Cleveland Present Day

[Stroccos]

Thanks JCB1977, when looking I really couldn’t find anything on them. Not even a recent pic of Papalardo. Is John “Johnny two shoes” Dimariangeli still around? I knew Carmine Agnello wasn’t connected to these guys. I figured he had his own hustle going on in Chagrin falls. Also what ever happened to Iacobacci?

SOmeones yanking your chain

[Stroccos]

Yes, Agnello is a Gambino soldier. Don't recall if he's been shelved or not but, either way, he moved to Cleveland a while back and was operating on his own. Doing the same car parts/scrap metal stuff he did in Queens. It's what he knows.

Some claim he is shelfed , but he was in contact with members of the gambino family . Could of just been old friends keeping in touch . Danny fama meet with a undercover Cleveland officer I guess he didn’t take the bait as he was never indicted and the angello case fell apart as well
Also carmine befriended some of the Cleveland guys in prison . So it’s not like he was a unknown to them

[JCB1977]

Okay, like who? Specific crews or neighbourghoods? Were they conbected to the italian mob in CL

I don't know any specific names and Scalish/Milano always allowed them operate in their designated territory. Eastlake was one of the areas they operated in.

[AlexfromSouth]

Thanks buddy. I'll look up for more

[JCB1977]

So guys like Palardo or Iacobacci never had the authority to induct new men?

Joe Loose was a "self proclaimed" boss of "what was left...RJ was never a boss, it was assumed he was since he was one of the last men standing. Iacobacci aka Joe Loose and RJ were inducted by Angelo Lonardo...they were the last group of guys made in Cleveland prior to the collapse

[JCB1977]

Thanks JCB1977, when looking I really couldn’t find anything on them. Not even a recent pic of Papalardo. Is John “Johnny two shoes” Dimariangeli still around? I knew Carmine Agnello wasn’t connected to these guys. I figured he had his own hustle going on in Chagrin falls. Also what ever happened to Iacobacci?

SOmeones yanking your chain

I figured as much

[JCB1977]

Okay, like who? Specific crews or neighbourghoods? Were they conbected to the italian mob in CL

Croatians began arriving in Cleveland during the Civil War.

And as American Steel & Wire, Patterson-Sargent Paint Co. and other factories grew, so did the Croatian community, opening its own Roman Catholic church, St. Paul, on Easter Sunday 1904 in the heart of the ethnic neighborhood, East 40th Street and St. Clair Avenue.

The area bustled with working-class families squeezed into rentals because many bankers refused to lend money to immigrants.

By the time World War II began to rage -- spurring thousands more Croatians to seek safety in Cleveland -- the frugal parishioners at St. Paul didn't need the banks.

They had saved up enough money to open a credit union of their own.

The concept was simple: Church members pooled their resources into a nonprofit financial cooperative that could make personal loans and offer other banking services to members.

Croatians would decide who got loans. And because they believed most in their community were hardworking and honest, many could get mortgages or business loans based on little else but trust.

Next door to St. Paul Catholic Church on E. 40th St., on the right, is the Old School House Center building, where the collapsed Croation Credit Union got its start in Cleveland.
The credit union opened in 1943 and quickly changed lives.
At first, Croatians bought houses and businesses around the church. But as many white Clevelanders fled the city in the 1960s and 1970s, Croatians followed, moving farther east, until many settled in Lake County.

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Stipe Miocic!

[AlexfromSouth]

Yes I know there were a lot of croats in that area also in chicago I just never hear they were really in organized crime. I appreciate the post thank you very much. I know to you guys its all the same (serbs, croats, bosnians, etc) but over here its a big deal Just not the same

[Stroccos]

Yes I know there were a lot of croats in that area also in chicago I just never hear they were really in organized crime. I appreciate the post thank you very much. I know to you guys its all the same (serbs, croats, bosnians, etc) but over here its a big deal Just not the same

There is no Croatian Mafia just a bunch of loosely connected criminals , there are some 40-50,000 of croation decent in Cleveland metro area . So even if one percent were criminals that’s 500 people or so .
Small groups of criminals are much harder to track and catch .
Also keep in mind many of the criminals are actually Albanians pretending to be Croatian

[Pogo The Clown]

Also keep in mind many of the criminals are actually Albanians pretending to be Croatian

It's all Greek to me.


Pogo

[Stroccos]

Also keep in mind many of the criminals are actually Albanians pretending to be Croatian

It's all Greek to me.


Pogo

Greeks still operate out of a old coffee shop on the west side , there operations are smaller then in the old days though

[JCB1977]

Also keep in mind many of the criminals are actually Albanians pretending to be Croatian

It's all Greek to me.


Pogo

Greeks still operate out of a old coffee shop on the west side , there operations are smaller then in the old days though

The Greeks are still operating Barbut games in Campbell, OH as well at the Greek Coffee House among a few other bars

[Stroccos]

https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice ... pay_f.html

Carmine Agnello paying for a funeral

[willychichi]

https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice ... landdotcom

Nice find Stroccos, who says the these wiseguys are not caring individuals