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If Leonetti was an informant early on, Scarfo would have been indicted well before '87.
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Interesting facts gleaned from file:
-in 1981 there was a mob member connected to Milwaukee.
-Page 96, "(redacted) and is Merlino's cousin. Who is Yogi Merlino's cousin?
-Larry Zannino (Patriarca) & Al Bruno (Springfield) were both organizing
gambling junkets to A.C. Jerry Anguilo loaning monies to the gamblers.
-We now know that Phil Leonetti was a CI as far back as 1981. I do not
recall Leonetti EVER exposing that fact in any of the interviews/books
he has done.
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Chucky wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:31 am If Leonetti was an informant early on, Scarfo would have been indicted well before '87.
I agree with Chucky , Scarfo was a borderline serial killer in the 80s no way they keep him on the streets if his #2 guy is a CI.
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i dont have any info on whether phil was a ci long before he flipped..and from what i know i dont think its true..BUT...NJ, far as him being involved with a serial killer , where it makes sense, look no further to whitey and stevie up here, they kept the people (matarano etal) out of harms way for decades until they couldnt..federal goverment will do as it pleases until it no longer has value, so my point is, just cuz nicky stayed on the streets for 8 years as a despot, doesnt mean phil wasnt a ci
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TJ wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:13 am i dont have any info on whether phil was a ci long before he flipped..and from what i know i dont think its true..BUT...NJ, far as him being involved with a serial killer , where it makes sense, look no further to whitey and stevie up here, they kept the people (matarano etal) out of harms way for decades until they couldnt..federal goverment will do as it pleases until it no longer has value, so my point is, just cuz nicky stayed on the streets for 8 years as a despot, doesnt mean phil wasnt a ci
True, you’re 100% right. You know what it is, I keep on wanting to give our government the benefit of the doubt because after all I live here in America, but then I’m constantly reminded how low they will stoop when it comes to rats and not playing by the rules....
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The quote I put up:
"-Page 96, "(redacted) and is Merlino's cousin." Who is Yogi Merlino's cousin?"
makes me think that it could be the Merlino's cousin that was the CI. If we
can figure out who the cousin is, we might be able to narrow it down.

The reason I think it could be Leonetti, is because the redacted name is always mentioned
along with Scarfo and Yogi. Leonetti's name rarely is mentioned. We know Leonetti
was always walking around Scarfo & Yogi.
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TJ wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:13 am i dont have any info on whether phil was a ci long before he flipped..and from what i know i dont think its true..BUT...NJ, far as him being involved with a serial killer , where it makes sense, look no further to whitey and stevie up here, they kept the people (matarano etal) out of harms way for decades until they couldnt..federal goverment will do as it pleases until it no longer has value, so my point is, just cuz nicky stayed on the streets for 8 years as a despot, doesnt mean phil wasnt a ci
I'm leaning toward this line of thought as well. Shit they kept Scarpa on the streets too. Maybe they kept Nicky on the street cause he was instrumental in Phil's own rise and they wanted Phil to reach a higher level so he could implicate more NY guys.
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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:39 am -We now know that Phil Leonetti was a CI as far back as 1981. I do not
recall Leonetti EVER exposing that fact in any of the interviews/books
he has done.
No, we don't. There's nothing in there to indicate that. Scarfo ordered a lot of killings early on and while he away on the gun charge that Leonetti was directly involved with. The feds also had issues getting Scarfo on tape, had Leonetti been cooperating that would not have been the case.
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I hear ya Chuck- difference here It doesn’t sound like they fully flipped this guy. It sounds like this mystery person came to the FBI on his own accord b/c “it was a huge weight off of his shoulders” and only acted as a confidential source rather than a wired up rat.
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Chucky wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:31 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:39 am -We now know that Phil Leonetti was a CI as far back as 1981. I do not
recall Leonetti EVER exposing that fact in any of the interviews/books
he has done.
No, we don't. There's nothing in there to indicate that. Scarfo ordered a lot of killings early on and while he away on the gun charge that Leonetti was directly involved with. The feds also had issues getting Scarfo on tape, had Leonetti been cooperating that would not have been the case.
If it wasn't Leonetti, who was it?
A certain name is consistently redacted, and Leonetti's name
does not show up hardly at all. That's why I think it COULD
be Leonetti. It could also be "Merlino's cousin" that is mentioned, whoever that is.
Who do you think it might be?
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The feds are scumbags, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they used someone like Phil and deliberately kept Scarfo on the streets longer so they could milk Phil for info about New York or something.

Chucky makes some good points against the idea of Phil being an informant though. And I don't see why Phil wouldn't have admitted it after he flipped.

Who the fuck knows?
Cuz da bullets don't have names.
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Cuz he didn’t want his uncle to know... he always makes it seem like he never hurt his uncle... like he flipped when his uncle was already sentenced and his only condition was he wouldn’t testify on his uncle blah blah blah
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PHL_Mob wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:33 am Cuz he didn’t want his uncle to know... he always makes it seem like he never hurt his uncle... like he flipped when his uncle was already sentenced and his only condition was he wouldn’t testify on his uncle blah blah blah
So why did he sit in the can for over a year while they were awaiting trial? The feds did not need Leonetti for information on New York, they already guys in New York wired up.
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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:42 am
Chucky wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:31 am
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:39 am -We now know that Phil Leonetti was a CI as far back as 1981. I do not
recall Leonetti EVER exposing that fact in any of the interviews/books
he has done.
No, we don't. There's nothing in there to indicate that. Scarfo ordered a lot of killings early on and while he away on the gun charge that Leonetti was directly involved with. The feds also had issues getting Scarfo on tape, had Leonetti been cooperating that would not have been the case.
If it wasn't Leonetti, who was it?
A certain name is consistently redacted, and Leonetti's name
does not show up hardly at all. That's why I think it COULD
be Leonetti. It could also be "Merlino's cousin" that is mentioned, whoever that is.
Who do you think it might be?
The only name that comes up consistently aside from Scarfo is Larry Merlino. Not his brother, not Sal Testa, Joe Ciancaglini, Monte, or anyone really. Larry Merlino was not as active as time went on in the 80s, and focused on his rebar business. Him being the informant would make more sense than Leonetti.
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