Alphonse Trucchio

[slimshady_007]

isn't Trucchio head of a giant queens crew? specifically Howard beach.

interesting how u put John Gambino denoting him...
i dont think he would have been the one to demote... do we know if hes demoted?

He lost control of the crew to tommy sassano. And the reason why i said he was demoted PROBABLY by john gambino is since he was a leading figure at the time of his demotion.

Probably is the wrong word. The evidence at hand says Domenico Cefalu was the acting boss, Frank Cali his underboss, and John Gambino was on a "street panel" with Anthony Gurino & Joseph Juliano. It could have been any one of those four men instead of John Gambino, and it probably came from the top administration of the family, i.e. Cefalu and/or Cali.

The admin rlly confuses me. I read on here that up untill his death, john gambino was the fam’s most influential member.

It's only confusing if you choose to get caught up in forum speculation, hearsay, and all around bullshit rather than simply sticking with the latest info from the feds.

Dont know id take the feds or the forum 100% seriously. The feds are the same ones sayin that petey one eye is the official boss. Ik this may sound far fetched but i bet the feds only say he is the official boss since they dont want to admit the gambinos got an official boss on the streets. Id guess that the fam’s top players are frank cali, larry mannino( especially ), and maybe dom cefulu. Its rlly hard speculating with the gambinos nowadays. Props the bosses for bein so low key.

The reason it's "hard speculating with the gambinos nowadays" is because there isn't much room for speculation. It's documented that Peter Gotti is the official boss, Domenico Cefalu is the acting boss, and Frank Cali is the underboss, with a ruling panel under them.

And, by the way, the FBI wouldn't be "ashamed" that the mob has an official boss on the streets. If the mob has a powerful, official leader, then that's great - it means the organized crime squads can continue to drive home that LCN is still a prominent and viable threat to society, and the OC squads can continue to get publicity and federal funding.

Bout the fbi thing, u were sorta right. Also, with pete bout him as boss, ya think the gambinos didn’t remove pete as official boss, pretty much outta respect for the time he’s doin? There has to be some respect for keeping his mouth shut.

[Wiseguy]

Dont know id take the feds or the forum 100% seriously. The feds are the same ones sayin that petey one eye is the official boss. Ik this may sound far fetched but i bet the feds only say he is the official boss since they dont want to admit the gambinos got an official boss on the streets. Id guess that the fam’s top players are frank cali, larry mannino( especially ), and maybe dom cefulu. Its rlly hard speculating with the gambinos nowadays. Props the bosses for bein so low key.

With that kind of mentality, where you choose to speculate rather than defer to those who who actually know, prepare to be confused a lot.

[newera_212]

So was the alleged assualt in prison and the supsid Vernace slap one and the same or two separate incidents?


Pogo

Vernace slapped trucchio while locked up... ya al tried to shake down rocs brother and from my understanding rocs dad went to Vernace... you don't try to shake down a made members brother. Especially when you guys are in the same family, in queens.

thats crazy. wasnt the guy roccaforte, and i guess his brother by extension, IN Trucchio's crew? those guys all came up together. a few of them went as far as getting together and clipping someone who wanted to cut Roccaforte out of the pot business they had. I think the very brother that Trucchio was apparently trying to shake down was arrested with Trucchio and his father back in the day, working in a wire room for a bookmaking operation they had.

I remember reading the story on the boards as well. The getting smacked for insulting the lawyer thing didnt make much sense, I think Al wanted to try to get one of the co-defendents tried separately so that he wouldnt be sitting next to someone charged with murder at court, and the lawyer got pissed. Thats what was reported at least, so unless he was very disrespectful behind closed doors, doesnt seem like too much of a dis. But he must have had a serious falling out with the Roccaforte brothers , essentially childhood friends of his, and must have really been putting pressure on the younger brother , for him to get slapped AND broken down.

I wonder how much weight Vernace's word carries now that he's dead. although im sure to strip someone of their crew the rest of the admin has to OK it

and as far as Admins go, take what the feds say as gospel. if they know, they know. if they dont know, they wont just throw out names to the public. thats why Esposito's rank wasnt listed in his indictment...the feds literally dont know (or else it'd be in there). If they say so and so is the sitting boss , you can take it to the bank until they say otherwise

[JeremyTheJew]

isn't Trucchio head of a giant queens crew? specifically Howard beach.

interesting how u put John Gambino denoting him...
i dont think he would have been the one to demote... do we know if hes demoted?

He lost control of the crew to tommy sassano. And the reason why i said he was demoted PROBABLY by john gambino is since he was a leading figure at the time of his demotion.

Probably is the wrong word. The evidence at hand says Domenico Cefalu was the acting boss, Frank Cali his underboss, and John Gambino was on a "street panel" with Anthony Gurino & Joseph Juliano. It could have been any one of those four men instead of John Gambino, and it probably came from the top administration of the family, i.e. Cefalu and/or Cali.

The admin rlly confuses me. I read on here that up untill his death, john gambino was the fam’s most influential member.

It's only confusing if you choose to get caught up in forum speculation, hearsay, and all around bullshit rather than simply sticking with the latest info from the feds.

i think its tricky situation bc this time the "Forum gossip" matched up with respected researchers. I'm referring to Felice.

before there really wasnt any researchers w substantial credit claiming that Nicky Corrozo was boss. or that Gioeli wasn't. etc.

[chubby]

So was the alleged assualt in prison and the supsid Vernace slap one and the same or two separate incidents?


Pogo

Vernace slapped trucchio while locked up... ya al tried to shake down rocs brother and from my understanding rocs dad went to Vernace... you don't try to shake down a made members brother. Especially when you guys are in the same family, in queens.

thats crazy. wasnt the guy roccaforte, and i guess his brother by extension, IN Trucchio's crew? those guys all came up together. a few of them went as far as getting together and clipping someone who wanted to cut Roccaforte out of the pot business they had. I think the very brother that Trucchio was apparently trying to shake down was arrested with Trucchio and his father back in the day, working in a wire room for a bookmaking operation they had.

I remember reading the story on the boards as well. The getting smacked for insulting the lawyer thing didnt make much sense, I think Al wanted to try to get one of the co-defendents tried separately so that he wouldnt be sitting next to someone charged with murder at court, and the lawyer got pissed. Thats what was reported at least, so unless he was very disrespectful behind closed doors, doesnt seem like too much of a dis. But he must have had a serious falling out with the Roccaforte brothers , essentially childhood friends of his, and must have really been putting pressure on the younger brother , for him to get slapped AND broken down.

I wonder how much weight Vernace's word carries now that he's dead. although im sure to strip someone of their crew the rest of the admin has to OK it

and as far as Admins go, take what the feds say as gospel. if they know, they know. if they dont know, they wont just throw out names to the public. thats why Esposito's rank wasnt listed in his indictment...the feds literally dont know (or else it'd be in there). If they say so and so is the sitting boss , you can take it to the bank until they say otherwise

Yeah all that's pretty much the truth.. here's to add a little more that I left out about the trucchio/roccafprte situation... I was a little vague in my last posts... so I guess al tried to punk roc/or they had some sort of dispute with roc while in m.d.c.and roc told him to kick rocks s.al sent a guy to shake down mike rocs brother and his father reached out to vernace who put al on the shelf after he bitch slapped him. That's the version I've known and believe to be the truth.

Heard rocs a really decent guy and a gentleman..also has a rep of being a really tough guy, and word is he's done some work.. he's has two cute little daughters he has to see through a plexy glass plane for the next few years I I think. Not sure how long he has left, honestly haven't checked.

[slimshady_007]

So was the alleged assualt in prison and the supsid Vernace slap one and the same or two separate incidents?


Pogo

Vernace slapped trucchio while locked up... ya al tried to shake down rocs brother and from my understanding rocs dad went to Vernace... you don't try to shake down a made members brother. Especially when you guys are in the same family, in queens.

thats crazy. wasnt the guy roccaforte, and i guess his brother by extension, IN Trucchio's crew? those guys all came up together. a few of them went as far as getting together and clipping someone who wanted to cut Roccaforte out of the pot business they had. I think the very brother that Trucchio was apparently trying to shake down was arrested with Trucchio and his father back in the day, working in a wire room for a bookmaking operation they had.

I remember reading the story on the boards as well. The getting smacked for insulting the lawyer thing didnt make much sense, I think Al wanted to try to get one of the co-defendents tried separately so that he wouldnt be sitting next to someone charged with murder at court, and the lawyer got pissed. Thats what was reported at least, so unless he was very disrespectful behind closed doors, doesnt seem like too much of a dis. But he must have had a serious falling out with the Roccaforte brothers , essentially childhood friends of his, and must have really been putting pressure on the younger brother , for him to get slapped AND broken down.

I wonder how much weight Vernace's word carries now that he's dead. although im sure to strip someone of their crew the rest of the admin has to OK it

and as far as Admins go, take what the feds say as gospel. if they know, they know. if they dont know, they wont just throw out names to the public. thats why Esposito's rank wasnt listed in his indictment...the feds literally dont know (or else it'd be in there). If they say so and so is the sitting boss , you can take it to the bank until they say otherwise

Yeah all that's pretty much the truth.. here's to add a little more that I left out about the trucchio/roccafprte situation... I was a little vague in my last posts... so I guess al tried to punk roc/or they had some sort of dispute with roc while in m.d.c.and roc told him to kick rocks s.al sent a guy to shake down mike rocs brother and his father reached out to vernace who put al on the shelf after he bitch slapped him. That's the version I've known and believe to be the truth.

Heard rocs a really decent guy and a gentleman..also has a rep of being a really tough guy, and word is he's done some work.. he's has two cute little daughters he has to see through a plexy glass plane for the next few years I I think. Not sure how long he has left, honestly haven't checked.

Roc is gettin out in December. Kinda strange cuz someone on here said he just got out. Well ima believe the BOP. Shoutout to roc for keeping his mouth shut.

[Buster123]

So was the alleged assualt in prison and the supsid Vernace slap one and the same or two separate incidents?


Pogo

Vernace slapped trucchio while locked up... ya al tried to shake down rocs brother and from my understanding rocs dad went to Vernace... you don't try to shake down a made members brother. Especially when you guys are in the same family, in queens.

thats crazy. wasnt the guy roccaforte, and i guess his brother by extension, IN Trucchio's crew? those guys all came up together. a few of them went as far as getting together and clipping someone who wanted to cut Roccaforte out of the pot business they had. I think the very brother that Trucchio was apparently trying to shake down was arrested with Trucchio and his father back in the day, working in a wire room for a bookmaking operation they had.

I remember reading the story on the boards as well. The getting smacked for insulting the lawyer thing didnt make much sense, I think Al wanted to try to get one of the co-defendents tried separately so that he wouldnt be sitting next to someone charged with murder at court, and the lawyer got pissed. Thats what was reported at least, so unless he was very disrespectful behind closed doors, doesnt seem like too much of a dis. But he must have had a serious falling out with the Roccaforte brothers , essentially childhood friends of his, and must have really been putting pressure on the younger brother , for him to get slapped AND broken down.

I wonder how much weight Vernace's word carries now that he's dead. although im sure to strip someone of their crew the rest of the admin has to OK it

and as far as Admins go, take what the feds say as gospel. if they know, they know. if they dont know, they wont just throw out names to the public. thats why Esposito's rank wasnt listed in his indictment...the feds literally dont know (or else it'd be in there). If they say so and so is the sitting boss , you can take it to the bank until they say otherwise

Yeah all that's pretty much the truth.. here's to add a little more that I left out about the trucchio/roccafprte situation... I was a little vague in my last posts... so I guess al tried to punk roc/or they had some sort of dispute with roc while in m.d.c.and roc told him to kick rocks s.al sent a guy to shake down mike rocs brother and his father reached out to vernace who put al on the shelf after he bitch slapped him. That's the version I've known and believe to be the truth.

Heard rocs a really decent guy and a gentleman..also has a rep of being a really tough guy, and word is he's done some work.. he's has two cute little daughters he has to see through a plexy glass plane for the next few years I I think. Not sure how long he has left, honestly haven't checked.

Roc is gettin out in December. Kinda strange cuz someone on here said he just got out. Well ima believe the BOP. Shoutout to roc for keeping his mouth shut.

He’s out 100%

[slimshady_007]

So was the alleged assualt in prison and the supsid Vernace slap one and the same or two separate incidents?


Pogo

Vernace slapped trucchio while locked up... ya al tried to shake down rocs brother and from my understanding rocs dad went to Vernace... you don't try to shake down a made members brother. Especially when you guys are in the same family, in queens.

thats crazy. wasnt the guy roccaforte, and i guess his brother by extension, IN Trucchio's crew? those guys all came up together. a few of them went as far as getting together and clipping someone who wanted to cut Roccaforte out of the pot business they had. I think the very brother that Trucchio was apparently trying to shake down was arrested with Trucchio and his father back in the day, working in a wire room for a bookmaking operation they had.

I remember reading the story on the boards as well. The getting smacked for insulting the lawyer thing didnt make much sense, I think Al wanted to try to get one of the co-defendents tried separately so that he wouldnt be sitting next to someone charged with murder at court, and the lawyer got pissed. Thats what was reported at least, so unless he was very disrespectful behind closed doors, doesnt seem like too much of a dis. But he must have had a serious falling out with the Roccaforte brothers , essentially childhood friends of his, and must have really been putting pressure on the younger brother , for him to get slapped AND broken down.

I wonder how much weight Vernace's word carries now that he's dead. although im sure to strip someone of their crew the rest of the admin has to OK it

and as far as Admins go, take what the feds say as gospel. if they know, they know. if they dont know, they wont just throw out names to the public. thats why Esposito's rank wasnt listed in his indictment...the feds literally dont know (or else it'd be in there). If they say so and so is the sitting boss , you can take it to the bank until they say otherwise

Yeah all that's pretty much the truth.. here's to add a little more that I left out about the trucchio/roccafprte situation... I was a little vague in my last posts... so I guess al tried to punk roc/or they had some sort of dispute with roc while in m.d.c.and roc told him to kick rocks s.al sent a guy to shake down mike rocs brother and his father reached out to vernace who put al on the shelf after he bitch slapped him. That's the version I've known and believe to be the truth.

Heard rocs a really decent guy and a gentleman..also has a rep of being a really tough guy, and word is he's done some work.. he's has two cute little daughters he has to see through a plexy glass plane for the next few years I I think. Not sure how long he has left, honestly haven't checked.

Roc is gettin out in December. Kinda strange cuz someone on here said he just got out. Well ima believe the BOP. Shoutout to roc for keeping his mouth shut.

He’s out 100%

Source?

[Buster123]

My own two eyes

[slimshady_007]

My own two eyes

What u mean by that? You’ve seen him recently?

[SonnyBlackstein]

Al ‘extorting’ Roc’s brother. Couldn’t he simply be asking for ‘tribute’.

What’s the difference?

And why is one cause for being broken and shelved and the other the principle function of how a family operates.

[Cheech]

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbth ... Post834933

[CabriniGreen]

@ Sonny

It's no real difference, just politics really, at the end of the day.... Like you said, he could've been seeking the respect he thought was owed to him, by his " capo" status.

He clearly miscalculated, like I said previously, RANK and POWER are NOT the same fuckin thing....

[slimshady_007]

Al ‘extorting’ Roc’s brother. Couldn’t he simply be asking for ‘tribute’.

What’s the difference?

And why is one cause for being broken and shelved and the other the principle function of how a family operates.

Trucchio must’ve rlly been askin for a LOT of cash. From all the shit ive read on trucchio he seems like as if aj soprano joined la cosa nostra.

[Fughedaboutit]

Al ‘extorting’ Roc’s brother. Couldn’t he simply be asking for ‘tribute’.

What’s the difference?

And why is one cause for being broken and shelved and the other the principle function of how a family operates.

Trucchio must’ve rlly been askin for a LOT of cash. From all the shit ive read on trucchio he seems like as if aj soprano joined la cosa nostra.

Come on man, sometimes you have some decent posts the next second you are making silly posts like this and asking about gay associates. From all accounts he had one of the strongest crews in the Gambinos