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Thanks about Mangano info. The M F report says this The Don and DeJohn thing happened in 1955. I thought I read about DeJohn and Benevento being killed in the 1940s
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Frank wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:56 pm Thanks about Mangano info. The M F report says this The Don and DeJohn thing happened in 1955. I thought I read about DeJohn and Benevento being killed in the 1940s
Its obviously a mistake
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Mobster benvento of Chicago
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Sorry was googleing but was still on forum lol
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Here are some of the generally known murders which occurred during the 1940's regarding the alleged conflict...

“Black Tom” Oneglia killed December 7, 1943, "Anastasia" style on a barber chair

On February 25, 1944, James DeAngelo was killed

On March 2, 1944, Sam Gervase was shot to death

On August 3, 1944, Lawrence Mangano was shot to death

On December 28, 1945, there was a murder attempt on Benevento's life and was hit twice in the stomach, once in the neck, in the right arm and left armpit but survived. On September 21, 1946, Benevento was again riddled with bullets and finally died

On May 9, 1947, Nick DeJohn was also killed and his death allegedly signalled the end of the old North Side mob and the rise of Prio
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Villain wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:23 am Here are some of the generally known murders which occurred during the 1940's regarding the alleged conflict...

“Black Tom” Oneglia killed December 7, 1943, "Anastasia" style on a barber chair

On February 25, 1944, James DeAngelo was killed

On March 2, 1944, Sam Gervase was shot to death

On August 3, 1944, Lawrence Mangano was shot to death

On December 28, 1945, there was a murder attempt on Benevento's life and was hit twice in the stomach, once in the neck, in the right arm and left armpit but survived. On September 21, 1946, Benevento was again riddled with bullets and finally died

On May 9, 1947, Nick DeJohn was also killed and his death allegedly signalled the end of the old North Side mob and the rise of Prio
Great stuff bud!
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AlexfromSouth wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:01 am
Villain wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:23 am Here are some of the generally known murders which occurred during the 1940's regarding the alleged conflict...

“Black Tom” Oneglia killed December 7, 1943, "Anastasia" style on a barber chair

On February 25, 1944, James DeAngelo was killed

On March 2, 1944, Sam Gervase was shot to death

On August 3, 1944, Lawrence Mangano was shot to death

On December 28, 1945, there was a murder attempt on Benevento's life and was hit twice in the stomach, once in the neck, in the right arm and left armpit but survived. On September 21, 1946, Benevento was again riddled with bullets and finally died

On May 9, 1947, Nick DeJohn was also killed and his death allegedly signalled the end of the old North Side mob and the rise of Prio
Great stuff bud!
Thanks man
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De George attended Accardo's daughter's wedding in 1961. Article states he was demoted from Capo in the 1940's for dereliction of duties. I assume that he was not part of the plot, but members of his crew were.
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Looks like the conflict with the North Side mob during the 1940s also disrupted the Outfits operations in Dallas...

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... ick_dejohn

Theres a mistake in the report which states that Raegan was DeJohns uncle which is not true but instead it should be Benevento i think
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Dwalin2014 wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:10 pm By the way, if his Italian name was Vincenzo, why did they call him James in English? Vincent would be more logical. The Italian name for James is Giacomo (for example, Big Jim Colosimo was originally Giacomo Colosimo I think).
The name "James/Jimmy" being used for Vincenzo was extremely common earlier on, more common in my experience than "Vincent", though that eventually took over. I think Christie mentioned on here before that this was because some Italian nicknames for "Vincenzo" sounded phonetically like "Jimmy", which led to them using the name James.

Giacomo and Gioacchino both tend to be "Jake" or "Jack" here, but these things aren't always consistent.

DeGeorge was from Ribera (if that wasn't mentioned earlier) so he was probably affiliated with 1920s Chicago leader Pasquale Lolordo. I know that Aiello's brother Sam had fled to Wisconsin after his brother's death, but he had been opposed to his brother so he was allowed to return to Chicago where he joined DeGeorge's crew. After DeGeorge was "banished" to Wisconsin, he apparently had some amount of social connection to the Milwaukee family as he was seen at the funeral of a Milwaukee member along with Winconsin-based Chicago member Frank LoGalbo (who had originally been made into the Milwaukee family but transferred) and John DiBella.
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B. wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:56 am
Dwalin2014 wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:10 pm By the way, if his Italian name was Vincenzo, why did they call him James in English? Vincent would be more logical. The Italian name for James is Giacomo (for example, Big Jim Colosimo was originally Giacomo Colosimo I think).
The name "James/Jimmy" being used for Vincenzo was extremely common earlier on, more common in my experience than "Vincent", though that eventually took over. I think Christie mentioned on here before that this was because some Italian nicknames for "Vincenzo" sounded phonetically like "Jimmy", which led to them using the name James.

Giacomo and Gioacchino both tend to be "Jake" or "Jack" here, but these things aren't always consistent.

DeGeorge was from Ribera (if that wasn't mentioned earlier) so he was probably affiliated with 1920s Chicago leader Pasquale Lolordo. I know that Aiello's brother Sam had fled to Wisconsin after his brother's death, but he had been opposed to his brother so he was allowed to return to Chicago where he joined DeGeorge's crew. After DeGeorge was "banished" to Wisconsin, he apparently had some amount of social connection to the Milwaukee family as he was seen at the funeral of a Milwaukee member along with Winconsin-based Chicago member Frank LoGalbo (who had originally been made into the Milwaukee family but transferred) and John DiBella.
Nice info B and yes I also believe that he was possibly connected to Lolordo
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Wasn't there a Sicilian Mafia family based on the north side and I think Melrose Park that merged into the Outfit, that I think DeGeorge was originally with. I can't remember who the original bosses names were.
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I don't know if De George was with them originally but the family or clan was Montana.
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Frank wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:48 pm I don't know if De George was with them originally but the family or clan was Montana.
I dont know if Montana Sr was connected to DeGeorge or Torrio, but im positive that his son Mauro Jr later was connected to Outfit
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Maybe some of the Chicago researchers might disagree with me but my personal opinion is that Capones guy in the Melrose Park area was Frank Rio. He grew up around Stone Park and Fraklyn Park and by the early 1930s or when Montana Sr was sent to jail, Rio was the syndicates main guy around the Western suburbs. Some say that Rocco DeGrazia was Capones man over there but I personally believe that he previously operated on the Northwest side which in fact was the so-called front line between factions of the North Mafia and the Caponites. DeGrazia was the perfect guy for that territory since he was one of the top enforcers who also possibly had some involment in the infamous massacre. When Rio unexpectedly died in 1935 i think, thats when DeGrazia became the top boss of that same area.
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