Genovese Family Administration

[john g]

Petie red died today

[JeremyTheJew]

is this official?

[john g]

Definitely official

[MichaelGiovanni]

Definitely official

Do you have anything to show the rest of us that it is 'definitely official'?

[yatescj7781]

Can anyone say definitively who was the last Official Boss, UnderBoss, and Consig of the Genovese Family was?

[UTC]

Messagerio?

[Hailbritain]

As far as I’m aware the last know official administration was gigante ( boss ) mangano ( underboss ) and Ida ( consigliere)

[JeremyTheJew]

i believe Danny Leo was at one point looked at as official admin. idk if it was boss but it was admin

[Wiseguy]

i believe Danny Leo was at one point looked at as official admin. idk if it was boss but it was admin

He was on the ruling panel prior to be acting boss before he was indicted. So no.

[JeremyTheJew]

close enough.

[Wiseguy]

Can anyone say definitively who was the last Official Boss, UnderBoss, and Consig of the Genovese Family was?

Boss - was Chin for a long time before Bellomo became the new boss

Underboss - Mangano

Consigliere - was Ida for a long time before DiChiara

[JeremyTheJew]

Can anyone say definitively who was the last Official Boss, UnderBoss, and Consig of the Genovese Family was?

Boss - was Chin for a long time before Bellomo became the new boss

Underboss - Mangano

Consigliere - was Ida for a long time before DiChiara

was it believed benny eggs stayed UB until death?
and was Ida still holding rank in prison?

[Frank]

i believe Danny Leo was at one point looked at as official admin. idk if it was boss but it was admin

He was on the ruling panel prior to be acting boss before he was indicted. So no.

I never heard of Leo being Official Boss. But doesn't being on the ruling panel count as being an official administration member??

[Frank]

i believe Danny Leo was at one point looked at as official admin. idk if it was boss but it was admin

He was on the ruling panel prior to be acting boss before he was indicted. So no.

I never heard of Leo being Official Boss. But doesn't being on the ruling panel count as being an official administration member??

I bad, the panel was acting too for the incarcerated administration. As long as we are on the subject, I always thought it was it was strange that Leo was never made Official, that we know of, when the Chin died. I always thought at the time that either Leo became official, but LE never found out, or he was acting until Bellomo got out. It looked like Bellomo over the years was being groomed to succeed Gigante. But I can see the reason they would have a panel since most of the leaders just about ready to get out of prison and probably had supervised release time. It's another period of time that could end up with somebody in the future changing what we accept now as the facts.

[Wiseguy]

was it believed benny eggs stayed UB until death?
and was Ida still holding rank in prison?

I never saw anything definitive regarding how long they held their ranks after they went to prison. They were simply the last ones that held those ranks, at least until more recently.

never heard of Leo being Official Boss. But doesn't being on the ruling panel count as being an official administration member??

Official, in the sense we're talking about, means a permanent position unless one dies, steps down, or flips. Not in an acting capacity which, by its nature, is a temporary thing. Ruling panels, including when Leo was on the Genovese ruling panel, also tend to be temporary and often changing or rotating.

I bad, the panel was acting too for the incarcerated administration. As long as we are on the subject, I always thought it was it was strange that Leo was never made Official, that we know of, when the Chin died. I always thought at the time that either Leo became official, but LE never found out, or he was acting until Bellomo got out. It looked like Bellomo over the years was being groomed to succeed Gigante. But I can see the reason they would have a panel since most of the leaders just about ready to get out of prison and probably had supervised release time. It's another period of time that could end up with somebody in the future changing what we accept now as the facts.

After Chin was convicted and went to prison in 1997, Cirillo (who took over as acting boss) instituted the ruling panel that same year. The assumption at the time was that Gigante would get out, nobody foreseeing he would die in 2005. But the family continued to use the ruling panel (often with one being the acting boss) even after Chin died, as well as after Bellomo was released from prison in late 2008. In fact, in 2009 Bellomo was said to be on a rotating panel along with Mangano, Muscarella, and Dentico. Later, Fiumara was said to be on a 3 man ruling panel before he died in 2010. The panel was probably in use at least until Bellomo took over as official boss.