Joseph "Junior" Pingaro, was indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy and tax evasion on income of $3 million.

In April 2009, 2 people, including New England LCN member, Darin Bufalino, were indicted in Salem on charges of robbing a landscaper of $11,000.

In June 2009, New England LCN associate, Edward Gravalese, was indicted in Woburn on charges of organizing and promoting a gambling syndicate, keeping a gaming house, and conspiracy to keep a gaming house involving illegal high-stakes poker games.

In July 2009, Robert Jeffe, a Wall Street broker with past ties LCN member Gennaro "Gerry" Anguilo, was charged by the SEC in New York with securities fraud involving funneling $1 billion in funds through his company, Cohmad Securities Crop., to ponzi scheme conman Bernard Madoff.

In February 2010, the wife and son of member Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent were indicted in Providence on charges of extorting tribute payments from local bookmakers for reportedly between $800,000 and $1.5 million from 1988 to 2009.

In May 2010, as well as a superseding indictment in October 2010, 31 people, including New England LCN captain Mark Rossetti and soldiers Darin Bufalino and Michael Prechillo, were indicted in Boston on charges conspiracy, heroin and marijuana trafficking, running a sports bookmaking operation, loansharking, extortion, illegal weapons possession, armed robbery, money laundering, perjury, and witness intimidation. In March 2011, 4 people, Joseph Giallanella, Michael Petrillo, Charles Davis, and Charles Toomajian, some of who had been previously charged, were indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy, larceny, and receiving stolen property involving $1.9 million that had been embezzled from a temp agency by Davis, and laundered by Toomajian, in order to pay gambling and loansharking debts to Giallanella and Petrillo.

In November 2010, 27 people, including New England LCN associates Joseph and Richard Tiberi, were indicted in Providence on charges of running a prescription drug trafficking ring that distributed oxycontin, oxycodone, percocet, and vicodin, conspiracy to deliver a controlled substance, possession with intent to deliver, soliciting another to commit a crime, an attempting to make an illegal bet.

In January 2011, and in superseding indictments in March 2011 and September 2011, and April 2012, 9 New England LCN members and associates, including former boss Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio, acting boss Anthony DiNunzio, captain Edward "Carmine" Lato, and soldier Alfred "Chippy" Scivola, were indicted in Rhode Island on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, extortion, and travel-in-aid of racketeering, involving monthly protection payments of $2,000 to $6,000 a month from local adult businesses from 1993 to 2011, including strip clubs such as the Cadillac Lounge, Satin Doll, Foxy Lady, Desire, and Cheaters, the Northeast Sales adult bookstore, as well as the extortion of $25,000 from an auto dealer.

In May 2011 and November 2011, 25 people, including New England LCN captain Edward "Carmine" Lato, and soldiers Frank "Bobo" Marrapese Jr. and Alfred "Chippy" Scivola, were indicted in Providence on charges of racketeering, conspiracy to commit extortion, loansharking, organized criminal gambling, sports bookmaking, illegal trafficking in prescription drugs, criminal solicitation, felony shoplifting, and marijuana possession.

In December 2011, it was reported in an affidavit by the Rhode Island PD that Patriarca associate Frederick "Freddy" Carrozza had netted over $2 million from the sale of a house, even though it was only valued at $900,000, by the buyer lying on a mortgage application and getting a $2.2 million mortgage; with the sale proceeds going to Carrozza.


PHILADELPHIA/SOUTH JERSEY

In January 2000, 11 people, including Philadelphia LCN acting boss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, underboss Steven "Handsome Steve" Mazzone, consigliere George Borgesi, and soldiers Frank Gambino and John Ciancaglini, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, extortion, running a sports bookmaking operation, cocaine trafficking, and forcing a partnership with a local ring that burglarized tractor trailers and sold stolen goods (toy train sets, bicycles, sweatsuits, computers, TV's, ceiling fans, watches, baby formula, etc.)

In March 2000 and in superseding case in October 2001, Camden Mayor Milton Milan, an assistant James Mathis, and Philadelphia LCN associate Daniel Daidone, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of conspiracy, fraud, and bribery related to bribery by former Philadelphia LCN boss Ralph Natale to receive city contracts.

In October 2000, 6 people, including Thomas Floriani, Richard Crossan and Frank Grabon, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of running a sports bookmaking operation that stretched from Philadelphia to New Jersey, utilized phones, fax machines, and tally bets and sheets that showed 200,000 wagers in excess of $15 million.

In February 2001, 21 people, including Philadelphia acting underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massimino, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, loansharking, trafficking in cocaine and diazepam, and running a $30 million dollar sports bookmaking operation that took in $50,000 to $100,000 a week in profits.

In March 2001 and in a superseding indictment in August 2001, 9 people, including Philadelphia LCN acting boss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, captain Vincent "Beeps" Centorino, associates Daniel D'Ambrosia, Joseph Servidio, Dominick "Tommy" DiNorscio, Raymond "Frenchie" Lepore, and Eugene "Little Gene" Wilson, as well as Gambino soldier Anthony Proto, Genovese associate Thomas DeMichael, and Lucchese associate Wayne Cross, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of racketeering, running a sports bookmaking operation that utilized a wireroom in Costa Rica, loansharking, extortion, ecstasy trafficking, and murder.

In September 2001, 34 video poker machines belonging to Philadelphia LCN acting boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi, acting underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massamino, and captain Anthony "Ant" Staino were seized in Philadelphia. It was reported later that an estimated 50-60 bars in South Philadelphia had the machines, each of which took in about $1,000 a week, totaling $2 -$3 million a year.

In February 2003, Philadelphia LCN acting boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi was banned from Atlantic City casinos by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission.

In May 2003, Philadelphia LCN associate Anthony "Tony Gags" Gagliardi was indicted in New Jersey on charges of trafficking in 5 kilos of cocaine.

In May 2003, 21 people including Steven Vento Jr., the son of the late Philadelphia LCN associate Steven "Steaky" Vento, were indicted in Florida on charges of racketeering and dealing in stolen property involving a stolen luxury car ring that used fake vin numbers, titles, etc. In March 2010, Vento and 3 other people were named in a federal complaint in Florida charging them with conspiracy to commit wire and mail fraud involving a multimillion dollar mortgage fraud scam.

In May 2004, the New Jersey Commission of Investigation released a report on organized crime in the state, which included a summary of the Philadelphia LCN family; traditionally operative in South Jersey, and said to have roughly 50 members (half of which were in prison) and 100 associates. Due to infighting, turncoats, and prosecutions over the past 25 years, the family was down to only a few street level crews involved in sports bookmaking, numbers, video poker machines, loansharking, extortion, drug trafficking (particularly meth), and general thievery; and appeared to lack the "wherewithal to mount any foray into the legitimate business world."

In August 2004, 7 people, including John Garbarino Jr. and Felix Ezzio (a bookie and drug dealer who had longstanding ties to the Philadelphia LCN), were indicted in New Jersey on charges of conspiracy and promoting gambling involving a sports bookmaking operation that stretched from a wireroom in South Philadelphia to South Jersey and took in as much as $60,000 in bets a day between July and December 2003.

In November 2005, Philadelphia LCN associate Eugene "Louie Turco" Bulgarino was banned from Atlantic City casinos by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission.

In February 2006, 3 people, Richard Tocchet, police officer James Harney, and James Ulmer, were indicted in New Jersey on charges conspiracy, money laundering, and official misconduct involving a sports bookmaking operation, which had ties to the Philadelphia LCN, that handled $1.7 million in bets over a 40 day period.

Following a criminal complaint filed in October 2006, in November 2007, Philadephia LCN member Vincent "Big Vince" Filipelli was indicted in New Jersey on charges of conspiracy, promoting gambling, possession of gambling records, possession of steroids, money laundering, and weapons possession.

In May 2006, 18 people, including Joseph and John Mastronardo, were indicted in Montgomery, PA on charges of conspiracy and running a multimillion sports bookmaking operation. In April 2010, the Mastronardos were indicted again in Montgomery, PA on charges of illegal gambling, money laundering (which authorities believed was tied to organized crime), and parole violation.

In November 2006, 2 people, including Philadelphia LCN associate, Damion Canalichio, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of trafficking in over 300 grams of cocaine.

In July 2007, Philadelphia LCN associates, Danilo Starita and Edward Wagner, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of conspiracy, theft by deception, promoting gambling, falsifying records, and possessing gambling records involving a gambling operations that took in thousands of dollars a week and netted at least $1,000 a day. In January 2008, they were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of mortgage fraud.

In February 2008, Philadelphia LCN associates John Catalano, Thomas Demilio, and Harry Elwell, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of conspiracy, tax fraud, loansharking and organizing a kickback scheme to obtain a roofing project contract.

In April 2008, 24 people, including Philadelphia LCN members Michael Lancellotti and Anthony Nicodemo, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of running a sports bookmaking operation out of an Atlantic City casino that handled $60 million in bets over a 20 month period, loansharking, and money laundering.

In May 2008, 9 people, including Michael O'Brien and Brad Pesin, were indicted in Philadephia on charges of running a sports bookmaking operation, which police believed was connected to the LCN, and that had handled $2.5 million in wagers.

In July 2008, 17 people, including Philadelphia LCN associates Louis "Bent Finger Louie" Monacello and Nicholas "Nicky the Hat" Cimino, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of running a sports bookmaking operation that took in $1 million a month, loansharking, solicitation to commit aggravated assualt, conspiracy to commit perjury, fencing stolen goods, and possession of a controlled substance with intent to deliver. In November 2010, police raided a South Philadelphia beer distributor, Chappy's Beer, Butts, and Bets, owned by local attorney, Gregory Quigley, who was involved in the 2008 case. In February 2011, it was reported that a grand jury was conducting an investigation into strip clubs, towing companies, the Licenses & Inspections Department of Philadelphia, and Chappy's Beer, Butts, and Bets.

In September 2008, 13 people, including the son of former Philadelphia LCN captain, Charles "Charlie White" Iannece, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of trafficking in $6.6 million of crystal methemphatamine.

In September 2008, a construction company owned by the cousin of former Philadelphia LCN acting boss, Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, applied to do work on Atlantic City casinos.

In October 2008, 14 people, including several contractors and Philadelphia LCN associate Anthony "Tony Nose" Iannuzzio, were indicted in Trenton, NJ on charges of fraud involving accepting money for home improvement jobs that were never completed. In December 2003, Iannuzzio had been indicted in Trenton on charges of operating an illegal waste disposal company.

In January 2009, 5 people, including Philadelphia LCN associate Michael Pacitti, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of running a theft ring at various country clubs that had stolen $100,000 in goods (laptops, IPods, TV's, jewelry, etc.) and attempting to make $25,000 in purchases from stolen credit cards.

In March 2009, former Hoboken parking utility director, John Corea and Philadelphia LCN associate, Brian Pettacio, were indicted in New Jersey on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, official misconduct, theft, and misapplication of government property involving a scheme to steal $1.7 million from the city's parking meters.

In July 2009, it was reported that, even with only about 20 active members on the street at the time, the Philadelphia LCN's total manpower of members and associates came to approixamately 150 men; and that the family continued to be involved in gambling, loansharking, and extortion.

In August 2009, it was reported that the Philadelphia LCN, under the leadership of acting boss, Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi, was more "quieter, more discipined, and smaller" than in the past, with about 20 active members on the street compared to 60 total members in the late 1960's. The family focused mainly on illegal gambling, loansharking, and extortion and kept it's narcotics involvment to mostly financing a drug dealer's entry into the business for a one-time kickback. It had also simply stopped taking the bets of gamblers who didn't pay rather than resorting to assault. Despite it's lower profile, even to the point where some had written it off, a May 2011 article reported that the recent LCN bust had showed the Philadelphia LCN was "alive and well."

In September 2009, 50 video poker machines tied to the Philadelphia LCN were seized in raids on 13 establishments in Philadelphia.

In October 2010, it was reported that a news stand that sells state lottery tickets outside of one of South Philadelphia 's sports bars was owned by the wife of Philadelphia LCN member John "Johnny Chang" Ciancaglini.

In November 2010, 13 people, including local body shop owner Phillip Sessa, were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of insurance fraud, theft by deception, receiving stolen property, false reports to law enforcement, criminal use of a communications facility, false reports, deceptive business practices, criminal mischief, corrupt organization, criminal conspiracy, and operating a chop chop involving an insurance fraud and theft ring that damaged vehicles and then submitted over $300,000 in 22 fraudulent claims to insurance companies in order to receive payments for repairs. Some of those involved used the money to pay off loanshark debts or did free car repairs to pay off gambling debts to LCN figures such as Anthony "Ant" Staino.

In January 2011, and superseding indictments in May 2011 and April 2012, 14 people, including Philadelphia LCN acting boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi, underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massamino, consigliere George "Georgie" Borgesi, captains Anthony "Ant" Staino and Joseph "Scoops" Licata, and soldiers Martin "Marty" Angelina, Gaeton "Gate" Lucibello, Eric Esposito, and Louis "Big Lou" Fazzini, were charged in Philadelphia with racketeering, conspiracy, running a sports bookmaking operation, distributing video poker machines through JMA Industries in bars, restaurants, convenience stores, coffee shops, etc. - 86 of which were seized, loansharking, extortion of a rival video poker business by forcing it to sell it's machines at over 20 locations in May 2001, extortion of unaffiliated bookmakers, witness tampering, aiding and abetting, obstruction of justice, as well as theft from the IBT employee benefit plan through a $50,000 a year "no show" job Ligambi had with Top Job Disposal; which was cited in the December 2011 New Jersey Commission of Investigation report on ongoing organized crime involvement in the solid waste and unregulated recycling industry in New Jersey. In addition to his the trash hauling business, it was also reported that Ligambi had hidden interests in real estate and a towing company. It was also reported that Licata had conspired to get Fazzini a "no show" job through the Gambino's union connections.

In April 2011, it was reported that as part of an ongoing investigation into a drug dealing operation involving the illegal sale of prescription medications such as oxycodone, percocet, etc. and loansharking connected to Philadelphia LCN underboss Joseph "Mousie" Massimino, search warrants were executed at the homes of several members of the Pagan Motorcyle Gang, such as Joseph "The Goat" Ferrari, and LCN ssociates such as Nicky Volpe; as well as a bar where video poker machines had been seized.

In June 2011, it was reported that a South Philadelphia auto-body-shop owner and bookie and loanshark, Rocco Maniscalco, was killed in 2010 for not paying the street tax to representatives of George Borgesi.

In February 2012, it was reported through leaked law enforcement records that former Philadelphia LCN acting boss, Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, may be in the process of setting up operations in the Miami, FL area and forming a crew that included Phillip "Disney" McFillin and John "Jack" Manfredi, who was operating a gambling website called Getitnow.com, as well as looking for investors in ATM's he wanted to install in strip clubs and massage parlors. Although having a job at a flooring company, the report stated Merlino had become involved in gambling activities again and was maintaining contact with former acting underboss, Steven "Handsome Steve" Mazzone in Philadelphia. Also, the report stated an unnamed associate of Merlino was in the process of purchasing a $1 million home and a Rolls Royce for Merlino. In May 2012, it was alleged in a detention memo that Merlino was the official boss of the Philadelphia LCN, as he had been while incarcerated.

In February 2012, 2 people, Philadelphia LCN soldier Robert Gentile, and associate Andrew Parente, were indicted in Connecticut on charges of felony possession of guns, explosives, silencers, other weapons, cash, drugs, and phony ID documents.

In May 2012, it was reported that authorities had filed a forfeiture seizure for nearly $180,000 that had been discovored in the backpack of William "Billy" Coyman, a former Teamster in Philadelphia, after he had collapsed at Manhattan train station the previous summer. It was alleged the money was part of a drug operation and that Coyman had been employed by 180 Entertainment Inc., which was owned by Anthony Fedele Jr., a known associate of Philadelphia LCN boss Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino, and Joseph Burke, a convicted a convicted bank robber and drug trafficker from Boston
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then you when you look at the most recent cases out of Detroit there really is no comparison, again this is all wiseguys work-

DETROIT

In January 2001, it was found that an official of IBT Union Local 614, Michael Bane, had lied about his past ties to Detroit LCN figures such as Vincent Meli, Vito Giacalone, and Anthony LaPiana Jr.

In July 2005, Mark Cocchiola and Steven Venchanos were indicted in New Jersey on charges of bank fraud, securities fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud involving what Cocchiola would later claim to be a "Mafia bust out" of their cheese company Suprema Specialties, by the Detroit LCN, specifically Jack Gaglio who owned 4 companies that were Suprema's biggest customers. The charges alleged the value of the company had been inflated in order to obtain millions of dollars in credit from banks and attract investors. The SEC also filed a civil complaint citing they took $5.8 million in stock profits out of the company before it collapsed.

In March 2006, 15 people, including Detroit LCN members Peter Tocco, Dominick Corrado, and Jack Giacalone, were indicted in Detroit on charges of racketeering, running a multimillion dollar sports bookmaking operation, loansharking, and money laundering through a used car business.

In May 2009, 8 people, including Mitchel Karam, who had past ties to the Detroit LCN, and Ghazzi Mani,were indicted in Detroit on charges of conspiracy to commit bribery and wire fraud involving a point shaving scheme for sports betting purposes.

In May 2011, Giuseppe and Girolamo D'Anna, the great-nephews of the late Detroit LCN member Anthony "Tony Cars" D'Anna and owners of the Tiramisu Restaurant, were indicted in Detroit on charges of assault with intent to murder, extortion, and witness intimidation involving the beating of a rival restaurant owner.
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Many thanks for these Dellacroce. 8-) As we can see there is still a lot of LCN activity in Philly/South Jersey and New England.


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Thanks for all the great info guys!!!!


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A lot of money and activity, more then I thought.
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rayray wrote:A lot of money and activity, more then I thought.
yeah I mean the mob is not in its hey day but when people say the mob is dead and there is no money left to be made.... Those people are uneducated and idiots who don't see the big picture


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You can also add these ones. Italicized ones involve cases where the mob-connection, if any, is unclear.


New England

In February 2013, New England LCN associate Enrico Ponzo was indicted in Boston, MA on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, marijuana trafficking, unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, money laundering, and murder during the 1990's.

In March 2013, Louis Marchetti was indicted in Providence, RI on charges of breaking and entering, reckless driving, and eluding police involving a crew associated with recent burglaries. Marchetti had been part of an LCN-connected burglary ring in the 1990's that was responsible for hundreds of break-ins and the theft of as much as $10 million in jewelry, cash, and merchandise; much of which was laundered through the Golden Nugget pawn shop. 44 people were charged in 1996, including New England LCN boss Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio. In November 2013, another member of the burglary ring, Michael Rossi, as well as Leonard Dias and Dino Gomes, were indicted in Providence, RI on charges of unlawful breaking and entering of 22 homes, robbery, larceny, larceny of a firearm, receiving stolen goods, weapons possession, and resisting arrest.

In August 2013, it was reported that Armand Sabitoni (who had been named in the 1994 draft complaint involving the LCN and LIUNA) continued to be the treasurer of LIUNA, making $436,000 a year, and had 2 relatives on staff and 5 more as official of Laborers locals; including Michael Sabitoni Jr. who was president of the Rhode Island Building & Construction Trades Council and chairman of of the Laborer's Rhode Island pension, health care, and annuity funds.

In October 2013, it was reported that New England LCN soldier Joseph Ruggiero Sr., after a $3.2 million investment, had become the new owner of the well known Fall River Ford auto dealership and was subsequently voted on the Fall River Office of Economic Development.

In February 2014, 13 people including David Ayotte, Jason Faoford, Michael Massa, Dennis Gentile, and Thomas Ruo were indicted in Providence County, RI on charges of conspiracy, organized criminal gambling, and bookmaking involving a sports bookmaking operation. (LCN connected?)

In October 2014, Charles Lightbody (a New England LCN associate), Dustin DeNunzio, and Anthony Gattineri, were indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy, wire fraud, and aiding and abetting involving involving an scheme to hide the interests of a convicted felon (Lightbody) in a parcel of land (owned by FBT Everett Realty LLC) from Wynn Resorts and state gaming regulators where a resort casino had been proposed. They were also charged in a state indictment with conspiracy, impeding a gaming investigation, tampering with evidence, as well as assault and battery involving Lightbody punching Louis Ciarlone (business manager of IBEW Local 23) at a pro-casino rally in October 2013.

In October 2014, New England LCN acting boss Anthony "Spucky" Spagnolo and soldier Pryce "Stretch" Quintana were indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy to interfere with commerce by extortion involving extortion of tens of thousands of dollars from Constitution Vending Company (which leased video gambling machines to local social clubs and bars in Revere and East MA, including the Revere Moose Lodge), from 1994 through 2012.

In October 2014, Louis DiNunzio (son of former New England acting boss Anthony DiNunzio), Joseph Spagnuolo-Kazonis, John Woodman, and Robert Fitzpatrick were indicted in Boston on charges of conspiracy with intent to distribute and possess with intent to distribute over 50 kilos of marijuana.




Philadelphia

In August 2012, 16 people including Joseph Matronardo Jr., John Mastronardo, Joanna Mastronardo (daughter of late Philadelphia police commissioner and mayor Frank Rizzo), and Genovese associate Michael Squillante, were indicted in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, conducting an illegal gambling business, transmission of wagering information, money laundering (over $500,000 in checks through Joseph and Anna Rose Vitelli's J&A Check Cashing), structuring, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering involving a multi-million sports bookmaking operation that stretched from Montgomery County, PA to Florida, had over 1,000 bettors, and utilized telephone and websites based in Costa Rica.

In December 2012, it was reported that recently released Philadelphia LCN soldier Philip Narducci and his sister (Susan Baldino) were seeking to open up a pawn shop and check cashing store next to their other business, Philip's Steaks. The previous April, it had been reported that Narducci was involved in his nephew's (Joseph Baldino) Encore nightclub. The family also continued to run it's Phillip's Steaks sandwich shop, which had been in business since 1979.

In December 2012, Philadelphia LCN associate Gino DiPietro was shot and killed by soldier Anthony Nicodemo in Philadelphia while getting out of his truck. Nicodemo was subsequently charged in March 2013 with conspiracy, weapons possession, and murder. DiPietro had been arrested in 2004 for cocaine distribution and agreed to wear a wire. His step-cousin, Nicodemo "Nicky Slick" DiPietro had been talking about having him killed and how he had informed on his little brother Victor, who was the godson of former boss Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo and serving a life sentence for murder.

In October 2013, Anthony Gifoli, Frank Tulino, Vincent Simoni (who had been involved in a 1988 LCN-connected gambling bust), and James Matteis, were indicted in Philadelphia, PA on charges of conducting an illegal gambling businesses involving a sports bookmaking operation.

In October 2013, it was reported that Philadelphia LCN associate Angelo "Fat Angelo" Lutz had opened an Italian eatery in New Jersey (Camden) called the Kitchen Consigliere. In December 2014, it was reported that Lutz had made a deal with the QVC network to sell a series of food products from his restaurant.

In December 2013, it was reported that the city of Philadelphia revoked it's contract with an auto body shop owned by Philadelphia LCN associate Ronald Galati (American Collission & Automotive Center) after his alleged involvement in a triple-murder plot (where he was charged with solicitation of murder) related to an ongoing insurance fraud investigation. In May 2014, 41 people including Galati, Ronald Galati Jr. and Steven Ligambi were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of corrupt organizations, dealing in proceeds of unlawful activities, conspiracy, insurance fraud, theft by deception, bid rigging, securing execution of documents by deception, obstruction of government functions, tampering with public records, and receiving stolen property involving a nearly $5 million insurance scam involving false insurance claims.

In January 2014, Leonard Stango was indicted in Philadelphia on charges of structuring financial transactions and filing false tax returns involving $5 million in profits from a sports bookmaking operation. (LCN connected?)

In June 2014, Tonino Irace, Canio Pascale, and Zoheir Mouloudj were indicted in Philadelphia on charges of illegal liquor sales after illegal speakeasies at Cafe Italia and Mediterranean's of South Philly were raided. (Ligambi said to be on site?)

In March 2015, Ralph "Sharkey" Sabatini and Valerio "Val" Ungarini were indicted in Bucks County, PA on charges of corrupt organization, dealing in unlawful proceeds, criminal use of a facility, and engaging in bookmaking involving a sports bookmaking operation. (LCN connected?)




Detroit

In August 2013, Vito Parisi (a former associate of Detroit LCN turncoat Nove Tocco) was indicted in Macomb, MI on charges of manufacturing and delivering marijuana.

In summer 2014, Detroit LCN associates Thomas "Tommy the Lackey" Mackey and Kenny Green were indicted in Detroit on charges of illegal gambling involving a sports bookmaking operation that utilized the website betchopper.com




New Jersey

In March 2000, New Jersey LCN associates Arthur McCarthy, Franceso Paparatto, and Pat Dwyer were indicted in New Jersey (Essex) on charges of racketeering, loansharking, extortion, mail fraud, and theft on construction sites from 1994 to 1999.

In April 2000, Steven Barnes, a member of IBT Local 456, (construction - Westchester), son of Local 456 attorney Roy Barnes, and employee of Valenti Industries (which was controlled by the DeCavalcantes) was expelled from the union for 2 years for financial misconduct involving him having a shame membership with the union.

In September 2000, S&S Contracting, owned by Sean Richard (son-in-law of New Jersey LCN boss John "The Eagle" Riggi), was one of several companies named in an indictment in the Southern District against Lucchese acting boss Steven "Wonder Boy" Crea, several other Lucchese members and associates, as well as several union officials and contractors. S&S Contracting was specifically accused of paying a $10,000 bribe to Carpenters Union Local 608 secretary-treasurer Michael Forde in return for employing only 6 Local 608 carpenters while employing another 24 off the books, thereby bilking the union out of $20,000 a week.

In an March 2001 superseding indictment, following previous indictments in December 1999 and October 2000, 62 people including New Jersey LCN boss John "The Eagle" Riggi, ruling panel members Vincent "Vinny Ocean" Palermo, Girolamo "Jimmy" Palermo and Charles "Fat Charles" Majuri, consigliere Stefano "Steve" Vitable, captains Philip Abramo, Francesco "Frank" Polizzi, Giuseppe "Pino" Schifilliti, Anthony Rotundo, and Joseph Giacobbe, and soldiers Joseph "Tin Ear" Sclafani, Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo, Anthony "Marshmellow" Mannarino, Gregory Rago, Joseph Collina Sr., Frank D'Amato, and Simone "Daddy" Palermo, were indicted in the Southern District on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, running the Wiggles strip club, running a sports bookmaking and loansharking operation with the Gambinos and Colombos that netted $2.5 million, extortion of businesses including a bus company (Manti Transportation), labor bribery involving kickbacks from contractors in the construction industry through no-show jobs and sweetheart deals with LIUNA Locals 394 (building contractors) and 1030 (asbestos removal), securities fraud, truck hijacking, selling stolen goods (2,250 cases of wine, clothes, 29,000 packages of vitamins, 56 digital copiers, toner, and Kraft food), selling counterfeit goods, selling stolen US savings bonds, the $1.6 million robbery from an armored truck at the World Trade Center, attempted robbery of a payroll office, tax fraud, mail fraud, obstruction of justice, and murder.

In October 2002, it was reported that Mazzochi Wrecking (later Maztec Environmental Inc.) was ordered to stop it's demolition work on the Resorts Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, NJ after it was found the company was employing operations manager Charles DiMaria and laborer Frank Nigro, who were associates of the New Jersey LCN. In April 2003, Mazzochi was cleared to continue work after DiMaria and Nigro were no longer working for the company. In December 2005, it was reported that the New Jersey LCN, along with the New York LCN families, had obtained millions of dollars in World Trade Center clean up contracts through affiliated companies (including Mazzochi Wrecking).

In May 2003, it was reported that recent cases had shown the New Jersey LCN's control over local labor unions in the construction industry "had slipped," LCN members were actually having to work when their names came up on union rolls, and it was becoming harder to form relationships between corrupt union leaders and contractors.

In July 2003, New Jersey LCN soldier Mimmo Marzullo and associates Michael Ferrente and Keith Cimera, were indicted in New Jersey (Essex) on charges of running a sports bookmaking operation, loansharking, and cashing over $170,000 in stolen checks from a gambler in their debt.

In May 2004, the New Jersey Commission of Investigation released a report entitled "The Changing Face of Organized Crime in New Jersey," which included a summary of the New Jersey LCN family, based in Peterstown section of Elizabeth, NJ, which was said to have approximately 40 members and at least 50 associates. However, many of those members were incarcerated and the group was said to be undergoing reorganization and re-entrenchment at the hands of a "skeleton crew" of non-indicted members. Previously, in September 2000, the New Jersey LCN family was reported to be the weakest in the region, often relying on cooperation with the New York families, and specialized in labor rackets.

In June 2005, the New York Business Integrity Commission denied an operating license to Carvente Corp. (a seafood company) due to the company's sole principal, Phillip Caracappa, having ties to New Jersey LCN soldier Joseph "Tin Ear" Sclafani and associate Stephen Arancio, and being indicted in December 1999 for conspiring and attempting to sell stolen U.S. savings bonds.

In February 2006, LIUNA Local 394 (Building Contractors - Union County, NJ), which had been known as the "life blood" and "cash cow" of the New Jersey LCN family, was put under federal trusteeship due to ongoing corruption and organized crime influence that had involved providing officer positions, union employment, and preferential job referrals to DeCavalcante members and associates, extortion of contractors through violence and labor problems, forcing union members to kickback a percentage of their wages to work on certain job sites, as well as controlling the benefit funds.

In February 2010, New Jersey LCN acting boss Francesco "Frank" Guaracci and associates Michael Nobile and John Koster, were indicted in New Jersey (Warren) on charges of conspiracy and extorting a pizza shop.

In January 2011, New Jersey LCN soldiers Jerry Balzano and Joseph Colina were indicted in the Eastern District on charges of racketeering, conspiracy, possession of contraband cigarettes, receipt of stolen tax refund checks, and loansharking.

In August 2011, the New York Business Integrity Commission denied an operating license to Cara Seafood Express due to the company's sole principal, John Chirachella, having ties to New Jersey LCN associate Phillip Caracappa.

In December 2011, the New Jersey Commission of Investigation issued a report entitled "Industrious Subversion: Circumvention of Oversight in Solid Waste & Recycling" in New Jersey on ongoing organized crime involvement in the solid waste industry in New Jersey, which had dated back as early as the late 1960's, as well as the unregulated recycling industry. Because of systematic flaws, a too narrow definition of who should be barred, indirect non-licensed involvement being allowed, inadequate funding, and inefficient enforcement, banned LCN members and associates, including over 30 identified by the Commission, were currently engaged in the solid waste and/or recycling industry in the state through legitimate front companies, including ones operated by relatives with clean records, as well as owners of real estate and/or equipment leased to licensed waste companies. Individuals cited included New Jersey LCN associates Steven Marcus of I.T.L Concrete Recycling, Circus Rubbish Removal, Ace Materials & Trucking, Ltd., and Roman Sand & Stone, LLC, and Vincent Alessi, of Duramix Concrete Corp., Bayone Durable Construction Co., and Hudson Keystone Express LLC.

In January 2013, Kevin Latham had his waterfront license revoked for promoting gambling involving an illegal gambling operation, connected to the New Jersey LCN and run by Dennis Costello, involving a "pick 6" lottery that included thousands of bettors in New Jersey and jackpots ranging from $30,000 to $40,000.

In April 2013, New Jersey LCN associate Phlip Gurian was among 40 people indicted or charged in criminal complaints in Albany, NY and Oklahoma, OK with enterprise corruption, conspiracy, money laundering, and transmission of wagering information involving a sports bookmaking operation (Legendz Sports) that utilized the internet and offshore wire rooms, stretching to several U.S. states, Panama, and other offshore locations. Guirian, a multi-millionaire real estate developer, had previously been convicted in a stock scam involving New Jersey LCN captain Philip Abramo in July 1999 and hit with a $150 million civil arrest order in December 2007.

In March 2015, 10 New Jersey LCN members and associates, including consigliere Frank "Shipe" Nigro, captain Charles "Beeps" Stango, and associates Paul "Knuckles" Colella, Anthony "Whitey" Stango, John "Johnny Balls" Capozzi, Mario Galli, Nicholas Degidio, Mario Pali, James Heeney, and Luigi Oliveri, were charged in 3 criminal complaints in New Jersey with conspiracy to operate a high-end escort service (in Ocean County) that would cater to white collar businessmen and professionals, distribution of over $100,000 in cocaine, purchase of 12 cases of contraband cigarettes (worth $16,200 in unpaid taxes), and conspiracy to hire 2 biker gang members for $25,000 to kill New Jersey LCN soldier Luigi "Dog" Oliveri. The criminal complaint also reported that the New Jersey LCN "operated under the Gambino Family."
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Wiseguy wrote:When it comes to Detroit, you had 29 members cited by the feds back in 1996. 30 members were cited in a 2001 article. And Scott B cited 25 in his book in 2006. But also keep in mind that over 20 members/possible members have died since 2000. Even if the family has made new members over the time frame, and "rumors" Scott has heard is all I've read on that, it's doubtful it's been anywhere near enough to balance out the ones who have died. So to say that Detroit has even 30 total members, much less active members, is a real stretch.

Pete, you bring up what you perceive to be the lack of cases in Philadelphia but apparently ignore the real lack of cases in Detroit. The last significant bust was almost a decade ago now. Before that you have to go back another decade to 1996. Ligambi being acquitted in the latest case is beside the point. You had the acting boss, acting underboss, 4 captains, and several more soldiers and associates indicted. In 2008, you had the Monacello case where 17 people were indicted. Another mob bookmaking case that year where 9 people were indicted. And the big Borgata casino case where 24 people were indicted. I could name others.

And I don't know why people keep thinking New England is dead. The Providence faction has been decimated in recent years but, prior to that, there was quite a bit of activity both in Providence and Boston. We've seen the boss and two acting bosses indicted just since 2011 in Providence and Boston, respectively. That same year 25 people, including a captain and two soldiers, were indicted in another Providence case. 31 people, including a captain and two soldiers, were indicted in Boston in 2010. In December 2008, 20 people, including the reported acting boss, were indicted in Boston. Two connected cases in Providence in 2008 and 2009 brought the arrest of 25 and 30 people, respectively. That same year, you had the nephew of the boss, who was the director of the Laborers Union New England Organizing Fund, and an associate indicted Providence. You also had the underboss indicted in Boston. And you had 13 people indicted in another Boston case.

Both the Philadelphia and New England families are said to have 40-50 total members each, as well as around 100 associates each. We've seen ongoing mob cases in both areas. The same can't be said for Detroit. At best, it can arguably be said Detroit is even one of the remaining viable families left. There just isn't any real evidence to put it on the same level as Philadelphia, New England, or New Jersey for that matter.

When people talk about "remnants," that can simply mean anywhere there are still made members still alive. There are still living members in Buffalo/Rochester, NE Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, St. Louis, Kansas City, Tampa, New Orleans, Denver, and Los Angeles. Possibly Milwaukee as well. However that doesn't mean there are any families there that are still structured or active enough to be acknowledged by the FBI. At least as far back as 2000, and again in 2004, the feds were citing only 9 families left. Some other reported over that same time frame have also mentioned Detroit so, at best, it's debatable about that family.

When people rely on only the latest case they can remember, it just doesn't provide an adequate view of the recent activity of a mob family.
Lol now Detroit isn't viable with a full leadership structure in place and 4 crews your losing credibility with comments like that
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Pete wrote:Lol now Detroit isn't viable with a full leadership structure in place and 4 crews your losing credibility with comments like that
We've been through this many times before. What's our source for that full leadership structure and 4 crews? One guy - Scott B. While not discounting the good information he does provide, let's not forget he's the same one that, on an almost annual basis, has given us internet charts that show the family increasing in size. I think the last chart of his I saw there were almost 60 members listed. But where's the indictments? Why don't we see the same amount of mob activity in Detroit that we see in some of the other cities outside of NY that still have families? Many, including yourself, have tried to come up with reasons for that but none of them hold any water. I'm not saying there aren't still active mob guys in Detroit and there is some structure in place. But I've never believed it's as big, hierarchical, strong, or active as Scott portrays it to be. And there's no evidence to prove me wrong.
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Wiseguy wrote:
Pete wrote:Lol now Detroit isn't viable with a full leadership structure in place and 4 crews your losing credibility with comments like that
We've been through this many times before. What's our source for that full leadership structure and 4 crews? One guy - Scott B. While not discounting the good information he does provide, let's not forget he's the same one that, on an almost annual basis, has given us internet charts that show the family increasing in size. I think the last chart of his I saw there were almost 60 members listed. But where's the indictments? Why don't we see the same amount of mob activity in Detroit that we see in some of the other cities outside of NY that still have families? Many, including yourself, have tried to come up with reasons for that but none of them hold any water. I'm not saying there aren't still active mob guys in Detroit and there is some structure in place. But I've never believed it's as big, hierarchical, strong, or active as Scott portrays it to be. And there's no evidence to prove me wrong.
I guess my point is there is not a huge difference between Phillys 20 active guys and a family like Detroit. Some difference? Maybe but for the most part all of the families outside of NY are on the same page. Philly is not growing like one poster said and neither is any other. They are all still retracting and to deny that wise guy is to deny the facts
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Pete wrote:I guess my point is there is not a huge difference between Phillys 20 active guys and a family like Detroit.
i disagree. i think if you take 20 random guys from both families, the amount of street level activity is far greater in philly. the guys left in detroit seem to focus far more on operating legit businesses that may rely on underworld connections from time to time to get a leg up as opposed to street level rackets. the cases, or lack thereof, over the last 15 or so years support this outlook. it's alot easier to stay "under the radar" when you have alot less to hide.
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Pete wrote:
Wiseguy wrote:
Pete wrote:Lol now Detroit isn't viable with a full leadership structure in place and 4 crews your losing credibility with comments like that
We've been through this many times before. What's our source for that full leadership structure and 4 crews? One guy - Scott B. While not discounting the good information he does provide, let's not forget he's the same one that, on an almost annual basis, has given us internet charts that show the family increasing in size. I think the last chart of his I saw there were almost 60 members listed. But where's the indictments? Why don't we see the same amount of mob activity in Detroit that we see in some of the other cities outside of NY that still have families? Many, including yourself, have tried to come up with reasons for that but none of them hold any water. I'm not saying there aren't still active mob guys in Detroit and there is some structure in place. But I've never believed it's as big, hierarchical, strong, or active as Scott portrays it to be. And there's no evidence to prove me wrong.
I guess my point is there is not a huge difference between Phillys 20 active guys and a family like Detroit. Some difference? Maybe but for the most part all of the families outside of NY are on the same page. Philly is not growing like one poster said and neither is any other. They are all still retracting and to deny that wise guy is to deny the facts
if a family is making new guys they are growing not shrinking..... That's common sense with anything.... Maybe not growing at a extraordinary rate or even where they once were...why do you keep sticking up for Detroit? They have no where near the activity that Philly does. It's like when people say there is nothing left and nothing to make money off of... Apparently you have never been in any kind of criminal element, criminals will always find a way to make money. There is plenty of money to be made.


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We've been through this many times before. What's our source for that full leadership structure and 4 crews? One guy - Scott B. While not discounting the good information he does provide, let's not forget he's the same one that, on an almost annual basis, has given us internet charts that show the family increasing in size. I think the last chart of his I saw there were almost 60 members listed. But where's the indictments? Why don't we see the same amount of mob activity in Detroit that we see in some of the other cities outside of NY that still have families? Many, including yourself, have tried to come up with reasons for that but none of them hold any water. I'm not saying there aren't still active mob guys in Detroit and there is some structure in place. But I've never believed it's as big, hierarchical, strong, or active as Scott portrays it to be. And there's no evidence to prove me wrong.[/quote]

I guess my point is there is not a huge difference between Phillys 20 active guys and a family like Detroit. Some difference? Maybe but for the most part all of the families outside of NY are on the same page. Philly is not growing like one poster said and neither is any other. They are all still retracting and to deny that wise guy is to deny the facts[/quote]if a family is making new guys they are growing not shrinking..... That's common sense with anything.... Maybe not growing at a extraordinary rate or even where they once were...why do you keep sticking up for Detroit? They have no where near the activity that Philly does. It's like when people say there is nothing left and nothing to make money off of... Apparently you have never been in any kind of criminal element, criminals will always find a way to make money. There is plenty of money to be made.


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No actually common sense says to be growing they have to make more members than they are losing that's why I find it hard to be they are growing there's no family in the U.S. growing but philly is? And how can philly be growing when their membership is down? Sorry I don't buy it but we can agree to disagree. It's not a knock on philly all the families are in the same boat cosa nostra is not getting stronger in any city
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The Bonnaos are growing they are making new guys like crazy


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