Cleveland circa '65

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-Others?
Cleveland:
Amato, Angelo made
Bibbo, Nicholas associate
Bucci, Angelo the tut Mr Ramika himself !!! Associate
Buffa, Tony associate
Papalardo, Sam made
Papalardo, Sylvester made
Poliafico, Salvatore not sure
Spitalieri, Anthony Not sure
Visconti, Frank made
Zingale, Joseph (associate?)
Zingale, Thomas (associate?)

Youngstown:
Paolacci, Mariano made black hand ? Possibly out of the rackets by 65

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We can also add newport Kentucky
Frank "screw" andrews aka frank andriola associate was the point man for Cleveland there

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Akron
Paul demaio
Nunzie destro associate
Dominik popa associate

Cleveland
Frank embrecia
Carmen Basile

Lima
Joseph Guagenti associate brother of frank

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Let's remember lonardo said there 50 made guys when he got made in the late 40's . He claimed that was its peak . Did scalish never make any more men from 1950-1976 . So let's assume that number is anywhere from 40-60 guys . This chart will be interesting for many reasons one big thing it's going to show is a once mighty organization dying out to attrition .

[Angelo Santino]

Scalish made Angelo Lonardo when he was acting boss, which would have been in 1949 or 1949. (http://mafiahistory.us/maf-invl.html):

uring the 1930s, the Commission put a "freeze' on the making of any new members. The Commission put the freeze on, since families, especially in New York, were not making the "right" kind of people. Some individuals were even buying their way into the LCN. I have heard that one businessman paid $50,000 to join the LCN. Because of the decree, I was not made into the Cleveland family until the 1940s. John Scalish became boss of the Cleveland family around 1949. He took over for Al Polizzi, who tired of Cleveland and retired in Florida. In 1949, the Cleveland family had between 50 and 60 members. Scalish did not "make" any new members, so the strength of the Cleveland family diminished as its members aged or died. Scalish just didn't want to make any new members. Scalish was the boss of the Cleveland family until his death in 1976. One of the main reasons for the Cleveland family's decline was the fact that neither Polizzi nor Scalish wanted to make new members.

When I was "made" -- or became a member of La Cosa Nostra -- I went through an initiation ceremony. I was invited into a room at the Statler Hotel in Cleveland and asked if I knew what I was doing there. You naturally say, "No." Present were John Scalish, the acting boss; Tony Milano, the underboss; John Demarco, a capo; and Frank Brancato. They explained to me that I had been proposed to be made a member of La Cosa Nostra and defined the rules and regulations of the organization. They told me that you cannot fool around with narcotics; you cannot own a house of prostitution or have prostitutes working for you; you cannot fool around with a woman that's married to a member of La Cosa Nostra; and that whatever illegal activity you engage in, you have to report to the boss and receive permission to engage in that activity: After I was told the rules, I was asked if I still wanted to join the organization. One can still leave at that time, but the person usually accepts. In my case, I joined and became a member of La Cosa Nostra.

Copied from: http://mafiahistory.us/maf-invl.html

Source info:
 Hunt, Thomas, "American Mafia Website - Angelo Lonardo Testimony," The American Mafia, mafiahistory.us, accessed Aug. 16, 2017.

Copyright © Thomas Hunt

[Angelo Santino]

Not counting Cavallaro since he passed, we have exactly 40 members listed, with 2 or 3 associates who may have been made.

Other possibilities could include:
Catalano-Pasquale
Cirelli-John
DeCore-James
DiGravio-Pierino
Iacobacci-Joseph
Lonardo-Frank
Nardi-John
Nardi-Nicholas
Palladino-James
Semenoro-Carmen

Maybe some of these guys could be ruled out as they could have been made later in the 70's.

[Angelo Santino]

Let's remember lonardo said there 50 made guys when he got made in the late 40's . He claimed that was its peak . Did scalish never make any more men from 1950-1976 . So let's assume that number is anywhere from 40-60 guys . This chart will be interesting for many reasons one big thing it's going to show is a once mighty organization dying out to attrition .

I'm open to a last hurrah chart, the 90's or something so it's comparable to the 1960's one. I want to do the same with the Pittsburgh LCN, two charts: one from the 40's or 60's and one from the 90's. Shows how they became anemic.

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Not counting Cavallaro since he passed, we have exactly 40 members listed, with 2 or 3 associates who may have been made.

Other possibilities could include:
Catalano-Pasquale
Cirelli-John
DeCore-James
DiGravio-Pierino
Iacobacci-Joseph
Lonardo-Frank
Nardi-John
Nardi-Nicholas
Palladino-James
Semenoro-Carmen

Maybe some of these guys could be ruled out as they could have been made later in the 70's.

it depends how deep you want to run with assoicates. there are probaly hundres of guys
Catalano-Pasquale assoicate union officer
Cirelli-John associate safe smacker
DeCore-James associate was a union officer
DiGravio-Pierino associate ran in mob circles well respected in the hill , many people looked up to Pete, had his own crew
Iacobacci-Joseph to young to be listed
Lonardo-Frank associate angelo lonardos brother
Nardi-John associate
Nardi-Nicholas associate
Palladino-James associate young car theif ,
Semenoro-Carmen associate didnt move to cleveland until 1969

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All made guys polizzi and the angersolas still got money from the outfit
cleveland
Nick Satullo
Mike minnaden
charles cassaro
tony panzarella
Flordia

big al polizzi
george angersola
john angersola
john tronolone

stubenveille
james tropodi
cosmo quattrone

canton/massilon
charles parise assoicate
joseph battista assoicate
joseph paone associate

[B.]

During the 1930s, the Commission put a "freeze' on the making of any new members. The Commission put the freeze on, since families, especially in New York, were not making the "right" kind of people. Some individuals were even buying their way into the LCN. I have heard that one businessman paid $50,000 to join the LCN. Because of the decree, I was not made into the Cleveland family until the 1940s. John Scalish became boss of the Cleveland family around 1949. He took over for Al Polizzi, who tired of Cleveland and retired in Florida. In 1949, the Cleveland family had between 50 and 60 members. Scalish did not "make" any new members, so the strength of the Cleveland family diminished as its members aged or died. Scalish just didn't want to make any new members. Scalish was the boss of the Cleveland family until his death in 1976. One of the main reasons for the Cleveland family's decline was the fact that neither Polizzi nor Scalish wanted to make new members.

Not to get too far away from your Ohio focus, but the talk of closing the books in the 1930s for not making the right kinds of members and buying their memberships was the Accusation made in the 1950s. Either he's confusing the reasons the books were closed during these two different periods (he wasn't a member in the 1930s anyway) or the books were closed in the 1930s for very similar reasons to the 1950s. With the way that history tends to repeat itself in the mob the latter wouldn't be that crazy.

I know Valachi and other source have mentioned the books closing in the 1930s, but has anyone definitively said they closed them in 1931 when the Commission was formed or is that just assumed?

[Angelo Santino]

Not counting Cavallaro since he passed, we have exactly 40 members listed, with 2 or 3 associates who may have been made.

Other possibilities could include:
Catalano-Pasquale
Cirelli-John
DeCore-James
DiGravio-Pierino
Iacobacci-Joseph
Lonardo-Frank
Nardi-John
Nardi-Nicholas
Palladino-James
Semenoro-Carmen

Maybe some of these guys could be ruled out as they could have been made later in the 70's.

it depends how deep you want to run with assoicates. there are probaly hundres of guys
Catalano-Pasquale assoicate union officer
Cirelli-John associate safe smacker
DeCore-James associate was a union officer
DiGravio-Pierino associate ran in mob circles well respected in the hill , many people looked up to Pete, had his own crew
Iacobacci-Joseph to young to be listed
Lonardo-Frank associate angelo lonardos brother
Nardi-John associate
Nardi-Nicholas associate
Palladino-James associate young car theif ,
Semenoro-Carmen associate didnt move to cleveland until 1969

You answered my question above.

You provided 8 more names which puts us at 48 members listed. Not too shabby.

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Not counting Cavallaro since he passed, we have exactly 40 members listed, with 2 or 3 associates who may have been made.

Other possibilities could include:
Catalano-Pasquale
Cirelli-John
DeCore-James
DiGravio-Pierino
Iacobacci-Joseph
Lonardo-Frank
Nardi-John
Nardi-Nicholas
Palladino-James
Semenoro-Carmen

Maybe some of these guys could be ruled out as they could have been made later in the 70's.

it depends how deep you want to run with assoicates. there are probaly hundres of guys
Catalano-Pasquale assoicate union officer
Cirelli-John associate safe smacker
DeCore-James associate was a union officer
DiGravio-Pierino associate ran in mob circles well respected in the hill , many people looked up to Pete, had his own crew
Iacobacci-Joseph to young to be listed
Lonardo-Frank associate angelo lonardos brother
Nardi-John associate
Nardi-Nicholas associate
Palladino-James associate young car theif ,
Semenoro-Carmen associate didnt move to cleveland until 1969

You answered my question above.

You provided 8 more names which puts us at 48 members listed. Not too shabby.

with the guys who died or we let off we are probably in the 60's as far as memebers
cleveland
Angelo Scirca was most likely made as well

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Anthony DeJanero's were listed as major players tied in with Vito genovese


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[Angelo Santino]

Angelo Scirca, soldier, Cleveland city?

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Angelo Scirca, soldier, Cleveland city?

Yeah Angelo Cleveland city soldier

Another one I forgot to add Cleveland city soldier
Thomas sanfilippo
Cleveland city associate Jospeh Bertolino