He claims while Snr was first booked on the last case that while he was away charles carneglia was made.
He claims it was at his home and that he was supposed to be in attendance (maybe B.C. jnr was the one presiding?)
Also... the way he makes it seems..... in 1990 i would almost say Casso was flexing on Gambinos and they didn't really do anything.
First DeCicco. But then Boriello, and eventually Lino.
Thats some big guys to get hit and thats that i would have thought. Seems the lukes may have been stronger force back then.
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Yeah, Casso and chin were a deadly force
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Actually gotti Sr. presided over Carneglia's making ceremony. It was on November 15th. Gotti was indicted that December.
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So was it at alites girls house?
Where he was told hed be in attendance
.... dont knke why...
Where he was told hed be in attendance
.... dont knke why...
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So was it at alites girls house?
Where he was told hed be in attendance
.... dont knke why...
Where he was told hed be in attendance
.... dont knke why...
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Don't know. It was held at a house in Queens. Here is a great breakdown of that ceremony that JD posted a while back.
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November 15, 1990
Location: Residence in Queens
Attendees
- John Gotti (50y) (Boss)
- Salvatore Gravano (45y) (Underboss)
- Frank LoCascio (58y) (Acting Consigliere)
- Pasquale Conte (65y) (Captain)
- Joseph 'Joe Butch' Corrao (54y) (Captain)
- James 'Jimmy Brown' Failla (71y) (Captain)
- John Gotti Jr. (26y) (Captain)
- Peter Gotti (51y) (Captain)
- Louis Ricco (61y) (Captain)
- Louis Vallario (49y) (Captain)
- Riccardo Cefalu (63y) (Soldier)
Members Inducted
- Mario 'Little Mario' Antonicelli (60y)
- Charles Carneglia (44y) [Carneglia book claims Spring 1991]
- John 'Jackie' Cavallo (39y)
- Domenico Cefalu (43y)
- Vincent 'Vinny Butch' Corrao (23y)
- Frank Fappiano (28y)
- Richard Martino (31y)
- Louis 'Brother' Scida (54y)
- Anthony 'Tall Tony' Vinciullo (56y)
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November 15, 1990
Location: Residence in Queens
Attendees
- John Gotti (50y) (Boss)
- Salvatore Gravano (45y) (Underboss)
- Frank LoCascio (58y) (Acting Consigliere)
- Pasquale Conte (65y) (Captain)
- Joseph 'Joe Butch' Corrao (54y) (Captain)
- James 'Jimmy Brown' Failla (71y) (Captain)
- John Gotti Jr. (26y) (Captain)
- Peter Gotti (51y) (Captain)
- Louis Ricco (61y) (Captain)
- Louis Vallario (49y) (Captain)
- Riccardo Cefalu (63y) (Soldier)
Members Inducted
- Mario 'Little Mario' Antonicelli (60y)
- Charles Carneglia (44y) [Carneglia book claims Spring 1991]
- John 'Jackie' Cavallo (39y)
- Domenico Cefalu (43y)
- Vincent 'Vinny Butch' Corrao (23y)
- Frank Fappiano (28y)
- Richard Martino (31y)
- Louis 'Brother' Scida (54y)
- Anthony 'Tall Tony' Vinciullo (56y)
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Pogo whos more often sponsoring or proposing these fellas in the NY mob, the capos or soldiers?Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:54 pm Don't know. It was held at a house in Queens. Here is a great breakdown of that ceremony that JD posted a while back.
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November 15, 1990
Location: Residence in Queens
Attendees
- John Gotti (50y) (Boss)
- Salvatore Gravano (45y) (Underboss)
- Frank LoCascio (58y) (Acting Consigliere)
- Pasquale Conte (65y) (Captain)
- Joseph 'Joe Butch' Corrao (54y) (Captain)
- James 'Jimmy Brown' Failla (71y) (Captain)
- John Gotti Jr. (26y) (Captain)
- Peter Gotti (51y) (Captain)
- Louis Ricco (61y) (Captain)
- Louis Vallario (49y) (Captain)
- Riccardo Cefalu (63y) (Soldier)
Members Inducted
- Mario 'Little Mario' Antonicelli (60y)
- Charles Carneglia (44y) [Carneglia book claims Spring 1991]
- John 'Jackie' Cavallo (39y)
- Domenico Cefalu (43y)
- Vincent 'Vinny Butch' Corrao (23y)
- Frank Fappiano (28y)
- Richard Martino (31y)
- Louis 'Brother' Scida (54y)
- Anthony 'Tall Tony' Vinciullo (56y)
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Re: Reading Gottis Rules questions
I'm sure it is the Soldiers since they most often are the ones dealing with the Associates. In this case it looks like the Capos are acting as the sponsors at the actual ceremony. That seems to be common among the NY families.
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ThanksPogo The Clown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:53 am I'm sure it is the Soldiers since they most often are the ones dealing with the Associates. In this case it looks like the Capos are acting as the sponsors at the actual ceremony. That seems to be common among the NY families.
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Jeremy, lino was killed before bobby
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Im skipping this book because i dont believe a fucking thing Alite says,damn shame Anastasia who is a good writer wasted his time with this guy. I guess people will do anything for a buck but Alite and Natale's books are 2 that i'm not wasting my time or money on.