5 Families Circa 1930

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5 Families Circa 1930

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Here are charts of the 5 families just before the Castellammare War broke out in case Christie ever wants to make a chart for this period. As you can imagine the info was limited for this period and a lot of the Capos are guess work. Thanks to Christie, Antiliar and the other early peiod researchers for some of this info.


As always any additions or corrections welcome.
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Masseria Family:


Boss: Giuseppe "Joe the Boss" Masseria (1922-1931) Killed.
UnderBoss: Guiseppe "Peter/The Clutch Hand" Morello
Consigliere: Saverio “Sam” Pollaccia


Capos:
Anthony "Little Augie Pisano" Carfano – Brooklyn
Salvatore “Charlie/Lucky Luciano” Lucania - Manhattan
Anthony Miranda – Brooklyn
Quarico "Willie Moore" Moretti – North Jersey
Rocco Pellegrino – Manhattan
Ciro “The Artichoke King” Terranova - East Harlem and the Bronx


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D’Aquila-Mineo Family:


Boss: Manfredi "Al” Mineo
UnderBoss: Stefano "Steve" Ferrigno


Capos:
?-Albert Anastasia – Brooklyn
?-Joseph “Joe Bandy” Biondo - Manhattan
Francisco "Frank" Castellano – Brooklyn
Joseph Castellano – Brooklyn
?-Salvatore “Toto” Chirico
Vincenzo "Jimmy" DiLeonardo – Brooklyn and Manhattan
?-Accursio Domino – Manhattan
James “Jimmy Marino” LePore – The Bronx?
Carmelo LiConti – Queens?
Vincenzo "Vincent" Mangano – Brooklyn
Giuseppe "Don Pidduzzu" Parlapiano – Manhattan, Brooklyn and the Bronx
?-Simone Riccobono – Brooklyn and Staten Island
Francesco "Frank/Don Cheech" Scalise – The Bronx
Giuseppe Traina – Brooklyn
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Castellammare Family:


Boss: Nicola “Cola” Schiro
UnderBoss: ?????


Capos:
Vito Bonventre – Brooklyn
Angelo Caruso – Manhattan and North Jersey?
?-Frank Italiano
?-Phillipe Rapa
Dominick “Mimi” Sabella – Manhattan, Brooklyn and the Bronx
?-John Tartamella Sr. - Brooklyn



Reina Family:


Boss: Gaetano "Tom" Reina
UnderBoss: Tommaso "Tom/Masi" Gagliano


Capos:
?-John DiCarlo
?-Stefano LaSalle – East Harlem
?-Gaetano "Tommy/Three Finger Brown" Lucchese – The Bronx
?-Vincent "Nunzio" Rao – The Bronx
?-Stefano "Steve" Ronnelli – The Bronx

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Profaci Family:


Bosses: Giuseppe "Joe" Profaci
UnderBoss: Giuseppe "Joe Malyack" Magliocco


Capos:
?- Charles “Charlie the Sidge” LoCicero - Brooklyn
?- Salvatore “Sally the Sheik” Mussachio – Brooklyn
?-John “Johnny Bath Beach” Oddo – Brooklyn
Salvatore Profaci – Brooklyn
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I was thinking more of the Five Families c1931, when Luciano, Bonanno, Profaci, Mangano and Gagliano where running them.
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Let's do this one as well. It'll be quick and I have a format in mind which I want to do different from 31-32.

A few things:
1) Vito Genovese is a captain at this point
2) Not notpicking but I'm not sure we confirmed what Ferrigno's actual rank was. Although all the indications for underboss are there.
3) Not sure when DiBella stepped down and Profaci became boss but I suspect a pretty good time would have been when Mineo was killed in 1930. I know this conflicts with what Joe Bonanno said (that he was boss prior) and he took it upon himself to shoot down Valachi's claim that Profaci was a gunman during the war.

4) I'll need specific streets or intersections that they were on. Masseria and Luciano were on the Lower East Side, Morello and Terranova were E Harlem around 116th etc.

I'm thinking something along the lines of:
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Chris Christie wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:56 pm Let's do this one as well. It'll be quick and I have a format in mind which I want to do different from 31-32.

A few things:
1) Vito Genovese is a captain at this point
2) Not notpicking but I'm not sure we confirmed what Ferrigno's actual rank was. Although all the indications for underboss are there.
3) Not sure when DiBella stepped down and Profaci became boss but I suspect a pretty good time would have been when Mineo was killed in 1930. I know this conflicts with what Joe Bonanno said (that he was boss prior) and he took it upon himself to shoot down Valachi's claim that Profaci was a gunman during the war.

4) I'll need specific streets or intersections that they were on. Masseria and Luciano were on the Lower East Side, Morello and Terranova were E Harlem around 116th etc.

I'm thinking something along the lines of:
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On #3, I believe Valachi said that Profaci visited the safe house/apartment he was staying at and gave them background info about the war. Bonanno went out of his way to distance himself from Valachi, so I imagine he was trying to do the same for Profaci given their close ties.
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Some things could have been due to falty memory. I've always maintained that he was made no earlier than December 1928 but no later than October 1930 and that's when his mafia narrative on who was who begins. The fact that he barely mentions Toto D'Aquila or how significant his murder was indicates he was made after bloody October and couldn't appreciate it. Whereas someone like Gentile experienced the same events but had been around since the 1900's, despite being in Masseria's side couldn't argue against his actions even referring his reign as a dictatorship. All indications point to Masseria abusing his power beyond the norms and his power lasted all but 2 and half years whereas D'Aquila lasted until Feb/Mar 1912 until his murder in Oct of 1928.

The Gambinos and Colombos are confusing because there is conflicting information and overlaps. The Colombos orginal HQ was on Oak St and that's smack dead in South Brooklyn in traditional Gambino territory with activity going back 20-30 years. This wasn't a group that "formed" in a completely separate area, so the split/formation in 1912 had to have been agreed upon by all of NYC. In 1913 D'Aquila and Mineo are recorded as being at odds, in the 1920's Mineo was one of several mafiosi in a period when Morello and allies were going to Sicily due to the D'Aquila feud. By 1928 Mineo had apparently taken over the D'Aquila group despite formerly heading another South Brooklyn group. I can speculate as to why this could have happened but it is mostly speculation on my end. The fact is members of this group (Colombos) were still receiving orders from Mineo as late as 1930 despite Salvatore DiBella allegedly being boss prior to Profaci. In the early 30's there was a Colombo member who offered to become an informant and shared information on Mineo but no one bit and he was instead executed. After 1931, it's established Profaci is Boss, he and many of his underlings live in the Bath Beach section of Brooklyn, coincidently two blocks east of one address Ignazio Lupo held in the 1900's when he was boss over one singular Palermitan Family.
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Great stuff. Any ieas on why only Masseria seemed to use a Consiglieri during this period? You'd think the more Sicilian families would have had one. Especially D'Aquila=Mineo being how they were the largest in the country.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:38 am Great stuff. Any ieas on why only Masseria seemed to use a Consiglieri during this period? You'd think the more Sicilian families would have had one. Especially D'Aquila=Mineo being how they were the largest in the country.


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They might have existed we just don't have the information. One poster here is adamant that he was told by made members that Traina's actual role was consigliere. Without evidence I can't really comment, just file it under "don't know."
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DeCavalcante said in 1964 on one of those recordings that Joe Bonanno had been a member for 33 years, so somewhere in 1930 would be most plausible.
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Chris Christie wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:48 am They might have existed we just don't have the information. One poster here is adamant that he was told by made members that Traina's actual role was consigliere. Without evidence I can't really comment, just file it under "don't know."

Yeah but we know that is not worth a bucket of warm spit. :mrgreen: Didn't Bill Bonanno list the first Consiglierie's in one of his book (no doubt getting the info from his father)? I haven't read but remember some posting the info. Also Valachi also claimed that the families didn't start using Consigliere's until 1931. Did Gentile or the informants from that era have anything to say about it? Thanks.


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Bonanno identified italiano as the first cited consig but not the first ever in the family's history. Valachi stated something along those lines but it's confusing. An entire thread was devoted to it. Even so Pollacia's tenure predates Valachis statement by nearly a decade.
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Daquilla lived on 17th ave between 85th st and 84th st. he then moved back to the bronx . killed shortly there after in lower nycwas called bath beach at that time ,now all is called bensonhurst.Chris is right about the crews locating in that area, mineo betrayed Toto D. Mineo sealed his own death sentence by killing toto..
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BillyBrizzi wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:52 am DeCavalcante said in 1964 on one of those recordings that Joe Bonanno had been a member for 33 years, so somewhere in 1930 would be most plausible.
Sounds exactly right. I want to say he was made probably within 1 year before Schiro fled, 1930 is a safe year, however it means that he became a boss less than 18 months after becoming a member. That's what happens when you're related to every amico nos in Williamsburg:

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bronx wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:45 am Daquilla lived on 17th ave between 85th st and 84th st. he then moved back to the bronx . killed shortly there after in lower nycwas called bath beach at that time ,now all is called bensonhurst.Chris is right about the crews locating in that area, mineo betrayed Toto D. Mineo sealed his own death sentence by killing toto..
How did Mineo betray D'Aquila? Are you referring to Alfonso Attardi's Salvatore Mumbrao? Regardless of whether or not he played a part in D'Aquila's murder, Mineo's own murder was committed by the Lucchese/Bonanno families in tandem. Reasons for this murder being to weaken Masseria. No one, not Valachi, Gentile or Bonanno- has ever cited the reason as retribution for D'Aquila. And to the contrary it seems Mangano, Biondo and Anastasia were all Masseria allies, the only one who seemingly held a grudge- according to Gentile- was Traina.
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And I accidentally steered this thread into a historical discussion. My apologies. Going back to what started it I'll re-respond.
B. wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:56 pm On #3, I believe Valachi said that Profaci visited the safe house/apartment he was staying at and gave them background info about the war. Bonanno went out of his way to distance himself from Valachi, so I imagine he was trying to do the same for Profaci given their close ties.
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Anyway, 1930... yeah, um, kinda embarrassing really but I don't know where half of these guys operated from. Might wanna reexamine my worth as an early history export to a pre-early history expert. The horse manure rackets is kinda more my thing. So I need help with the 1930's locations. Addresses or neighborhoods. And since many of these guys were still in capo/admin positions in 1931, it'll kill two birds with one stone.
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