Cleveland circa '65

[Stroccos]

a few more assocates cleveland
John felice sr
John "skip" felice jr
tony hughes
jackie presser
bill presser
Joe "spags" spagnola no photo
Pat "the hat " lanese no photo

[Stroccos]

Awesome. Ok, well look over both charts in page 1. It'll be a pain in the ass to add names later.

i can start emailing those pictures this evening at some point
for mansfield ita antonio mollica

La Monge, Paul is a warren / niles guy move him to warren

You have mike fini on cleveland associtates its rini

i have more associaates to add as well but as far as made guys i think thats about it tht i can think of anyway

[FriendofFamily]

Are these the proper spellings?
tony delguyd
Joe pereffete

Delguyd is correct

Joseph Perfette

Yes Joseph Perfette

[FriendofFamily]

Hey Stroccos

I thought you had a picture of Carl Lafatch - I thought his obituary had it

[FriendofHenry]

I worked in Niles for a few years and would break for lunch where all the "Boys" went for lunch.
Sometimes I would be invited to sit with them. Joe was a regular except for Wednesdays during football season. He would pick up a pizza from the Sunrise Inn in Warren and bring it back for lunch.
Occasionally I would meet my Dad and Charlie for lunch and saw Joe come in for his pizza and put a large envelope in the pick up window that was a converted bank teller's window from an old bank. He never acknowledged Charlie thus no one ever saw Charlie take an envelope from him. I always said that Charlie was the sharpest pencil in the box

[FriendofFamily]

Interesting tidbit: Carl Lafatch lived exactly one block over from my Mom and Dad's house and on the block on the other side of Carl LaFatch my brother lived on the other side. My nieces and nephew would cut through there to see my Mom and Dad. I don't remember ever meeting him.

[Stroccos]

Hey Stroccos

I thought you had a picture of Carl Lafatch - I thought his obituary had it

I never looked for his obit so it very well may be there , Jcb did post of a picture of carl lafatch I saved it to a. Laptop that went down it won't start up . So unless jcb is willing to repost and let it be used for the chart I don't have it . I wouldn't use anyone else's pictures because it's possible they didn't want them shared . The only exception if it's from a newspaper or a mugshot . Also for this chart we will be using photos from a few books , mugshots , newspapers , old photos , facebooks, twitter , instagram etc

[Stroccos]

I worked in Niles for a few years and would break for lunch where all the "Boys" went for lunch.
Sometimes I would be invited to sit with them. Joe was a regular except for Wednesdays during football season. He would pick up a pizza from the Sunrise Inn in Warren and bring it back for lunch.
Occasionally I would meet my Dad and Charlie for lunch and saw Joe come in for his pizza and put a large envelope in the pick up window that was a converted bank teller's window from an old bank. He never acknowledged Charlie thus no one ever saw Charlie take an envelope from him. I always said that Charlie was the sharpest pencil in the box

Murgie really knew how to fly under the radar , it some of those old FBI files people associated him with Cleveland . It sounds far fetched wonder if that could possibly be true , as pat ferrucco was once with Cleveland then at some point switched teams ? Do you know if murgie was a Calabrian or Sicilian ?

[Stroccos]

Interesting tidbit: Carl Lafatch lived exactly one block over from my Mom and Dad's house and on the block on the other side of Carl LaFatch my brother lived on the other side. My nieces and nephew would cut through there to see my Mom and Dad. I don't remember ever meeting him.

I have seen his name mentioned a few times , once in brancato a book street boss , a car licensed to him was at a meeting with tony Milano ,

Did you ever meet Paul demaio ? He owed ameritemps

[FriendofFamily]

Interesting tidbit: Carl Lafatch lived exactly one block over from my Mom and Dad's house and on the block on the other side of Carl LaFatch my brother lived on the other side. My nieces and nephew would cut through there to see my Mom and Dad. I don't remember ever meeting him.

Did you ever meet Paul demaio ? He owed ameritrmps

No I don't remember meeting him, I may have, but I do know of someone (currently lives in Chicago and used to live in Akron) that hung around with him a lot and drove him where he needed to be. He told me of the various kicking up from Jimmy Lafatch and Construction Companies and Labor. Also using his company for various activities. I learned about the women who cook for him and did his hair, nails, and massages. Get his newspaper etc. He lived with his daughter in Tallmadge in later years. He got in trouble for Food Stamp/Welfare fraud.

[FriendofHenry]

I worked in Niles for a few years and would break for lunch where all the "Boys" went for lunch.
Sometimes I would be invited to sit with them. Joe was a regular except for Wednesdays during football season. He would pick up a pizza from the Sunrise Inn in Warren and bring it back for lunch.
Occasionally I would meet my Dad and Charlie for lunch and saw Joe come in for his pizza and put a large envelope in the pick up window that was a converted bank teller's window from an old bank. He never acknowledged Charlie thus no one ever saw Charlie take an envelope from him. I always said that Charlie was the sharpest pencil in the box

Murgie really knew how to fly under the radar , it some of those old FBI files people associated him with Cleveland . It sounds far fetched wonder if that could possibly be true , as pat ferrucco was once with Cleveland then at some point switched teams ? Do you know if murgie was a Calabrian or Sicilian ?

I believe Charlie was Sicilian. I also believe that when his Father came to the US he was a member of Black Hand in Italy.

[Stroccos]

Interesting tidbit: Carl Lafatch lived exactly one block over from my Mom and Dad's house and on the block on the other side of Carl LaFatch my brother lived on the other side. My nieces and nephew would cut through there to see my Mom and Dad. I don't remember ever meeting him.

Did you ever meet Paul demaio ? He owed ameritrmps

No I don't remember meeting him, I may have, but I do know of someone (currently lives in Chicago and used to live in Akron) that hung around with him a lot and drove him where he needed to be. He told me of the various kicking up from Jimmy Lafatch and Construction Companies and Labor. Also using his company for various activities. I learned about the women who cook for him and did his hair, nails, and massages. Get his newspaper etc. He lived with his daughter in Tallmadge in later years. He got in trouble for Food Stamp/Welfare fraud.

Welfare fraud guess he was always on the hustle . I was told by a few he was made and by others he wasn't made. I have seen one mention on madryferral of him being a member. he was involded in gambling and armed robberies in his younger years .

[Angelo Santino]

Awesome. Ok, well look over both charts in page 1. It'll be a pain in the ass to add names later.

i can start emailing those pictures this evening at some point
for mansfield ita antonio mollica

1) Mollica as a rep or soldier?
2) Is Antonio Lima being in mansfield correct?

[Stroccos]

Awesome. Ok, well look over both charts in page 1. It'll be a pain in the ass to add names later.

i can start emailing those pictures this evening at some point
for mansfield ita antonio mollica

1) Mollica as a rep or soldier?
2) Is Antonio Lima being in mansfield correct?

There was a mistake and I believe you put Antonio Lima and you meant to put mollica. There is no Antonio Lima

Antonio "godfather " Mollica is the Mansfield rep , I believe he was a made guy . According to some FBI files on maryferral he wasn't highly sought of . While he didn't hold much status outside of his county mob wise . For years He was a local behind the scenes political power broker in his county . He was dubbed he "godfather " by the locals . Not sure how active he was in his later years ,

[Stroccos]

I worked in Niles for a few years and would break for lunch where all the "Boys" went for lunch.
Sometimes I would be invited to sit with them. Joe was a regular except for Wednesdays during football season. He would pick up a pizza from the Sunrise Inn in Warren and bring it back for lunch.
Occasionally I would meet my Dad and Charlie for lunch and saw Joe come in for his pizza and put a large envelope in the pick up window that was a converted bank teller's window from an old bank. He never acknowledged Charlie thus no one ever saw Charlie take an envelope from him. I always said that Charlie was the sharpest pencil in the box

Murgie really knew how to fly under the radar , it some of those old FBI files people associated him with Cleveland . It sounds far fetched wonder if that could possibly be true , as pat ferrucco was once with Cleveland then at some point switched teams ? Do you know if murgie was a Calabrian or Sicilian ?

I believe Charlie was Sicilian. I also believe that when his Father came to the US he was a member of Black Hand in Italy.

Thanks foh