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What about the piazzas. Are they made or active at all? Wasn’t there a Genovese crew kicking up a small tribute to loscalzo years ago as well? Been a while since I been in Tampa.
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sdeitche wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:27 am Antonio Amorelli/68 - living in Tampa
Terry Cacciatore/70 - died April 10, 2001
Salvatore "Sam" Carollo/78 - living in Tampa area (Dade City in Pasco County last I checked)
Joseph DiGerlando/77 - living in Tampa- doubt active
Vincent LoScalzo/78 - WIll be 80 this year. Still living in Brandon (just outside Tampa) and working at Emerald Green Country CLub as far as I know.
Michael Napoli/64 - ??
Louis Caggiano/79 - THink hes still in Tampa. House he lived at in South Tampa was sold earlier this year

Frederick Scarola/73 - an associate charged int eh 2000 Miami faction bust. alive in Ft Lauderdale. He has a Facebook page. Doubt he's still active
Julius Chiusano/67 - another Gambino/Trafficante Miami associate. Not sure
Are Julius B. Chiusano, 69, Giuseppe 'Joe Baldy' Belitto, 68, and Joseph Silvestri, 60 (all Miami guys) made? Would like to know if you have heard anything regarding them.

Also, Freddy Scarola probably hooked up with his inlaw Bonanno capo Anthony 'TG' Graziano's crew, following his release (unless he retired). According to Lovaglio (who took over Graziano's crew), the crew maintained interests in Florida following TG and Scarola's 2002 arrest.
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sdeitche wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:28 pm
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toto wrote:sdeitche,

What do you know about the murder of Giuseppe Tramontana a friend of Buscetta present in his wedding to Vera Girotti and also the murder of Giuseppe Romano? In the internet we can read Steve Raffa and Vincenzo Lo Scalzo were involved in both these murders. Is it true?
Raffa and John Galatolo were suspected of involvement in the murder. I spoke to an FBI agent on the case about 15 years ago and that was his take.
John Galatolo is a lucky man so far. His son-in-law Angelo Fontana who was also living in Florida in the 80s flipped 10 years ago. Did you have any further information on his activities there? He was serving a life sentence in Italy for murder when he flipped.

Also, John Galatolo's cousins children flipped. His cousin is Vincenzo Galatolo "Enzo Alati" ex-boss Acquasanta and his son and daughter both flipped.

Another of Galatolo's friend is Saro Naimo who was boss of all the sicilian mafiosi in America and he also flipped.

Incredible he didn't get a life sentence in America for those two homicides.
I don't. John Galatolo wrote me about 15 years ago from prison. I may still have his letters somewhere. If I can dig them up, I'll post them.
Scott, any info on whether Lo Scalzo has or may induct new members?
Or, will this family die when the current members pass away?
I suspect it will be the latter, but curious. Thanks, JeffE
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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:03 am
sdeitche wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:28 pm
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sdeitche wrote:
toto wrote:sdeitche,

What do you know about the murder of Giuseppe Tramontana a friend of Buscetta present in his wedding to Vera Girotti and also the murder of Giuseppe Romano? In the internet we can read Steve Raffa and Vincenzo Lo Scalzo were involved in both these murders. Is it true?
Raffa and John Galatolo were suspected of involvement in the murder. I spoke to an FBI agent on the case about 15 years ago and that was his take.
John Galatolo is a lucky man so far. His son-in-law Angelo Fontana who was also living in Florida in the 80s flipped 10 years ago. Did you have any further information on his activities there? He was serving a life sentence in Italy for murder when he flipped.

Also, John Galatolo's cousins children flipped. His cousin is Vincenzo Galatolo "Enzo Alati" ex-boss Acquasanta and his son and daughter both flipped.

Another of Galatolo's friend is Saro Naimo who was boss of all the sicilian mafiosi in America and he also flipped.

Incredible he didn't get a life sentence in America for those two homicides.
I don't. John Galatolo wrote me about 15 years ago from prison. I may still have his letters somewhere. If I can dig them up, I'll post them.
Scott, any info on whether Lo Scalzo has or may induct new members?
Or, will this family die when the current members pass away?
I suspect it will be the latter, but curious. Thanks, JeffE
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cdc wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:20 am What about the piazzas. Are they made or active at all? Wasn’t there a Genovese crew kicking up a small tribute to loscalzo years ago as well? Been a while since I been in Tampa.
The last active Piazza was phillip. He died a long time ago, forget exactly when.

Never heard about the Genovese crew.
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I think the family is dead and what active guys involved were taken over by the gambinos. But I think the lcn as a whole is pretty much dead in Tampa unless the Gambinos still have an active interest in some clubs there. Just NY and NJ crews in FL that are active it seems. Also even though the Outfit is still active it doesn't seem that they had active crews in FL for decades
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Yeah, the Trafficante family is long gone. Last activity was in the early 2000s and even then it was more remnants of the family that were affiliated with the Gambinos. Maybe cdc is talking about John Mamone, who was a Genovese associate before hooking up with the Trafficantes? Anyway, the only activity for years now have been the NY families in the Miami/South Florida area.
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You might be right wiseguy. I did have it in my head that it was in Miami so could well have been that.

We’re any of the piazzas ever actually made or was mamone the last guy to be made?

No doubt the family is dead. When a made guy, Camero I think, sues someone over a property dispute it’s a pretty clear indicator they have disappeared.
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Wiseguy wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:44 am Yeah, the Trafficante family is long gone. Last activity was in the early 2000s and even then it was more remnants of the family that were affiliated with the Gambinos. Maybe cdc is talking about John Mamone, who was a Genovese associate before hooking up with the Trafficantes? Anyway, the only activity for years now have been the NY families in the Miami/South Florida area.
Safe to say in our lifetime that all families will be gone except the NYC Metro area.
Maybe Philly, Chicago, Patriarca will linger, but no others.
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Detroit!
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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:22 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:44 am Yeah, the Trafficante family is long gone. Last activity was in the early 2000s and even then it was more remnants of the family that were affiliated with the Gambinos. Maybe cdc is talking about John Mamone, who was a Genovese associate before hooking up with the Trafficantes? Anyway, the only activity for years now have been the NY families in the Miami/South Florida area.
Safe to say in our lifetime that all families will be gone except the NYC Metro area.
Maybe Philly, Chicago, Patriarca will linger, but no others.
Didn’t you just name all the families active now? Apart from debatable Detroit of course.
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DeCavs .

but yes lol he did
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:48 pm DeCavs .

but yes lol he did
Oh yeah. But aren't the DeCavs a hell of a lot stronger than Patriarca and Philly?
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gohnjotti wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:25 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:48 pm DeCavs .

but yes lol he did
Oh yeah. But aren't the DeCavs a hell of a lot stronger than Patriarca and Philly?

i wouldn't say hell of a lot... but id say stronger then Pats... Philly seems to continue to thrive...

its up for debate whether decav is even there own fam now. last we hesrd the gambinos tried to absorb them...

whAtever came up w that indictment where "milk" was said to be boss. as well as a "horse" i believe.

then Gurraci died.... so idk. anyone have any updates?
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:02 pm
gohnjotti wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:25 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:48 pm DeCavs .

but yes lol he did
Oh yeah. But aren't the DeCavs a hell of a lot stronger than Patriarca and Philly?

i wouldn't say hell of a lot... but id say stronger then Pats... Philly seems to continue to thrive...

its up for debate whether decav is even there own fam now. last we hesrd the gambinos tried to absorb them...

whAtever came up w that indictment where "milk" was said to be boss. as well as a "horse" i believe.

then Gurraci died.... so idk. anyone have any updates?
Don't think so. It would be interesting to delve into who these mysterious coded bosses could be. We have received a bit of clues from what Stango said.

Also, I think the DeCavs are doing pretty good and I don't think they "run under the f**king Gambinos" like Stango said. He was probably exaggerating.
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