Cleveland Present Day

[JCB1977]

Thanks JCB1977, when looking I really couldn’t find anything on them. Not even a recent pic of Papalardo. Is John “Johnny two shoes” Dimariangeli still around? I knew Carmine Agnello wasn’t connected to these guys. I figured he had his own hustle going on in Chagrin falls. Also what ever happened to Iacobacci?

Sorry but I never heard of Johnny Two Shoes. Joe I still hangs around in Little Italy...he lives in his Mom and Dad’s home in Mentor...they’re deceased.

[JCB1977]

So if there is no formal family there is it now just a series of independent bookmakes, loansharks etc etc?

Just leftover members and associates operating independently...RJ has been selling commercial real estate for years...he’s one of the lucky ones to have had something to fall back on.

Pogo, I agree...Loose looks like Ron Jeremy’s twin

[JCB1977]

The Croatians and Serbians have some pretty tough crews, operating illegal gambling.

[JCB1977]

other families have soldiers or crews in Cleveland ?

Carmine Agnello, John Gotti’s former son in law, married a woman from Cleveland. He met her while she was visiting her father at the same prison that he was being housed at, her father is said to be linked to a terrorist organization...Her family are LOADED...Carmine started an auto salvage business and was recently busted for weighing down cars with dirt.

[AlexfromSouth]

The Croatians and Serbians have some pretty tough crews, operating illegal gambling.

really? Care to elaborate? Im from Serbia.

[handy]

So if there is no formal family there is it now just a series of independent bookmakes, loansharks etc etc?

Just leftover members and associates operating independently.

So in theory they are making more money as they dont have to kick any profits up?

[JCB1977]

So if there is no formal family there is it now just a series of independent bookmakes, loansharks etc etc?

Just leftover members and associates operating independently.

So in theory they are making more money as they dont have to kick any profits up?

That would depend on many things. Keep in mind that in Cleveland's heyday, all the auto manufacturing and steel companies were operating and work was plentiful in the city...with the decline of the steel industry, people started moving out of the area. They lost good wages, steady paychecks for citizens and that means less gambling money due to smaller bookmaking operations.

[JCB1977]

The Croatians and Serbians have some pretty tough crews, operating illegal gambling.

really? Care to elaborate? Im from Serbia.

The Croatians and Serbians have been in Cleveland for almost a century...They've always had their own operations in smaller territories

[AlexfromSouth]

Okay, like who? Specific crews or neighbourghoods? Were they conbected to the italian mob in CL

[Nicholas]

other families have soldiers or crews in Cleveland ?

Carmine Agnello, John Gotti’s former son in law, married a woman from Cleveland. He met her while she was visiting her father at the same prison that he was being housed at, her father is said to be linked to a terrorist organization...Her family are LOADED...Carmine started an auto salvage business and was recently busted for weighing down cars with dirt.

I had no idea that bust had absolutely nothing to do with the Gambino Family

[BillyBrizzi]

So guys like Palardo or Iacobacci never had the authority to induct new men?

[the chin 123]

other families have soldiers or crews in Cleveland ?

Carmine Agnello, John Gotti’s former son in law, married a woman from Cleveland. He met her while she was visiting her father at the same prison that he was being housed at, her father is said to be linked to a terrorist organization...Her family are LOADED...Carmine started an auto salvage business and was recently busted for weighing down cars with dirt.

Thanks !
So he his a made guy right ?

[handy]

I think so

[Wiseguy]

Yes, Agnello is a Gambino soldier. Don't recall if he's been shelved or not but, either way, he moved to Cleveland a while back and was operating on his own. Doing the same car parts/scrap metal stuff he did in Queens. It's what he knows.

[Stroccos]

What about rusty “nature boy” masseta