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So to stay on thread topic, Sebastiano “Sebby” Saracino is a lowly piece of shit rat cunt.
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In his daily trial blog, Tommy referred to Dino Calabro as “The Hemorrhoid”..... :lol:
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Doobeez wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:19 pm In his daily trial blog, Tommy referred to Dino Calabro as “The Hemorrhoid”..... :lol:
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Doobeez wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:10 pm So to stay on thread topic, Sebastiano “Sebby” Saracino is a lowly piece of shit rat cunt.
He takes the fucking cake I agree. He flipped because he was arrested for immigration fraud and was facing fucking deportation to Italy!

Then ratted on his own brother for murder.
What’s grade A cunt.
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JeremyTheJew wrote:
gohnjotti wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:47 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:18 pm what capos have flipped since Massino??

i re re resd the info on Cammarano jnr csse, and that looks like it is just as bad of a blow as lukes.

i think there was a capo on mafia takedown who flipped but im drawing a blank who else?? esp when u say significant capos
There were two high ranking Colombo capos (Russo and Maragni) that flipped on Mafia takedown day.

The fact of the matter is, which ever way you look at it, there has been a consistent flow of high ranking rats in the 21st century.
yes. thats why i suspect someone will be flipping soon... theres three big cases coming up from three diff fams
That guy Maragni is useless to the feds after what he did while he was under their thumb. Turned his recording watch on and off as he conducted mob business. Warned certain friends of his that he was wired for sound using notes as they were talking. Collected shylock money and didn't report it to the feds. Ruined his life then hangs it in the fed's asses. A real mensa member right there. I'd bang the shit out of his girlfriend though. Hopefully his cancer got him by now.

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Worst reason I ever read that would prompt one to flip. Regarding Sebby’s immigration status, iirc, his folks came over when he was still a baby, and just prior to Dino being born in NY. His “zip” status was a point of emphasis for Christ sake.

I’m sure theres a special place in hell for the rats like Sebby, who also shared the same sociopathic qualities as his younger brother. If you remember, their parent’s basement was called the dungeon because that’s where they would lure their victims and kill them. Cutolo’s life may have ended there too, but not 100% sure my memory is being fair to me tonight.
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Saracino I'm sure is related to mafiosi in CDG where his family is from. Same for Calabro as well I think. Strange how they ended up in this family and not Bonanno.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:17 am and u act like I said "i dont see any reason crea would flip"
lol no i just said i dont see it being Crea that will flip. i think if Crea was going to it would have happened allready.
Ya never know. If the death penalty is on the table he could pull a ‘joe massino’.
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I never liked Fratianno. Just a complete bullshit artist. I also think an out and out liar with some of his testimony. But the constant bragging about how great he was, and yet he spends a lot of time in prison, ends up being flat broke when he flips, belittles pretty much everyone around him, blames other people for all of his problems, ends up flipping, and somehow he's the Last Mafioso? Give me a break. He was a complete and utter failure as a wiseguy but that wasn't his fault somehow.
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Messina or Lonardo-In Lonardo's case, he was the highest ranking to testify at the time...and it wiped out the entire Cleveland family forever
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Gas Pipe hands down.
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JCB1977 wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:37 pm Messina or Lonardo-In Lonardo's case, he was the highest ranking to testify at the time...and it wiped out the entire Cleveland family forever
I've always found Lonardo to be a relatively unimportant witness. Cleveland was essentially gone by the time he decided to testify. He's the acting boss and gets taken out in the Zagaria-Gallo-Sinito drug case. And that was pretty much all that was left of the Cleveland family. Who did he really help convict? Even his testimony in the Strawman trial was less than impressive. He was an underboss but he was being used as a money courier. And if you look at his testimony before congress, he doesn't seem to know a lot of details about the Greene-Nardi war. Lots of murders and attempted murders that he says he had no information about. And the stuff he did give information on was all second hand stuff that he heard about. But he doesn't seem to really help with any other cases. For being an underboss and acting boss he comes across as incredibly uninformed about what was going on in his own family and other families.
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gohnjotti wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:51 am
slimshady_007 wrote: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:27 am
What happened with saracino?
After Dino Saracino was imprisoned with Tommy Shots for a plethora of murders, he attempted to hold onto his rackets to provide for his family. He wanted Irish Tommy McLaughlin to take control of his loanshark book, with Gaetano 'Tommy' Gallo to help enforce things. Unfortunately, a few months later, Anthony Russo was made (Feb. 1, 2009), and used his new position to "claim" Tommy Gallo and other Saracino associates. Russo then took over Saracino's loansharking business, keeping one-third to himself and splitting the remaining two-thirds between Gallo and Saracino (cutting out Irish Tommy altogether).

Worst of all, Saracino - through Tommy - lost the sitdown and all of his other rackets "generated by Mr. Saracino's crewmembers belonged to Russo and Persico, Jr., notwithstanding any preference Mr. Saracino might have."

So, whilst he's awaiting a trial that can put him away for life, the Colombo family are like vultures on his rackets and Saracino's income dries up, not only for himself, but also for his family, and for legal bills. Out of a blind loyalty, Saracino ended up holding his tongue and not flipping. Him and Tommy Shots went to trial, were acquitted of some stuff but guilty of others, and the young Dino took 50 years on the chin while the Colombos were splitting up his rackets among themselves.
was this in the indicment?
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Cheech wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:58 pm
was this in the indicment?
It was in a complaint to try and bar attorney Joseph Corozzo Jr. to represent somebody in the 2011 bust. Corozzo supposedly passed messages to Dino Saracino as his attorney in prison and also set up a meeting between Tommy McLaughlin and Teddy Persico Jr. where it was decided all of Dino's rackets would be split up.
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gohnjotti wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:12 pm
Cheech wrote: Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:58 pm
was this in the indicment?
It was in a complaint to try and bar attorney Joseph Corozzo Jr. to represent somebody in the 2011 bust. Corozzo supposedly passed messages to Dino Saracino as his attorney in prison and also set up a meeting between Tommy McLaughlin and Teddy Persico Jr. where it was decided all of Dino's rackets would be split up.
do you have a link to this complaint anywhere? id love to read it. the info from it you had posted earlier was good stuff (and also news to me). the colombos especially in that area of brooklyn 20th ave vicinity were stocked full of low lives. anthony russo seems like one of the worst, but at the same time nothing too extraordinary...dime a dozen scumbag behavior
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