Kicking up

[Slava]

Being made is simply the license to steal.
You still have to go out and do the stealing.

The more I read about the modern American LCN, the more I wonder why anyone would like to become a made guy these days. Wouldn't it be much easier to pursue a criminal career independently with a small crew of your own?

I mean what can the mob really give you these days? Protection? Not really, those guys are old and don't have neither the manpower nor the clout that they use to have. Instead, they'll likely just rat you out and get you RICO'd. Most of their rackets are local illegal gambling rings where you have to actually bust your ass to earn money, it's basically like a real job only that you can get in jail for it.

I understand that it was different back in the Goodfellas days when it was indeed a licence to steal and they controlled Italian-American neighborhoods and could kill people if they didn't give them a cut, but as it is right now they're not scary at all.

They're old as hell too. I wonder how they can even maintain discipline and enforce people to give them their share. If you tell them to fuck off, what the hell could they even do about it? Are they going to send some fat 60 year old to kill you and hope that he doesn't have a heart attack?

If you look at the European organized crime groups it's a bunch of dangerous men in their 20s and 30s while looking at those charts that you post here the American LCN looks like a retirement club.

[Confederate]

Being made is simply the license to steal.
You still have to go out and do the stealing.

The more I read about the modern American LCN, the more I wonder why anyone would like to become a made guy these days. Wouldn't it be much easier to pursue a criminal career independently with a small crew of your own?

I mean what can the mob really give you these days? Protection? Not really, those guys are old and don't have neither the manpower nor the clout that they use to have. Instead, they'll likely just rat you out and get you RICO'd. Most of their rackets are local illegal gambling rings where you have to actually bust your ass to earn money, it's basically like a real job only that you can get in jail for it.

I understand that it was different back in the Goodfellas days when it was indeed a licence to steal and they controlled Italian-American neighborhoods and could kill people if they didn't give them a cut, but as it is right now they're not scary at all.

They're old as hell too. I wonder how they can even maintain discipline and enforce people to give them their share. If you tell them to fuck off, what the hell could they even do about it? Are they going to send some fat 60 year old to kill you and hope that he doesn't have a heart attack?

If you look at the European organized crime groups it's a bunch of dangerous men in their 20s and 30s while looking at those charts that you post here the American LCN looks like a retirement club.

Again, what you said is only PARTIALLY true but not completely true. You have to SEPERATE the New York 5 Families from the 5 other small Families.
There is a big difference between the Genovese Family and whatever is left of the Detroit Family.

[Wiseguy]

Being made is simply the license to steal.
You still have to go out and do the stealing.

The more I read about the modern American LCN, the more I wonder why anyone would like to become a made guy these days. Wouldn't it be much easier to pursue a criminal career independently with a small crew of your own?

I mean what can the mob really give you these days? Protection? Not really, those guys are old and don't have neither the manpower nor the clout that they use to have. Instead, they'll likely just rat you out and get you RICO'd. Most of their rackets are local illegal gambling rings where you have to actually bust your ass to earn money, it's basically like a real job only that you can get in jail for it.

I understand that it was different back in the Goodfellas days when it was indeed a licence to steal and they controlled Italian-American neighborhoods and could kill people if they didn't give them a cut, but as it is right now they're not scary at all.

They're old as hell too. I wonder how they can even maintain discipline and enforce people to give them their share. If you tell them to fuck off, what the hell could they even do about it? Are they going to send some fat 60 year old to kill you and hope that he doesn't have a heart attack?

If you look at the European organized crime groups it's a bunch of dangerous men in their 20s and 30s while looking at those charts that you post here the American LCN looks like a retirement club.

There are still plenty of relatively younger guys, made or not, who can give the beatings. And just about anyone can pull a trigger regardless of their age.