Cleveland circa '65

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As long as you're at it: How 'bout Jo Jo instead of Joseph or Joe Pecora and Zebo instead of Henry Zottola.
Hell, I was the only one that called Zebo Henry.
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Warren's Delsanter's immediate superior was Licavoli. Do we know or have any intel who these other city operatives reported to? Either had to be Scalish, DeMarco, Milano, Brancato or Licavoli? Or ask yourself: did any of these guys have anyone report to them directly? Like Frank Andrews to Scalish (if that was indeed direct.) etc.

Lima-
--Guagenti, Frank

Toledo-
-Perna, Angelo

Sandusky-
-Dema, Gus

Colombus-
-D'Angelo, Michele

Mansfield-
--Antonio Mollica

Akron-
-Leo Moceri

Canton-
-Battista, Loius - Bones

Ashtabula Cty?-
-Pizzuto, Santo

Newport, KY
---Frank Andrews
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Question: What guys were suspected of being with "Cleveland" that turned out to be members of other Families?

Names I have:
1) Whitey Besase - Detroit
2) James Tripodi - PT
3) Cosmo Quattrone - PT
** 4) Dominic Mallamo was later listed as a Cleveland member but I'm not seeing his labeled that yet in 1960.

Anybody else?
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Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
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FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
thats who first came to my mind. I heard his son was having some car trouble lol

two more cleveland assoicates

NIck "slush" ramey
charles"kelly" comella

two more youngstown associates
charles carrabia
orlando carrabia
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Stroccos wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:36 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
thats who first came to my mind. I heard his son was having some car trouble lol

two more cleveland assoicates

NIck "slush" ramey
charles"kelly" comella

two more youngstown associates
charles carrabia
orlando carrabia
Ya, Rocco has had more than just car trouble ;)

Agree with adding both Carrabia brothers.
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Stroccos wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:36 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
thats who first came to my mind. I heard his son was having some car trouble lol

two more cleveland assoicates

NIck "slush" ramey
charles"kelly" comella

two more youngstown associates
charles carrabia
orlando carrabia
Speaking of "Associates": Would it be reasonable to include RC's cousin Junior Sensirino (not sure if I spelled his name correctly)?
In the early 70s I was playing in RC's poker games Junior was RC's right hand man all the way around. Junior got wacked :(
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FriendofHenry wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:16 am
Stroccos wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:36 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
thats who first came to my mind. I heard his son was having some car trouble lol

two more cleveland assoicates

NIck "slush" ramey
charles"kelly" comella

two more youngstown associates
charles carrabia
orlando carrabia
Speaking of "Associates": Would it be reasonable to include RC's cousin Junior Sensirino (not sure if I spelled his name correctly)?
In the early 70s I was playing in RC's poker games Junior was RC's right hand man all the way around. Junior got wacked :(
yes it would , how about moose alsmay as well.
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Stroccos wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:48 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:16 am
Stroccos wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:36 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
thats who first came to my mind. I heard his son was having some car trouble lol

two more cleveland assoicates

NIck "slush" ramey
charles"kelly" comella

two more youngstown associates
charles carrabia
orlando carrabia
Speaking of "Associates": Would it be reasonable to include RC's cousin Junior Sensirino (not sure if I spelled his name correctly)?
In the early 70s I was playing in RC's poker games Junior was RC's right hand man all the way around. Junior got wacked :(
yes it would , how about moose alsmay as well.
Moose would be someone to consider. I wouldn't have held him on the same level as Junior.
However they're both Cleveland guys and I would trust your opinion more than mine.
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FriendofHenry wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:53 am
Stroccos wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:48 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:16 am
Stroccos wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:36 am
FriendofHenry wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am Does Pat Ferruccio who started out with Cleveland then was definitely with Pittsburgh count?
thats who first came to my mind. I heard his son was having some car trouble lol

two more cleveland assoicates

NIck "slush" ramey
charles"kelly" comella

two more youngstown associates
charles carrabia
orlando carrabia
Speaking of "Associates": Would it be reasonable to include RC's cousin Junior Sensirino (not sure if I spelled his name correctly)?
In the early 70s I was playing in RC's poker games Junior was RC's right hand man all the way around. Junior got wacked :(
yes it would , how about moose alsmay as well.
Moose would be someone to consider. I wouldn't have held him on the same level as Junior.
However they're both Cleveland guys and I would trust your opinion more than mine.
I wouldn't put on that level either , but he was taking scores with the carabbias .
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I'm kinda maxed out on space so hopefully there's nothing else to add re. CL City itself. If you guys want to throw in some more YT names there's room but it's getting tight.
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Chris Christie wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:57 am I'm kinda maxed out on space so hopefully there's nothing else to add re. CL City itself. If you guys want to throw in some more YT names there's room but it's getting tight.
That would be entirely up to Stroccos. I'm all in :)
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FriendofHenry wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:01 am
Chris Christie wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:57 am I'm kinda maxed out on space so hopefully there's nothing else to add re. CL City itself. If you guys want to throw in some more YT names there's room but it's getting tight.
That would be entirely up to Stroccos. I'm all in :)
I am good
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Then that's done.

Please go through the nicknames for everyone, it'll be easier for me to add them now rather than later. Strocco I'll be emailing you later.
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Chris Christie wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:57 am I'm kinda maxed out on space so hopefully there's nothing else to add re. CL City itself. If you guys want to throw in some more YT names there's room but it's getting tight.
Let me know what pics I still need to send , the canton guys and tony panzarella I need to locate
I don't have a pic of Ralph carpinelli or joe Batista
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