Lawrence Ricci Murder

[eboli]

Fiumara was nj faction boss and panel member at the time of his death.

[Wiseguy]

Stemming from the original 2005 RICO lawsuit against the ILA, and Genovese and Gambino families, Ricci and the ILA officials (Bowers, Daggett, Coffey) were charged with steering union benefit contracts to mob companies, among other things. Ricci refusing a plea deal was the reason he was killed. Don't recall anything about him holding back money.

Palumbo was the acting captain for Silvio DeVita's crew, not Fiumara's. Michael Coppola is most likely captain of that crew now, though he's in prison. The feds said Stephen Depiro took Ricci's place as the guy overseeing the waterfront rackets.

[Pogo The Clown]

Another supposed reason for the hit was that Ricci was talking too much about the Genovese moving in on Philly. If my memory is right he may been part of the attempted Philly coup in 2000. If so it may have been an unsanctioned plot.


Pogo

[Hailbritain]

Yeah I remember reading he plotted with pete caprio to murder the Philly hierarchy at the time . Not sure how true that was

[HairyKnuckles]

Palumbo was the acting captain for Silvio DeVita's crew, not Fiumara's. Michael Coppola is most likely captain of that crew now, though he's in prison. The feds said Stephen Depiro took Ricci's place as the guy overseeing the waterfront rackets.

Have you seen anything official on this? I´m still confused about Palumbo´s crew affiliation. Can´t find anything online confirming he was acting captain of DeVita´s crew. It appears to be true that he is the nephew of deceased Andy Gerardo but that doesn´t automatically mean that he was in his crew. In FBI´s press release covering his murder conspiracy sentencing in 2011, it says he was a resident of Manhattan; NY (New York, New York), I managed to track down a Anthony J. Palumbo, age 69 with a Upper West Side address that seems to fit. His relatives are listed as Mary, Maria, Gabriella, Jeanine and Frank Palumbo. Apparently this Palumbo had previously lived in Bronx; Nanuet, NY; Eastchester, NY and Bronxville, NY. If my research is correct, it doesn´t appear that Palumbo, the former Genovese acting captain, ever lived in NJ. So this raises the question...was Palumbo an acting captain of a NJ based crew,or an acting captain of a NY based crew?

Considering the fact that Palumbo was arrested with Danny Leo (who lives in NJ but crew seems to be NY based (Bronx)) and charged with same charges as him, could it be possible, in your opinion, that Palumbo actually was acting captain for Danny Leo, while he served as acting boss?

[Pogo The Clown]

I believe Palumbo was Acting Capo for Ludwig "Ninny" Bruschi. If I remember right some guy's who were indicted under Bruschi were later indicted under Palumbo. So if he didn't run the crew it looks he at least got part of it.


Pogo

[moneyman]

When Palumbo was indicted 2010 he was in charge of overseeing NJ Genovese operations. Not sure what position that would be, I guess he was a capo with more authority than a typical capo

https://nypost.com/2010/06/15/reputed-g ... rder-plot/

[HairyKnuckles]

When Palumbo was indicted 2010 he was in charge of overseeing NJ Genovese operations. Not sure what position that would be, I guess he was a capo with more authority than a typical capo

https://nypost.com/2010/06/15/reputed-g ... rder-plot/

"Head of the Genovese family’s New Jersey operations"

Not sure what that actually means or what exactly the feds wanted at accomplish by saying that. Historically speaking, there has never been a Genovese captain who was head of it´s Family´s NJ operations. Since the 1950s, Genovese members based in NJ, has been divided into several crews and under different captains. And to my knowledge, these crews has never had a NJ based captain above them, supervising them. I agree it´s confusing but the statement could mean that Danny Leo, who was the acting boss at the time, named Palumbo to supervise a crew in NJ but not the entire Genovese Family´s NJ operations.

[Wiseguy]

Palumbo was the acting captain for Silvio DeVita's crew, not Fiumara's. Michael Coppola is most likely captain of that crew now, though he's in prison. The feds said Stephen Depiro took Ricci's place as the guy overseeing the waterfront rackets.

Have you seen anything official on this? I´m still confused about Palumbo´s crew affiliation. Can´t find anything online confirming he was acting captain of DeVita´s crew. It appears to be true that he is the nephew of deceased Andy Gerardo but that doesn´t automatically mean that he was in his crew. In FBI´s press release covering his murder conspiracy sentencing in 2011, it says he was a resident of Manhattan; NY (New York, New York), I managed to track down a Anthony J. Palumbo, age 69 with a Upper West Side address that seems to fit. His relatives are listed as Mary, Maria, Gabriella, Jeanine and Frank Palumbo. Apparently this Palumbo had previously lived in Bronx; Nanuet, NY; Eastchester, NY and Bronxville, NY. If my research is correct, it doesn´t appear that Palumbo, the former Genovese acting captain, ever lived in NJ. So this raises the question...was Palumbo an acting captain of a NJ based crew,or an acting captain of a NY based crew?

Considering the fact that Palumbo was arrested with Danny Leo (who lives in NJ but crew seems to be NY based (Bronx)) and charged with same charges as him, could it be possible, in your opinion, that Palumbo actually was acting captain for Danny Leo, while he served as acting boss?

Good question now that you mention it. Maybe Pogo can recall where that originally came from.

We might have to rethink that in light of what Palumbo's sentencing memorandum says below:


Anthony Palumbo’s Involvement In The Genovese Organized Crime Family

As alleged in this case, Palumbo has been a long-time and powerful Soldier and Acting Capo in the Genovese Organized Crime Family. If the Government had proceeded to trial, multiple cooperating witnesses would have testified to Palumbo’s involvement in the Genovese Crime Family dating back to at least the late 1980s and early 1990s. The evidence would have established that Palumbo was allied closely with the powerful “Westside” of the Genovese Crime Family. The Westside crew was the power hub of the Crime Family, and was comprised of captains who were loyal to and reported directly to Vincent “The Chin” Gigante, the then boss of the Genovese family. These captains effectively ran the administration of the Genovese family and represented the Genovese Family at meetings with other LCN families in Gigante’s absence. Former Acting Boss Dominick “Quiet Dom” Cirillo was one of the Westside captains to whom Palumbo was particularly close.

As a result of his relationship to the leadership of the Genovese Crime Family, in or about 1992, following the death of Genovese Capo James Napoli, a/k/a “Jimmy Nap,” Palumbo was placed in charge of Napoli’s crew in Brooklyn, which included mobsters such as James Tenaglia, a/k/a “Jimmy T,” who operated a highly profitable loansharking, gambling, and numbers business in Brooklyn, and Felice Masullo, who was one of Tenaglia’s right-hand men. In supervising that crew, Palumbo oversaw its members’ criminal activities, including loansharking, extortion and gambling. In the years prior to Masullo and Palumbo’s arrest in this case, Palumbo had Masullo function as his driver, accompanying Palumbo to meetings with other high ranking members of the Genovese Crime Family, and as an intermediary, delivering messages between Palumbo and other members of the Genovese Family. This not only revealed Masullo’s rising star in the Genovese Crime Family, it confirmed Palumbo’s status as a powerful player as well. Further confirming Palumbo’s position in the Genovese Family are the other mobsters with whom Palumbo frequently met, including in an approximately one month period, leaders in the New Jersey and New York wings of the Genovese Family, such as Frank “Punchy” Illiano, a powerful Genovese Capo formerly on the ruling panel of the Genovese Family; Daniel Leo, an Acting Boss of the Genovese Crime Family; as well as Silvio Devita and Joseph Gatto, both Genovese Captains in New Jersey.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LE4dNDmVMu



In 2006, Daniel Leo placed long-time Soldier and Acting Capo Anthony Palumbo in charge of the New Jersey operations of the Genovese Family.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/newyo ... 20409b.htm

[Hailbritain]

Rare picture of genovese members leaving a Christmas party thrown by punchy illiano in the mid 2000s , 2nd left is jailed genovese capo Anthony palumbo . Also in the picture is the Masullo brothers

[SonnyBlackstein]

"was allied closely with the powerful “Westside” of the Genovese Crime Family. The Westside crew was the power hub of the Crime Family, and was comprised of captains who were loyal to and reported directly to Vincent “The Chin” Gigante, the then boss of the Genovese family. "

What a bunch of nonsensical waffle.
There is no Westside crew, the term Westside refers to the Genovese family as a whole, not a single crew or faction within it.
The second half of the sentence is even more egregious, there were captains who weren't loyal to the Chin?

Garbage like the above makes me seriously question anything futher listed in the piece. If they can have this level of misunderstanding, are we really expected to take nuance with the balance?

[HairyKnuckles]

"was allied closely with the powerful “Westside” of the Genovese Crime Family. The Westside crew was the power hub of the Crime Family, and was comprised of captains who were loyal to and reported directly to Vincent “The Chin” Gigante, the then boss of the Genovese family. "

What a bunch of nonsensical waffle.
There is no Westside crew, the term Westside refers to the Genovese family as a whole, not a single crew or faction within it.
The second half of the sentence is even more egregious, there were captains who weren't loyal to the Chin?

Garbage like the above makes me seriously question anything futher listed in the piece. If they can have this level of misunderstanding, are we really expected to take nuance with the balance?

In this case, the West Side Crew is a reference to the old Vinny Gigante crew, based in Greenwich Village, and all the future captains that came out of there. This crew had a lot of members based in East Harlem and the Bronx back in the day. If Palumbo originally was a Bronx guy (see my post above), it´s possible he too originally was under Gigante, or under any of the other Gigante crew members who later became captains.

[Wiseguy]

Not sure what that actually means or what exactly the feds wanted at accomplish by saying that. Historically speaking, there has never been a Genovese captain who was head of it´s Family´s NJ operations. Since the 1950s, Genovese members based in NJ, has been divided into several crews and under different captains. And to my knowledge, these crews has never had a NJ based captain above them, supervising them. I agree it´s confusing but the statement could mean that Danny Leo, who was the acting boss at the time, named Palumbo to supervise a crew in NJ but not the entire Genovese Family´s NJ operations.

I've said before it could simply mean Leo made Palumbo the go-between for the top leadership in New York and the crews in New Jersey. In other words, keeping oversight of the family's Jersey operations as a whole.

"was allied closely with the powerful “Westside” of the Genovese Crime Family. The Westside crew was the power hub of the Crime Family, and was comprised of captains who were loyal to and reported directly to Vincent “The Chin” Gigante, the then boss of the Genovese family. "

What a bunch of nonsensical waffle.
There is no Westside crew, the term Westside refers to the Genovese family as a whole, not a single crew or faction within it.
The second half of the sentence is even more egregious, there were captains who weren't loyal to the Chin?

Garbage like the above makes me seriously question anything futher listed in the piece. If they can have this level of misunderstanding, are we really expected to take nuance with the balance?

In this case, the West Side Crew is a reference to the old Vinny Gigante crew, based in Greenwich Village, and all the future captains that came out of there. This crew had a lot of members based in East Harlem and the Bronx back in the day. If Palumbo originally was a Bronx guy (see my post above), it´s possible he too originally was under Gigante, or under any of the other Gigante crew members who later became captains.

That's my understanding of the "West Side" reference in the report as well. I've seen it used by both law enforcement and underworld figures elsewhere.

Of course, there is also the more general reference to the "West Side," meaning the Genovese family as a whole. I'm not sure which came first or if the one grew out of the other.

Anyway Sonny, I know you'll be shocked to hear me say this, but don't be so quick to dismiss the feds. These detention and sentencing memos often have some of the best info on the inner workings of the LCN. Sometimes stuff we don't even see laid out in indictments or, if so, with a lot less detail.

Finally, it appears Palumbo was placed in charge of Jimmy Napoli's crew in Brooklyn originally in 1992. Not sure if we should assume a captain rank with that because he was said to be a "long-time soldier and acting captain" in 2006. Acting for who, I'm not sure, but he appears to have been well connected with leaders of the family and had a lot of influence.

[SILENT PARTNERZ]

When Palumbo was indicted 2010 he was in charge of overseeing NJ Genovese operations. Not sure what position that would be, I guess he was a capo with more authority than a typical capo

https://nypost.com/2010/06/15/reputed-g ... rder-plot/

"Head of the Genovese family’s New Jersey operations"

Not sure what that actually means or what exactly the feds wanted at accomplish by saying that. Historically speaking, there has never been a Genovese captain who was head of it´s Family´s NJ operations. Since the 1950s, Genovese members based in NJ, has been divided into several crews and under different captains. And to my knowledge, these crews has never had a NJ based captain above them, supervising them. I agree it´s confusing but the statement could mean that Danny Leo, who was the acting boss at the time, named Palumbo to supervise a crew in NJ but not the entire Genovese Family´s NJ operations.

I was always under the impression that there was a Genovese captain that was 'the top NJ capo & had oversight and reported to the admin in NYC:
Willie Moretti > Jerry Catena> Tino Fuimara > ??. There are 5 crews in NJ, so it would make sense to have one capo come into NY and relay orders
and messages back and forth.

[Wiseguy]

When Palumbo was indicted 2010 he was in charge of overseeing NJ Genovese operations. Not sure what position that would be, I guess he was a capo with more authority than a typical capo

https://nypost.com/2010/06/15/reputed-g ... rder-plot/

"Head of the Genovese family’s New Jersey operations"

Not sure what that actually means or what exactly the feds wanted at accomplish by saying that. Historically speaking, there has never been a Genovese captain who was head of it´s Family´s NJ operations. Since the 1950s, Genovese members based in NJ, has been divided into several crews and under different captains. And to my knowledge, these crews has never had a NJ based captain above them, supervising them. I agree it´s confusing but the statement could mean that Danny Leo, who was the acting boss at the time, named Palumbo to supervise a crew in NJ but not the entire Genovese Family´s NJ operations.

I was always under the impression that there was a Genovese captain that was 'the top NJ capo & had oversight and reported to the admin in NYC:
Willie Moretti > Jerry Catena> Tino Fuimara > ??. There are 5 crews in NJ, so it would make sense to have one capo come into NY and relay orders
and messages back and forth.

I've seen that said now and again on the forums before but not sure where it originated. Perhaps it may have been the case at one time, i.e. maybe with guys like Moretti and Catena. But I'm not sure that was the case with Fiumara. He ran one of the family's biggest and most powerful crews in New Jersey, and appears to have been on the panel prior to his death, but I don't recall seeing anything official saying he was over Jersey operations for the family. That may have just been an assumption that originated on the boards.