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thought this was pretty interesting.... even tho its wiki. anyone think its realistic? interesting Salerno is rabked #1. i found it really interesting Colombo was so high on the list as well...

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/The_top_50_ ... f_all_time
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i also found this list off of Wiki which i found odd... :

Here is the list of the top 10 richest and most powerful crime bosses.

10.Servando Gomez Martinez aka "La Tuta" Net Worth:$1.2 billion Organization:Knights Templar Cartel Nationality:Mexican

9.Ismael Zambada Garcia aka "El Mayo Zambada" Net Worth:$4.6 billion Organization:Sinaloa Cartel Nationality:Mexican

8.John Ericson Vargas Cardona aka "Sebastian" Net Worth:$4.7 billion Organization:The Office of Envigado Nationality:Colombian

7.Omar Trevino Morales aka "Z-42" Net Worth:$4.75 billion Organization:Los Zetas Nationality:Mexican

6.Matteo Messina Denaro aka "Diabolik" Net Worth:$4.9 billion Organization:Denaro Crime Family Nationality:Italian

5.Semion Mogilevich aka "Seva Mogilevich" Net Worth:$5 billion Organization:Russian Mafia Nationality:Ukranian

4.John Difronzo aka "No Nose" Net Worth:$5.2 billion Organization:Chicago Outfit Nationality:Italian

3.Giovanni Motisi aka "U pacchiuni" Net Worth:$5.35 billion Organization:Motisi Mafia Clan Nationality:Italian

2.Edward Sil Gotierelli aka "No Heart" Net Worth:$5.5 billion Organization:Colombo Crime Family Nationality:Italian

1.Dawood Ibrahim Net Worth:$6.7 billion Organization:D - Company Nationality:Indian

who is this Colombo member at #2 ???
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No way is DiFronzo a billionaire. He's definitely a millionaire but he doesn't have anywhere near 5.2 billion.

The first list was from Forbes magazine. They estimated it based on what type of rackets certain guys were involved in but the accuracy is pretty obviously up for debate considering they are ranking guys based on unreported (and illegitimate) income.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:12 am thought this was pretty interesting.... even tho its wiki. anyone think its realistic? interesting Salerno is rabked #1. i found it really interesting Colombo was so high on the list as well...


The $ amounts listed on the WIKI thing are way too high.
Even Escobar and El Chapo have never been listed as having that kind of money.
The only gangster with that kind of big billions in Putin.
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Snakes wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:51 am No way is DiFronzo a billionaire. He's definitely a millionaire but he doesn't have anywhere near 5.2 billion.

The first list was from Forbes magazine. They estimated it based on what type of rackets certain guys were involved in but the accuracy is pretty obviously up for debate considering they are ranking guys based on unreported (and illegitimate) income.
They also obviously tried to include somebody from almost every family. So it's never been something to take very seriously.
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DiFrozo 5.2 Billion?

Hysterical. Quality journalism.
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who is:

Edward Sil Gotierelli aka "No Heart" Net Worth:$5.5 billion Organization:Colombo Crime Family Nationality:Italian
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:07 am i also found this list off of Wiki which i found odd... :

Here is the list of the top 10 richest and most powerful crime bosses.

10.Servando Gomez Martinez aka "La Tuta" Net Worth:$1.2 billion Organization:Knights Templar Cartel Nationality:Mexican

9.Ismael Zambada Garcia aka "El Mayo Zambada" Net Worth:$4.6 billion Organization:Sinaloa Cartel Nationality:Mexican

8.John Ericson Vargas Cardona aka "Sebastian" Net Worth:$4.7 billion Organization:The Office of Envigado Nationality:Colombian

7.Omar Trevino Morales aka "Z-42" Net Worth:$4.75 billion Organization:Los Zetas Nationality:Mexican

6.Matteo Messina Denaro aka "Diabolik" Net Worth:$4.9 billion Organization:Denaro Crime Family Nationality:Italian

5.Semion Mogilevich aka "Seva Mogilevich" Net Worth:$5 billion Organization:Russian Mafia Nationality:Ukranian

4.John Difronzo aka "No Nose" Net Worth:$5.2 billion Organization:Chicago Outfit Nationality:Italian

3.Giovanni Motisi aka "U pacchiuni" Net Worth:$5.35 billion Organization:Motisi Mafia Clan Nationality:Italian

2.Edward Sil Gotierelli aka "No Heart" Net Worth:$5.5 billion Organization:Colombo Crime Family Nationality:Italian

1.Dawood Ibrahim Net Worth:$6.7 billion Organization:D - Company Nationality:Indian

who is this Colombo member at #2 ???
What a complete idiotic Joke of an article. Fake news at its finest. :lol:
Difronzo (acording to Fosco) is about 20 to 25 million and that MIGHT even include some of his Brother, who knows.
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Confederate wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:08 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:07 am i also found this list off of Wiki which i found odd... :

Here is the list of the top 10 richest and most powerful crime bosses.

10.Servando Gomez Martinez aka "La Tuta" Net Worth:$1.2 billion Organization:Knights Templar Cartel Nationality:Mexican

9.Ismael Zambada Garcia aka "El Mayo Zambada" Net Worth:$4.6 billion Organization:Sinaloa Cartel Nationality:Mexican

8.John Ericson Vargas Cardona aka "Sebastian" Net Worth:$4.7 billion Organization:The Office of Envigado Nationality:Colombian

7.Omar Trevino Morales aka "Z-42" Net Worth:$4.75 billion Organization:Los Zetas Nationality:Mexican

6.Matteo Messina Denaro aka "Diabolik" Net Worth:$4.9 billion Organization:Denaro Crime Family Nationality:Italian

5.Semion Mogilevich aka "Seva Mogilevich" Net Worth:$5 billion Organization:Russian Mafia Nationality:Ukranian

4.John Difronzo aka "No Nose" Net Worth:$5.2 billion Organization:Chicago Outfit Nationality:Italian

3.Giovanni Motisi aka "U pacchiuni" Net Worth:$5.35 billion Organization:Motisi Mafia Clan Nationality:Italian

2.Edward Sil Gotierelli aka "No Heart" Net Worth:$5.5 billion Organization:Colombo Crime Family Nationality:Italian

1.Dawood Ibrahim Net Worth:$6.7 billion Organization:D - Company Nationality:Indian

who is this Colombo member at #2 ???
What a complete idiotic Joke of an article. Fake news at its finest. :lol:
Difronzo (acording to Fosco) is about 20 to 25 million and that MIGHT even include some of his Brother, who knows.

well...
i think the numbers are way off.... but the players (except this colombo and indian guy) are all known big wigs...


anyone know the indian guy?
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:07 pm who is:

Edward Sil Gotierelli aka "No Heart" Net Worth:$5.5 billion Organization:Colombo Crime Family Nationality:Italian

A made up name. There are a lot of them on mob related wiki entries.


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that's what i figured. im suprised a fake wouls end up on a top ten list tho. what about the indian. pogo, would u say the lists players are accurate tho?
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Sources for this suck. Moe Dalitz is easily worth more money than Tony Salerno. Dalitz died with over $500 million estate. Salerno was said to be worth around $50 million total. No mob boss in the country was worth more than Moe Dalitz...you could take that to the bank.
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JCB1977 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:39 pm Sources for this suck. Moe Dalitz is easily worth more money than Tony Salerno. Dalitz died with over $500 million estate. Salerno was said to be worth around $50 million total. No mob boss in the country was worth more than Moe Dalitz...you could take that to the bank.
thats interesting. Moe Dalitz started in Cleveland with the Myafield Road Mob right? how did he end up in Vegas and what was he doing in Vegas?

is there any connection between Dalitz and the East Coast Families?
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Confederate wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:08 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:07 am i also found this list off of Wiki which i found odd... :

Here is the list of the top 10 richest and most powerful crime bosses.

10.Servando Gomez Martinez aka "La Tuta" Net Worth:$1.2 billion Organization:Knights Templar Cartel Nationality:Mexican

9.Ismael Zambada Garcia aka "El Mayo Zambada" Net Worth:$4.6 billion Organization:Sinaloa Cartel Nationality:Mexican

8.John Ericson Vargas Cardona aka "Sebastian" Net Worth:$4.7 billion Organization:The Office of Envigado Nationality:Colombian

7.Omar Trevino Morales aka "Z-42" Net Worth:$4.75 billion Organization:Los Zetas Nationality:Mexican

6.Matteo Messina Denaro aka "Diabolik" Net Worth:$4.9 billion Organization:Denaro Crime Family Nationality:Italian

5.Semion Mogilevich aka "Seva Mogilevich" Net Worth:$5 billion Organization:Russian Mafia Nationality:Ukranian

4.John Difronzo aka "No Nose" Net Worth:$5.2 billion Organization:Chicago Outfit Nationality:Italian

3.Giovanni Motisi aka "U pacchiuni" Net Worth:$5.35 billion Organization:Motisi Mafia Clan Nationality:Italian

2.Edward Sil Gotierelli aka "No Heart" Net Worth:$5.5 billion Organization:Colombo Crime Family Nationality:Italian

1.Dawood Ibrahim Net Worth:$6.7 billion Organization:D - Company Nationality:Indian

who is this Colombo member at #2 ???
What a complete idiotic Joke of an article. Fake news at its finest. :lol:
Difronzo (acording to Fosco) is about 20 to 25 million and that MIGHT even include some of his Brother, who knows.
I would think even that 20 million is high and billionaire is just a joke as others said. Maybe if you included john and his brother Pete they could get closer to that number of 20. Still seems like a lot though. Huge chunk of that money would be petes legit business
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