Kicking up

[Eddie mush]

Hey guys just wondering does any1 know how the kicking up process works . Is it a set amount every week / month , is it s percentage . Possible a percentage with a minimum ?? Depending on which rats you see on tv or what you read its all diffrent . Any1 have any thoughts

[Pogo The Clown]

Like you said it is different. It depends on the family, the Boss, the crew and the time period.


Pogo

[JeremyTheJew]

does remind me of the scene in donnie Brasco when sonny black is yelling at them and he says: "i gotta answer to 10 grand a month"

[Pogo The Clown]

Welcome to the NFL rookie.


Pogo

[Wiseguy]

does remind me of the scene in donnie Brasco when sonny black is yelling at them and he says: "i gotta answer to 10 grand a month"

I think in the film Sonny Black said it was $50,000 a month.

[Eddie mush]

Yea i recall that he said $50 K
Sopranos paulie tell chriss $5K every wk and watever is left over is his weather its alot of a little

But for real life both franzess and henry hill say kick up wat u can .

[JeremyTheJew]

5g a month for chris to kick to paulie?

or chris to tony? id think 5g to a boss would be small but for a smaller family its not so bad i guess

[Pogo The Clown]

5g a month for chris to kick to paulie?

or chris to tony? id think 5g to a boss would be small but for a smaller family its not so bad i guess

It was Chris to Paulie since Paulie was his Capo.


Pogo

[PHL_Mob]

I know collections are weekly and then my guess is they kick up a percentage of their monthly take at the first of every month. I've noticed at some places I hang that the guys that are with certain connected guys always come by every Wednesday night at 6PM on the dot like clockwork. So basically they collect every week and then either send 10% of that upstairs at the end of the week or the first of every month depending on what what level it's going to. But for instance, I bet someone is going down to FL with Joey's envelope at the beginning of every month and not weekly. And then most likely weekly kick up at the Associate to Solider level and then most likely weekly for the soldier to Capo level as well. Also, I bet there is a minimum regardless of how much you made that week/month and if you lost money or made money. Remember that scene in The Sopranos (Pogo is quoting Paulie in this scene in his post above) where Christopher has to rob a college benefit concert in order to make his weekly kick-up quota to Paulie despite losing a money that week on his sports book.

[Pogo The Clown]

Remember that scene in The Sopranos (Pogo is quoting Paulie in this scene in his post above) where Christopher has to rob a college benefit concert in order to make his weekly kick-up quota to Paulie despite losing a money that week on his sports book.

This being made ain't working out the way I thought it would. A lot of responsibilities. You're only as fuckin' smart as this week's lines. One false move and you spend your fuckin' time chasing it instead of making money.


Pogo

[Jonkaro]

With the FBI listening to every shit they take, I'd say collections are probably no more monthly at random intervals. No one wants to risk getting caught with a large sum of cash. .. . The latest indictments I can recall all have business collections being done each month at a set amount. (ie. $300/mo for poker machines in one of the more recent Patriarca indictments)

[HairyKnuckles]

Any soldier is obligated to "touch base" with his skipper on a regular basis. When they meet, the skipper will require his soldier to report what income and what racket he has. Usually they come to an agreement of what the soldier will kick up depending on the situation. If the soldier has a large, successful racket, the skipper will demand a large kick up. But if the soldier is not earning or perhaps just recently been released from jail, the kick up will be smaller or in some case non. So it all depends on what the situation the soldier is in and what the situation is between the soldier and the skipper.

Skippers kick up depending on their relationship with the boss. But they are expected to kick up a larger amount of money at Christmas time, 4th of July or perhaps at the boss´s birthday as a sign of respect. It´s an unwritten rule. A skipper who needs a favor from his boss, will kick up more and a skipper who kicks up insignificantly will be marginalized or in some cases demoted by the boss.

In the past, some bosses have imposed a tax on all members. Profaci did it. Gambino did it. Vito Genovese did when he was jailed etc. And more recently, Massino did it when he was arrested and tried in the early 2000s. Informants have said, back in the 1960s, that it was an amount of 10 dollars per member and slightly higher for capos and that the money was supposed to be used for legal expenses for members. But of course, the payouts from these "funds" would relay on the boss´s generosity. Gambino for example, used thsese funds for own purposes.

[Confederate]

From what I read, some made guys were actually in partnership with their Capo on a large ongoing enterprise. Other guys operated separately from their Boss but had to get permission from him before they started anything. In addition, some scams would come up periodically and that is when they would report to their Boss what the scam involved and what was earned from it. For guys who operated not in direct partnership with their Boss, It seemed like it was better for them to kick up a percentage of the profit because then he could understate it rather than be tied to a specific amount.
Also, some made guys got some money loaned to them from their Boss and would put it out on the street. An agreed upon percentage was discussed ahead of time.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Being made is simply the license to steal.
You still have to go out and do the stealing.

[Confederate]

Being made is simply the license to steal.
You still have to go out and do the stealing.

Yes, very true. A very expensive license many times.