Giallanzo taking a plea

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gohnjotti wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:10 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:25 am
gohnjotti wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:43 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:18 pm although the Bonanno family were not so powerful, the crew was doing very well on the streets, but, the family suffered a heavy blow earlier this year.
The most recent bust seems to have been just the tip of the iceberg for an impending S.I. bust due to Petey Bullshit. A shame for the family too, since according to Lovaglio his crew was very large in both Staten Island and Florida with 16 made members including some recently inducted.
Last year's bust and this year's big busts show that both Queens and Staten Island are going strong with seemingly none of the "recruiting pool" issues that have been talked about for the past few decades. I'm gonna guess Brooklyn is going well too in Williamsburg and Bensonhurst, but the Bronx is anyone's guess.
I see, but next year things will get better because the Boss of the Bonanno family is released from prison, he may be reorganizing the family
That’s a good point, might bring up some tensions from 2015 though. Who knows if he’s even still in charge.
Mancuso will be on a 3 year long supervised release. If he gets caught meeting with a known mobster his ass will be back in jail. He will probably be not that active or hand over the administration job to someone who can run his errends.
gohnjotti wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:05 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:52 pm
gohnjotti wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:10 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:25 am
gohnjotti wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:43 pm
aleksandrored wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:18 pm although the Bonanno family were not so powerful, the crew was doing very well on the streets, but, the family suffered a heavy blow earlier this year.
The most recent bust seems to have been just the tip of the iceberg for an impending S.I. bust due to Petey Bullshit. A shame for the family too, since according to Lovaglio his crew was very large in both Staten Island and Florida with 16 made members including some recently inducted.
Last year's bust and this year's big busts show that both Queens and Staten Island are going strong with seemingly none of the "recruiting pool" issues that have been talked about for the past few decades. I'm gonna guess Brooklyn is going well too in Williamsburg and Bensonhurst, but the Bronx is anyone's guess.
I see, but next year things will get better because the Boss of the Bonanno family is released from prison, he may be reorganizing the family
That’s a good point, might bring up some tensions from 2015 though. Who knows if he’s even still in charge.
This remember me the Colombo Family, because of imprisonaded of Carmine Persico and their resistance to staying in power, this weakening the family.
Say what you want about Carmine, but he's created a pretty long-lasting empire for his family. Boss since '73, and his people are firmly in charge.
I don´t mean to be hair splitting or anything but it has been proven that Carmine Persico was boss from 1980.
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https://nypost.com/2018/08/15/goodfella ... rk-scheme/

Giallanzo got sentenced toda. Interesting stuff in the article; he apparently has cancer , due to his work during the 9/11 cleanup? also has 4 kids. either way he'll be going away for 14 years...

I wonder how they determine who, and how, gets restitution? he has to pay over a quarter mill to former loan victims
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newera_212 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:43 pm https://nypost.com/2018/08/15/goodfella ... rk-scheme/

Giallanzo got sentenced toda. Interesting stuff in the article; he apparently has cancer , due to his work during the 9/11 cleanup? also has 4 kids. either way he'll be going away for 14 years...

I wonder how they determine who, and how, gets restitution? he has to pay over a quarter mill to former loan victims
Thanks for the post. Glad to finally hear an update.
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I love how they call these people loan victims. How bout sub prime mortgage victims?
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Excessive sentence. If he were black or PR, Irizarry would have given him less than half.
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14 years is ridiculous for loaning 5 people money.
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Add in attempted murder
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:13 am 14 years is ridiculous for loaning 5 people money.
The indictment also included attempted murder and assault charges.
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Plus he had a long criminal record. He got off light all things considered.


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slimshady_007 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:53 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:13 am 14 years is ridiculous for loaning 5 people money.
The indictment also included attempted murder and assault charges.
He also pled out and agreed to forefit his house and make a huge restitution.

He’d likely have got no worse sentence and financial penalties had he gone to trial.

Should’ve rolled the dice.
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Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
That's the risk you take, he aint the first guy to get nailed in a plea. Giallanzo is no boy scout either, this guy and his crew were really throwing their weight around up there.
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I don't get it. Is fed different then state felonies? Every time iv had state charges once u do the PSI they add up all your points right there and tell u what ur min and max is. And I THOUGHT the judge HAD to stay within guidelines to protect them from having to much power etc.

Is it different with a fed case maybe?
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Chucky wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:36 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:09 pm Ridiculous that ON A PLEA he’s sentenced to DOUBLE the recommended guidelines.

A plea he should’ve got around the recommended, otherwise what’s the point.
That's the risk you take, he aint the first guy to get nailed in a plea. Giallanzo is no boy scout either, this guy and his crew were really throwing their weight around up there.
I’m no fan of Ronnie G, but if judges start handing out overs on plea’s it disincentivises people plea bargaining and saving the government the time, expense and possibility of loss at trial.
A plea MUST offer incentive over trial.
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