Genovese mobsters nabbed for gambling, loan-sharking, cigarette smuggling

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The two high level informers in the Chicao Outfit is true. It was mentioned in an article some years back. We just don't know who they are.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:18 pm The two high level informers in the Chicago Outfit is true. It was mentioned in an article some years back. We just don't know who they are.

Do we have the article?

I'd be interested in how it was phrased and their source etc.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:32 pm Do we have the article?

I'd be interested in how it was phrased and their source etc.

Here you go.


http://abc7chicago.com/archive/7446674/
Federal authorities in Chicago have been cultivating information from two "upper echelon" members of the Outfit for decades, according to a court filing in a current Mob prosecution.
The existence of a pair of Mob moles, called "Confidential Informant One" and "Confidential Informant Two," were disclosed by the defense team in an Outfit-related bombing conspiracy.

"Confidential Informant One is an alleged upper echelon member of the 'Outfit' and has been providing information to the government for over 25 years" states the court filing.

Confidential Informant Two is "another upper echelon Outfit associate who had been providing information to the government since 1994."
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Is there substance to that, or is it just rumour?
If it was just a rumor I wouldn't have thought it worth mentioning. See the article below -

Feds have two top informants inside Chicago mob

http://abc7chicago.com/archive/7446674/
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I don't believe it is/was DiFronzo. They wouldn't have used "alleged" to describe his status since it's been known for years that he has been part of Outfit leadership.
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Snakes wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:41 pm I don't believe it is/was DiFronzo. They wouldn't have used "alleged" to describe his status since it's been known for years that he has been part of Outfit leadership.
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This makes no sense to me. If they were top level informants why would the Feds reveal this? Isn't that putting the informants' lives and families in jeopardy? Am I missing something? The link wiseguy posted makes it seem like the informants were made up to substantiate how the Feds obtained evidence.
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Thanks P and WG.

Is it worth noting that it was lodged by the defence, their existence?
It appears the Feds have never themselves stated they had an informat/s.

I'm curious as to how the defence would have that information.

How credible should we take it?
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I'd say it is credible. We know for MF and other places that the feds have had member informants in all the families going back to the 50s.


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They may have used info from informants in the proffer. Obviously, they didn't use anything from them in the actual trial or they would have testified. Probably thought the case was tight enough without unmasking the informants.
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Snakes wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:41 pm I don't believe it is/was DiFronzo. They wouldn't have used "alleged" to describe his status since it's been known for years that he has been part of Outfit leadership.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Journalists sometimes use terms like "alleged" or "reputed," sometimes they don't. Both were used at times for John Gotti, who's position in the mob was hardly a secret. Anyway, it may be that DiFronzo is not one of those informers. But, if that's the case, he's had a rather unusual and long run of good luck over the past 25 years. Especially considering he was among those identified by Nick Calabrese as being present when the Spilotros were killed.
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I'm not necessarily arguing against him being it but he did serve two years in prison in the mid-nineties and would have served several more if not for a successful appeal. Louis Marino was also named by Calabrese as being present but, unlike Marcello's involvement, lacked the corroborating evidence which could have resulted in a conviction.
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Wiseguy wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:45 am
Snakes wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:41 pm I don't believe it is/was DiFronzo. They wouldn't have used "alleged" to describe his status since it's been known for years that he has been part of Outfit leadership.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything. Journalists sometimes use terms like "alleged" or "reputed," sometimes they don't. Both were used at times for John Gotti, who's position in the mob was hardly a secret. Anyway, it may be that DiFronzo is not one of those informers. But, if that's the case, he's had a rather unusual and long run of good luck over the past 25 years. Especially considering he was among those identified by Nick Calabrese as being present when the Spilotros were killed.
@Wiseguy, There was some kind of video several years ago by some reporter in Chicago who tried to interview DiFronzo leaving a restaurant where he had lunch with his brother Pete DiFronzo and Marco DiAmico. Seems to me that DiFronzo had no worries at all meeting there with those two along with a few other guys right out in the open.
After 1994, Didn't DiFronzo take a back seat to everybody? I agree with you that it is quite plausible that DiFronzo made a deal with the Feds to retire from the Outfit and give them information in return for being left alone. In the Family Secrets Trial, the Feds DIDN'T EVEN TRY to indict DiFronzo. Doesn't MATTER if they did not have a corroborating witness. Look how many times the Feds TRIED to convict John Gotti before they finally got him. They didn't EVEN TRY with DiFronzo?
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Snakes wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:03 pm I'm not necessarily arguing against him being it but he did serve two years in prison in the mid-nineties and would have served several more if not for a successful appeal. Louis Marino was also named by Calabrese as being present but, unlike Marcello's involvement, lacked the corroborating evidence which could have resulted in a conviction.
Then why did the Feds TRY to indict Gotti SEVERAL times without any corroborating evidence before they finally got him with Gravano?
The Feds ALWAYS try. They didn't even try with DiFronzo. Seems really odd? Marino was already in Jail during the Family Secrets Trial so mentioning him I would think is irrelevant. It looked like the Feds DIDN'T WANT to take a chance of getting a conviction against DiFronzo because they needed him on the street, at least at that time. Isn't he senile now?
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Another mobster who made out nice from selling NYC real estate:

Genovese soldier busted for failing to report $2M in capital gains from selling real estate

A 77-year-old Brooklyn mobster was a true wiseguy when it came to making deals in a hot real estate market — but he was a real dummy about paying taxes, authorities say.

Salvatore "Sallie" DeMeo was busted on tax-evasion charges Thursday as Brooklyn federal prosecutors claim he failed to report $2 million in capital gains. The reputed Genovese soldier also stiffed Uncle Sam out of $367,000 in taxes, prosecutors say.

The oldfella is making a quick return trip to the halls of justice. Just last month, DeMeo pleaded guilty in Brooklyn Supreme Court to his role in a loansharking and gambling racket and was sentenced to five years probation.
Salvatore "Sallie" DeMeo.

The new tax charges aren't mob-related, but prosecutors call the Brooklyn resident a "longtime, loyal member" of the Genovese crime family. His past includes a 2002 Brooklyn federal court plea connected to a bank stick-up and an armored car heist.

DeMeo inherited shares on the valuable swatches of downtown Brooklyn land from his dad, the indictment said.

Between 2013 and 2014, he and others sold off all their shares of the property along Atlantic Avenue, Pacific Street, Bond Street and Schermerhorn Street for $18.2 million.

But DeMeo didn't want the feds dipping into his share, prosecutors say.

As a result, he had the checks on his proceeds cut into eight bite-sized portions and he put most of the money in accounts that weren't his, prosecutors charged.

For example, he deposited about $1 million in a plumbing business he didn't own. Prosecutors said DeMeo kept it all in the family because the business was operated by another Genovese member.

DeMeo is also suspected of cutting a $355,000 check to a person with an unlicensed check-cashing business. The money — minus a fee — funneled back to DeMeo, according to court papers.

He is scheduled to be arraigned Thursday afternoon. Federal guidelines say the graying gangster could face more than three years in prison if convicted.

"Organized crime members are on notice that this Office and its law enforcement partners will hold them accountable for such economic crimes no less than for their traditional schemes and offenses," Brooklyn Executive U.S. Attorney William Muller said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bro ... -1.3558645
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