Chicago Outfit Lineage Chart 1928-2017

[Snakes]

Obviously, you have a different way of viewing it than I do but here's what I've gathered (from 1957 to the present):

Upper Echelon (Mostly semi-retired members with senior positions of authority but not involved in day-to-day affairs (although there are exceptions). This is the position that the FBI has traditionally dubbed in reports as the "consigliere" position for the Outfit even though most accounts from informants do not specify it as such. However, the individuals below have often been noted as serving in some type of advisory capacity, so their actions are still similar to the East Coast's "consigliere" position, although the men below hold much greater authority.)

1957-1971: Paul Ricca & Tony Accardo
1971-1992: Tony Accardo (I've seen evidence that Aiuppa may have joined Accardo by the early eighties, leaving Cerone to handle the day-to-day affairs)
1992-1997: Joey Aiuppa (imprisoned for most of this time period; I believe John DiFronzo may have joined him as early as 1995, which was when Monteleone was first identified as boss of the Outfit)
1997-early 2010's: John DiFronzo (Andriacchi may have also entered this tier slightly before or after DiFronzo completely stepped down.)
2010's to present: Joseph Andriacchi (It's possible that he is completely removed from Outfit affairs.)
Others of note: Joey Lombardo and Angelo LaPietra possibly served in this capacity simply because their parole restrictions limited the amount of interaction they could have with other Outfit members. In essence, they were in "forced" semi-retirement. They may have also resumed their duties as bosses over the Grand Avenue and South Side territory, respectively, running them through intermediaries, eg., Lombardo>Spina>Cozzo/Vena; A.LaPietra>LaMantia>J.LaPietra/Monteleone. Marco D'Amico is also worth noting, as he may have gained greater influence with Andriacchi's decreased activity and visibility.

Boss
(Simply put, the top guy in charge of "day-to-day" affairs.)

1957-1966: Sam Giancana
1966-1967: Sam Battaglia
1967-1970: Jack Cerone
1970-1973/74: Tony Accardo & Joey Aiuppa, with input from Gus Alex
1973-1986: Joey Aiuppa
1986-1992: Sam Carlisi
1992-1995(?): John DiFronzo
Acting Boss, 1992-1994: Joe Andriacchi
1995-2001: John Monteleone
2001-2007: James Marcello
Acting Boss, 2001-2003: Al Tornabene
2007-2010: Mike Sarno (May have assumed "boss" duties earlier as Marcello was indicted and held without bond in 2005. His feud with Zizzo may have also been over who would act as boss while Marcello was away and, in turn, who would become boss should he be imprisoned.)
2010-Present: Sal DeLaurentis

#2/Underboss/Other High-Ranking Guys
(I am not sure if the Outfit continuously used a #2 guy. Early on they did, but I think there were also guys who weren't identified specifically as such but still held power and respect within the Outfit, moreso than the territorial bosses.)

1957-1964: Frank Ferraro
1964-1966: Sam Battaglia
1966-1971: Phil Alderisio (Chuck Nicoletti also gained some power and influence around this time.)
Early 70s-Mid 70s: Chuck Nicoletti
Mid 70s-1986: Jack Cerone (Cerone may have run the Outfit during Aiuppa's various health problems. It's also possible that Joe Ferriola was involved in some way during this time period before he suffered his own health problems.)
1986-1992: John DiFronzo
1992-2010: This period is really murky as a lot of guys were jockeying for position while many others were imprisoned.
2010-Present: Sal Cataudella and Albert Vena (Street Boss) (I'm unsure of their exact roles as they almost seem redundant. Perhaps Cataudella is just another layer of insulation between DeLaurentis and Vena.)

[Pete]

Here are my thoughts on the positions regarding the adviser role from 1947 until 2009 and also the rest of the positions from the 1930's until 2009... and I also believe that there are no conflicting positions during the same time periods...

Semi-Retired Boss or Adviser

Paul Ricca 1947-1955

Tony Accardo 1956 1971

Gus Alex 1972 1992 first with Tony Accardo until 1983 and later with Joey Aiuppa (imprisoned)

Joey Lombardo 1993 2002

Al Tornabene 2003 2009 (It is also possible that in 2005 or 2006 Marco D’Amico took Tornabene’s position)


Top Boss


Paul Ricca 1933 1943 (imprisoned in 1943 until 1947 together with whole top administration)

Charles Fischetti 1944 1946 (top boss of a Ruling Panel)

Louis Campagna and Paul Ricca (semi-retired) 1947 1955 (Campagna died in 1955)

Paul Ricca and Tony Accardo (semi-retired) 1956 1971 (Sam Giancana held two positions, meaning top boss and boss, from 1959 until 1961 since both Ricca and Accardo had many legal problems) (Ricca was fully retired by 1971 and died in 1972)

Tony Accardo 1971 1983 (at first Accardo was the top boss of a Ruling Panel and by the late 1970’s continued to function as single top boss, who possibly retired in 1983 and died in 1992)

Joseph Aiuppa 1984/85 1997 (imprisoned in 1985 and after Accardo’s alleged retreat, Aiuppa allegedly tried to continue the tradition but the problem was that he was in max security prison and it was hard for him to give any advises or orders. One, and possibly only proof, was his order on the Spilotro murders from prison)

John DiFronzo 1997 2009



Chief Executive or Boss


Louis Campagna 1933 1943

Ruling Panel 1944 1946 Charles Fischetti (top member), Tony Capezio (senior member) and Tony Accardo (acting under boss) (since the top administration was in prison, during this period Fischetti and Capezio allegedly groomed Accardo for the chief executive position)

Tony Accardo 1947 1952 (Accardo briefly stepped down from the chief executive position allegedly because of the uncovering his role in the infamous meat scandal) under Louis Campagna and Paul Ricca (semi-retired)

Tony Capezio 1953 1955 under Louis Campagna and Paul Ricca (semi-retired or adviser)

Tony Accardo 1955 1957 (since Capezio died unexpectedly, Accardo was quickly brought back on his position) under Paul Ricca

Sam Giancana 1957 1965 under Paul Ricca and Tony Accardo (semi-retired or adviser)

Sam Battaglia 1966 1967 (imprisoned in 1967) under Paul Ricca and Tony Accardo (semi-retired or adviser)

Jack Cerone 1967 1970 (imprisoned in 1970) under Paul Ricca (fully retired by 1971) and Tony Accardo (replaced Ricca in 1971 as top boss)

Ruling Panel 1971 1974 Tony Accardo (top member), Joey Aiuppa (chief executive or boss) and Gus Alex (senior member or adviser) (According to one FBI report, in May, 1974, Aiuppa suffered from a serious affliction that involved arthritis in his knees, and has been unable to function due to his lack of capacity to move around. At the same time period, Accardo also spent more time in Palm Springs, so my point is that during this brief period Alex was the only boss of the ruling panel that took care of day to day operations until 1975)

Joey Aiuppa 1975 1985 (imprisoned in 1985) under Tony Accardo

Sam Carlisi 1986 1992 (imprisoned in 1992) under Joey Aiuppa (imprisoned)

Joe Andriacchi 1993 1994 (possible acting boss for John DiFronzo until 1994) under Joey Aiuppa (imprisoned)

John DiFronzo 1995 1997 under Joey Aiuppa (deceased in 1997)

John Monteleone 1998 2001 under John DiFronzo and Joe Andriacchi (full fledged top bosses who shared the same position, same as the late Ricca and Accardo) or possibly DiFronzo was the only top boss

Al Tornabene 2001 2002 under John DiFronzo

Jimmy Marcello 2003 2005 under John DiFronzo (Marcello imprisoned in 2005)

Mike Sarno 2006 2010 under John DiFronzo (Sarno was imprisoned in 2010)


Underboss

Phil D’Andrea 1933 1943 to Louis Campagna

Tony Accardo/Tony Capezio 1944 1946 to Charles Fischetti

Sam Giancana 1947 1952 to Tony Accardo

Sam Giancana 1953 1955 to Tony Capezio

Sam Giancana 1956 1957 to Tony Accardo

Frank Ferraro 1957 1964 to Sam Giancana (Ferraro died in 1964)

Sam Battaglia 1964 1965 to Sam Giancana

Phil Alderisio 1966 1967 to Sam Battaglia

Phil Alderisio 1967 1969 to Jack Cerone

Ruling Panel 1970 1974 Charles Nicoletti (possible acting under boss who by the mid 1970’s was semi-retired or shelved) or Dom DiBella (another possible acting under boss in the Ruling Panel)

Jack Cerone 1975 1985 (imprisoned in 1985) to Joey Aiuppa

John DiFronzo 1986 1992 to Sam Carlisi

John Monteleone 1993 1994 to Joe Andriacchi

Joe Andriacchi 1995 1997 to John DiFronzo

Joe Andriacchi 1998 2001 to John Monteleone

Joe Andriacchi 2002 2005 to Jimmy Marcello

Joe Andriacchi 2006 2009 to Mike Sarno

Aiuppa ordered the spilotro hit before he went to prison. According to nick calabrese aiuppa and lapietra specifically wanted it done before they went away

[Villain]

@Dwalin2014 I think by 1930 Capone was still fresh out of the conflict, and so he hijacked the position of the previously established Sicilian Mafia and some of them joined him. One of the Gentile documents says that even though LoVerde was considered the main representative for the Chicago family, still by that same year Capone was in fact the real power. It is possible that some of national Sicilian bosses didnt liked him or trusted him much and maybe some were afraid of him and that's why at first he had a Sicilian representative who by 1931 I believe was replaced by Ricca as the main representative for the Capone Mob. You see, even though he created national contacts, still Ricca belonged to the so-called second layer at the time which was mostly formed by the West Side faction, and the first or top layer was formed by the so-called Cicero and South Side factions with Capone at the top, Nitto (First Ward), Ralph (Cicero) and Guzik (Loop and South Side). So when Capone, Nitto, together with the Cicero and South Side factions began having legal troubles, that's when the West Side faction came on the scene and the guy who they regularly saw, meaning the NY bosses and Ricca, was placed as head of the organization since they obviously felt safer from every angle with Capone being in jail. It doesnt mean nothing if Ricca wasnt mention during the trials, since even later during the Hollywood trial, neither Accardo nor Giancana were ever mentioned.

@Snakes thats some good info but I have to disagree with you on one thing and that's the start of your chart, meaning the year, because in 1957, we have informants stating that Ricca was the Man after Campagna's death and Giancana was the boss. So I dont have Accardo anywhere being mentioned but since Cerone became a crew boss at the time and many reports say that he was constantly backed by Accardo, means that the old man was still around. Now what was his role during this period I really dont know, but Im almost positive that Ricca was at the top and there was nobody around him. When Ricca went to jail in 1959, three months after his imprisonment, Accardo and Giancana were discussing commission members and matters and the old man somehow also advised his successor. In 1962 Accardo was having legal troubles and Ricca was fresh out of jail and so there was a short time period where GIancana held the two positions, meaning the boss and also the top boss, somewhere until 1963 where we have documents stating that both Ricca and Giancana were involved in commission matters with Ricca having the last word regarding Chicago's side or vote, meaning the top boss and boss positions were brought back in full effect, but again no Accardo. But still we have him on numerous wiretapped convos consulting other members, giving out contracts to captains, which to me it looks like more of role between the top boss, boss and the rest of the organization. He was constantly seen with Ricca obviously because Giancana wasnt much around. Also I dont trust FBI's consigliere term at the time regarding the Outfit since on one memo they have Accardo and Ricca on the boss position, Cerone as underboss and Alderisio as "consigliere". And on other documents they have Cerone as former LCN boss regarding the same period and Alderisio as underboss. Again good info but we also have to figure out the nearly 20 year murky period regarding the underboss position


@Pete thanks for the correction but do we have any info of Aiuppa doing something from prison or was he completely cut off from all contacts while being imprisoned?

[SILENT PARTNERZ]

I've seen many charts that show a top boss, with a personal underboss.
Then, under that level - Crew bosses of each territory, with a personal UB
Then above all, or to the side- Ricca/Accardo, then later on, just Accardo.

[Snakes]

This "personal underboss" thing is a Don/Chicago/elmwoodparker fabrication. They were just #2's or drivers.

[Frank]

This "personal underboss" thing is a Don/Chicago/elmwoodparker fabrication. They were just #2's or drivers.

Yes I've heard about the personal Underboss term also. Never really knew if it was accurate. One take on it was that it was the member in charge of the crew when that Capo or area boss was in the administration.

[Frank]

This "personal underboss" thing is a Don/Chicago/elmwoodparker fabrication. They were just #2's or drivers.

Yes I've heard about the personal Underboss term also. Never really knew if it was accurate. One take on it was that it was the member in charge of the crew when that Capo or area boss was in the administration.

Wasn't it Don and Fosco that insisted that Giacanna was still the boss of Outfit when he was killed. Also that Giancana had more authority than Accardo since 1957and that Accardo was never top boss of Outfit

[Villain]

In addition to my previous message, I also believe that in 1952/53 Accardo stepped down to a crew boss (one proof was a wiretapped convo which occurred later "Accardo picked too many lugs, too many palookas, like that Siciliano. We should have put that guy’s legs in cement." ) for the Elmwood Park crew since there were two guys already at the top, meaning Ricca and Campagna, and the previous crew boss Tony Capezio took the boss position, as for Cerone it was obviously too early for him. The main proof for Campagna being the real power at the time, besides a couple of docs and paper clips, was Giancanas rise who in turn was Campagnas underling and controlled the so-called Taylor St group and the north part of the Cicero area. So lets see what was Riccas role at the time: control over the political West Side Bloc, control over the unions through Pete Fosco, answering questions infront of senate committees, being in conflict with some of the NY Jewish gamgsters regarding Florida rackets etc. So this shows that even though Campagna was the top boss, still Ricca held huge power, near to Campagnas but still Ricca took a step back and with his union and political connections and troubles, he took some kind of adviser role. When Little NY died in 55 and later Capezio also joined him, Giancana, the underboss, gave his loyalty to the next in line top boss, which was Ricca (proof for that are the numerous joint operations regarding commission matters) and at the same time Accardo returned as boss, who together with Ricca groomed Giancana to replace Accardo, who same as Ricca in the previous case, had too much heat over his head and took some kind of semi-retired or advising role, which lasted until the late 1960's or 1971.

[Antiliar]

Regarding Capezio and Accardo, we have to be careful with some of these reports. Since we don't know who gave the information, we don't know how accurate it is. We don't know how they learned the info, from whom, and if some confusion occurred getting from one person to another. There is a logic that isn't working for me. If Accardo was pulled down because he screwed up, why would he get another promotion to the top just a couple years later? In other examples that we're aware of, like Jim De George, when the person was demoted from caporegime to soldier, that person never became a capo again. Rocco DeGrazia may be another example. Plus every other boss remained boss unless he died, retired or went to prison. The exception was Cerone, who was a boss until he went to prison and while he was in prison Aiuppa took the top spot. Cerone, we're told, didn't want to be boss anymore so let Aiuppa keep his position.

[Villain]

Regarding Capezio and Accardo, we have to be careful with some of these reports. Since we don't know who gave the information, we don't know how accurate it is. We don't know how they learned the info, from whom, and if some confusion occurred getting from one person to another. There is a logic that isn't working for me. If Accardo was pulled down because he screwed up, why would he get another promotion to the top just a couple years later? In other examples that we're aware of, like Jim De George, when the person was demoted from caporegime to soldier, that person never became a capo again. Rocco DeGrazia may be another example. Plus every other boss remained boss unless he died, retired or went to prison. The exception was Cerone, who was a boss until he went to prison and while he was in prison Aiuppa took the top spot. Cerone, we're told, didn't want to be boss anymore so let Aiuppa keep his position.

I think that both Ricca and Campagna somehow owed to Accardo for him previously being their main messenger while they were imprisoned and also managed to help in maintaining their power over the organization while being absent. So when he allegedly screw thing up with the meat scandal, a lot of dissatisfaction occurred among the ranks and this is backed by one wiretapped convo, and few old newspaper clips. We also talked about the bullet which allegedly went over Accardos head and you stated that the whole thing had nothing to do with him but instead it was allegedly a nearby family brawl. I also believe that some of that same dissatisfaction began back in 1951, when Accardo made his first dumb move by buying a huge mansion. So no matter the reason, my personal belief is that because of all the heat, Accardo took a step back possibly on his own request but since the top was already full and he still possessed a lot of power, i strongly believe that he simply switched places with his mentor. On March 30, 1952, the Chicago Tribune published an article named “RICCA REPLACES ACCARDO AS TOP SYNDICATE BOSS!” The article stated that information allegedly came from reliable underworld sources that Accardo has been ousted for bungling the Outfit’s handling of the horse meat and cigarette tax stamp rackets. So thats one report of Accardo allegedly stepping down and there are also two more docs on MF stating a similar situation. I also believe that the "lucky" moment for Accardo, which made the whole situation rare or one in a million, was the sudden or unexpected deaths of both Capezio and Campagna which occurred in the same year, meaning they suffered the losses of a top boss and a boss. So it sounds quite logical for me regarding Accardos second step up while he and Ricca groomed Giancana for that same position which was formalized more than a year later. What can I say, in my eyes Accardo is always somehow of a "special case" who always received respect from his peers more than the usual. So I think we cannot compare Accardo with DeGeorge, the guy whose crew created a rebelion or with Cerone who went to prison, a situation that never happened to Accardo. And if you really think about it, Giancana was a similar case who if you ask me should've been killed during the 1960's but instead he was brought down from day to day boss and was given to him one of the most lucrative operations at the time and while being most of the time out of the country, he still met with high profile members in Chi and NY or sometimes they visited him down in Mexico, meaning he wasnt exactly a soldier nor a semi-retired boss.

Regarding Capezio, I believe that you already saw the previously mentioned MF docs ( I know there are more than few conflicting reports but still all of the docs are mentioning some kind of change... the first doc has Accardo as top boss https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... o_giancana ; the second doc doesnt say much but it only says "deceased syndicate boss" https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pezio_boss ; and the third again mentions Capezio as boss https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... pezio_boss ) and I agree with your statement but the thing is thats the only info which we have by now untill something new comes up. But i also have to add that one of the informants gave some accurate info such as Giancana being the boss of Cicero (probably the north section) and central West Side and Potenza being in the Northwest section. Also even though they were allegedly forbidden to be present because of media and fbi coverage since Campagnas funeral, still the only two high profile mobsters who showed up at Capezios were Giancana and Maddox. Im saying this because Maddox was his old friend and I believe that Giancana was the underboss at the time who came to show respect for his alleged boss among the hundreds of attendees. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... o_giancana

As for DeGrazia, i really dont remember but i think that from time to time he represented Battaglia on a couple of meetings and he was somehow considered like an elder statesman for the huge MP crew...but as i previously stated that i have to recheck

[Antiliar]

The informant did give good information, but not all of it. He said that Accardo wasn't a Mafia member and for that reason couldn't have been "The Man," yet we know for multiple sources that Accardo went to Commission meetings when he was the boss. There's no way he could have sat on the Commission if he hadn't been made. We also can see that several dates are off. Capezio couldn't have been "The Boss" from 1952 to 1957 if he died in 1955. Moreover, Bill Bonanno confirmed that Accardo announced his retirement to the Commission before he actually did, so Giancana didn't force him out. The evidence shows that Accardo wanted Giancana to succeed him and it was a smooth transition. Accardo continued to school Giancana for several years after he retired, something he wouldn't do if Accardo was forced out.

I think the source had inside knowledge, but made a lot of guesses and jumped to conclusions about areas he had less access to. It suggests that the informant may not have been a made guy, but someone who knew a lot of made guys and had been around them for a while. He probably heard stories and passed those along. It sounded like he more knowledge of certain crews than others, with almost none on the Chinatown or Chicago Heights crews. He was a decent source, but not everything he said can be taken at face value.

[Pete]

My hang up with a lot of these terms and designations is many of them don't fall in line with what we have heard from the only made member we have that testified about the structure of the outfit. You could say maybe nick didn't know everything because he wasn't that high up or whatever but I think the most weight has to be given to what he has said. He never said there was any position as consigliere which makes me skeptical of articles that claim someone is. As snakes said maybe it was a position used after that time frame but we still haven't heard for sure that there is such a position. Many of these other positions and designations people speculate on I think of the same way. Also I wouldn't consider the Mary Farrell files the be all end all. As pointed out there have been many things in there that don't jive. There's also numerous FBI files that I have that says joe ferriola was the boss when we know he never was. These are things that have been put out there by sources but that by no means should be taken as proof of anything

[Confederate]

My hang up with a lot of these terms and designations is many of them don't fall in line with what we have heard from the only made member we have that testified about the structure of the outfit. You could say maybe nick didn't know everything because he wasn't that high up or whatever but I think the most weight has to be given to what he has said. He never said there was any position as consigliere which makes me skeptical of articles that claim someone is. As snakes said maybe it was a position used after that time frame but we still haven't heard for sure that there is such a position. Many of these other positions and designations people speculate on I think of the same way. Also I wouldn't consider the Mary Farrell files the be all end all. As pointed out there have been many things in there that don't jive. There's also numerous FBI files that I have that says joe ferriola was the boss when we know he never was. These are things that have been put out there by sources but that by no means should be taken as proof of anything

Yes, I agree. The endless speculation and debate over who FITS into some of these terms becomes ridiculous after awhile. LOL
This Consigliere term is really more of a New York thing in my opinion. Seems like retired or semi-retired older high level guys in Chicago were simply Advisors to the to Top Bosses and also to the current active Crew Boss of the Crew that the Advisor use to actively head. I think TRYING to make Chicago FIT into the exact same structure and terminology as New York is a waste of time. LOL
The Mary Farrell files are most certainly better than nothing but are not completely accurate since the information comes from different informers who are either guessing or just giving their opinion in order to tell the Feds something.

[Villain]

The informant did give good information, but not all of it. He said that Accardo wasn't a Mafia member and for that reason couldn't have been "The Man," yet we know for multiple sources that Accardo went to Commission meetings when he was the boss. There's no way he could have sat on the Commission if he hadn't been made. We also can see that several dates are off. Capezio couldn't have been "The Boss" from 1952 to 1957 if he died in 1955. Moreover, Bill Bonanno confirmed that Accardo announced his retirement to the Commission before he actually did, so Giancana didn't force him out. The evidence shows that Accardo wanted Giancana to succeed him and it was a smooth transition. Accardo continued to school Giancana for several years after he retired, something he wouldn't do if Accardo was forced out.

I think the source had inside knowledge, but made a lot of guesses and jumped to conclusions about areas he had less access to. It suggests that the informant may not have been a made guy, but someone who knew a lot of made guys and had been around them for a while. He probably heard stories and passed those along. It sounded like he more knowledge of certain crews than others, with almost none on the Chinatown or Chicago Heights crews. He was a decent source, but not everything he said can be taken at face value.

I get you man, believe me, and thats why I previously stated that there are many conflicting infos and Im also quite aware of the situation that some infos should be taken with few grains of salt. Even though in some of the reports its stated that Accardo was forced, I personally never said that kind of thing but instead I said that I believe he took a step back by his own request. It was some kind of strategy so they can isolate him from the law and they succeeded. Also I dont know anything about the NY mob but wasnt Bill made during the mid 1950's, meaning there's no way for him to know what happened during that period in Chicago or the commission. Again regarding Capezio, its just too hard for me let go such info which it doesnt occur in only one document, but instead there are several. I mean there are always at lest few conflicting reports in almost every FBI file regarding any mobster, especially regarding the 40's and 50's, but still or in the end, people like us form a middle opinion based on logic from all the infos mixed up together.

[Villain]

My hang up with a lot of these terms and designations is many of them don't fall in line with what we have heard from the only made member we have that testified about the structure of the outfit. You could say maybe nick didn't know everything because he wasn't that high up or whatever but I think the most weight has to be given to what he has said. He never said there was any position as consigliere which makes me skeptical of articles that claim someone is. As snakes said maybe it was a position used after that time frame but we still haven't heard for sure that there is such a position. Many of these other positions and designations people speculate on I think of the same way. Also I wouldn't consider the Mary Farrell files the be all end all. As pointed out there have been many things in there that don't jive. There's also numerous FBI files that I have that says joe ferriola was the boss when we know he never was. These are things that have been put out there by sources but that by no means should be taken as proof of anything

Yes, I agree. The endless speculation and debate over who FITS into some of these terms becomes ridiculous after awhile. LOL
This Consigliere term is really more of a New York thing in my opinion. Seems like retired or semi-retired older high level guys in Chicago were simply Advisors to the to Top Bosses and also to the current active Crew Boss of the Crew that the Advisor use to actively head. I think TRYING to make Chicago FIT into the exact same structure and terminology as New York is a waste of time. LOL
The Mary Farrell files are most certainly better than nothing but are not completely accurate since the information comes from different informers who are either guessing or just giving their opinion in order to tell the Feds something.

Its good that you changed your first post bro, because believe me it was a little bit offensive. I mean I dont look at the records as some "Bible" as you previously stated and then deleted it, and Chicago had nothing to do with NY's hierarchy at the time and we can debate about this whenever you want and believe me I have backing, meaning records, media coverage, videos and everything. So prepare your self please. You previously threw a label such as "Acting bosses for their crews" wow.....let me tell you a story about people who came around these forums and represented themselves as sons or daughters to Don Vito Corleone and threw around labels and allegedly hardcore and obviously unbased information, but sooner or later some were uncovered and never returned again. But the ones who managed to get through by changing their nicknames continuously share their same old stories, meaning the point of this story is thats how myths are created, mostly by people who believe them. Its better for me for someone to post some old article or conflicting fbi record, rather than his own, again, unbased statement, like they walked the streets during those days. So FBI records are NOT "most certainly better than nothing" but instead its the best thing we have, followed by wiretapped convos which occurred later and old newspaper articles regarding the era before the FBi started planting bugs. So after you finish reading all of those infos, that's when you have the right to create your own opinion and fight for it until someone proves you wrong with records which you might've missed.