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JCB1977 wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:12 pm Gaspari Monti was one of the early bosses in Gary, IN, killed in 1923. He had a strong Black Hand/Bootlegging presence, known as "king of the Italian underworld".

Ironically, he was going to testify against 75 Lake County officials and was gunned down prior to his testimony. It was one of the most talked about cases in the Midwest back in 1923.
Sounds interesting, is the story detailed in any book? I found only several newspaper articles, I only understood that the main defendants were the judge William Dunn and the attorney Blaz Lucas, but how did the trial proceed after Monti was whacked (and who became the next boss)? Here it says the judge was convicted anyway though, but still it doesn't cover the whole story:

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/app ... 8/1562342/

Interesting though, do you think the corrupt law enforcement could clip a mob boss like that, without retaliations? I thought in the USA the mafia had always been more independent as an entity, even though they work with politicians and corrupt law enforcement, but I never read they had any formally made members in the government or senate etc, unlike Italy for example. I mean, I thought the mobsters were using the corrupt officials and politicians, not the other way around, but here the main local boss turns informant and gets whacked to save a judge, an attorney and the police who aren't even made. An interesting but unusual picture, imo.

Really, many of those small towns would deserve a separate book each about their underworld history. Even though on a local level, all those "mini-mafias" and law enforcement covering for them, would even make good plots for movies imo.
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Currently there are a lot of gaps on Gary, Indiana. When one of the newspaper databases adds an actual Gary newspaper to its archive, our knowledge will improve. I'm sure there are FBI files on guys from Gary, but we don't have them at this time. The FBI seems to be taking longer than ever to answer FOIA requests.
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Before the Outfit took over the territory, or should i say before the mid 1940's, the real big shots over there were the non-Italians
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Antiliar wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:46 pm Currently there are a lot of gaps on Gary, Indiana. When one of the newspaper databases adds an actual Gary newspaper to its archive, our knowledge will improve. I'm sure there are FBI files on guys from Gary, but we don't have them at this time. The FBI seems to be taking longer than ever to answer FOIA requests.
The only things I could find relating to Gary, Indiana and the Midwest are the following:

“New York note in San Diego airtel to bureau, 11/7/1967 informant mentioned the existence of smaller autonomous LCN groups in Dallas, Texas; Rockford, Illinois; Madison, Wisconsin; Gary, Indiana; Pueblo and Denver, Colorado. On 12/7/1967 he was specifically questioned regarding this statement. Advised that he was not personally acquainted with any LCN members in Gary, Indiana or Rockford, Illinois, but simply has known for years that “some of his people” have small organizations there. Stated that in smaller cities throughout the United States, there are scattered small groups of LCN members and at times some of them get together to form a small family. Their origins go back to settlements of original Sicilian immigrants. They usually use the boss of a big family to represent them in the event of any internal disputes.”

And then this:

“Investigation conducted by the Bureau in 1937, reflected that the [REDACTED] group and the group involved in the DE PHILLIPI kidnapping were all connected and headed by [REDACTED]. It would appear that following an alcohol tax indictment in June, 1935, in which [REDACTED] along with [REDACTED] were co-defendants, there was a split in the gang, part going with GEORGE SALADINO and the [REDACTED] brothers (most likely Frank and Joe Zito) and the balance remaining loyal to [REDACTED].”
Joe Zito’s FBI file from December 12, 1969 reads: “During the 1930’s, JOE and FRANK ZITO bossed a gang of individuals who operated out of Gary, Indiana and Springfield, Rockford and Peoria, Illinois. The group was made up primarily of Chicago and Rockford hoodlums and they engaged in extortion and kidnaping.”
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Good stuff Cavita. So it is possible that Springfield was never its own family but a Crew of the Rockford family. Likewise it is also possible that there was a small family in Gary.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:58 am Good stuff Cavita. So it is possible that Springfield was never its own family but a Crew of the Rockford family. Likewise it is also possible that there was a small family in Gary.


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It may have started out that way, but I do think that Springfield was its own family later on. It's very difficult to tell since these smaller Midwest families seemed to start up at the same time and there's very little info on their early years. There always seemed to be people coming and going that were influential for a time and then either went with another family or was deported. Francesco "Three Fingers" Coppola was one that was active in Illinois and Iowa in the 1930s and was deported to Italy in 1948.
Vincenzo Troia is another that intrigues the hell out of me since it seems almost impossible that he was active in the Midwest since he was so influential on the east coast and even Sicily before that. Why he was active with the smaller Midwest families is beyond me.
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In addition, during the mid 1910's, when Jim Colosimo arrived in Burnham, which is 23 km from Gary and less from Hammond, with the help of one John Patton, he allegedly started investing money in various brothels and gambling joints around northwest Indiana. The trick was in Burnham’s location which played major role in making an easy getaway for the visitors to avoid any possible raid by the police by simply slipping across the Indiana border or the other way around. According to one newspaper article, things got so bad that the Mayor of Hammond threatened to publish the names of brothel secret owners from his town and close the road to Burnham. They also controlled a burglary crew which operated in the Burnham, Calumet City, Hammond and Gary areas and the so-called leader of the crew was one racketeer and saloon owner Charles Costantio and his street guys such as the Dominick brothers and one Julius Rosenthal.

Another interesting info is that in 1945 Sam Battaglia met with one local and huge bookmaker Alex Chase in a saloon in Gary, and later the duo departed together but few hours later Chase’s body was found shot to death on a street in Hammond. Later, Battaglia was identified by witnesses from the saloon, as being the last person who saw Chase.
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Also here are few articles regarding the situation in Gary, Ind during Prohibition and the 1930's...

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1928 ... ootleg-war

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1929 ... o-massacre

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1930 ... in-by-gang

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1935 ... into-ditch

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1938 ... m-in-field

It seems to me that many of these guys were previously connected to members of the old Scilian faction in Chicago Heights which was the main reason for being hunted down by the non-Sicilian Chicago Heights faction, which later oversaw the area, with the help of Pinelli, Morgano, Zitto and others. In 1952 Pinelli allegedly became the boss of northern Indiana or Lake County, but still Morgano and Zitto were allegedly the main players and on top of that Pinelli also answered to LaPorte. Strange thing is that even though he was considered captain of the Chicago Heights crew, still there were other crew leaders who reported to him such as Pinelli or Armand D'Andrea the boss of Joliet and also main overseer in Phoenix, Arizona during the 1960s. In addition, Morgano previously worked with the North Side crew and was closely associated with Pinelli. Its possible that during the late 1940's Zitto requested for some sort of help or backup and so former members from the North Side and others from the Chicago Heights faction were later brought in. During the early 1960's both Zitto and Morgano were convicted but Morgano was also deported back to Sicily, thus leaving the top leadership (again) to Zitto. Also the main messanger between the LaPorte group and the northern Indiana faction was always Johnny Formosa.
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cavita wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:22 am Vincenzo Troia is another that intrigues the hell out of me since it seems almost impossible that he was active in the Midwest since he was so influential on the east coast and even Sicily before that. Why he was active with the smaller Midwest families is beyond me.
From the Sicilian docs Rick posted in the Troia thread we know he was the boss of San Giuseppe Iato in the 1920s before he fled to the US, so like Maranzano and many other guys he must have brought that credibility with him. Gentile identifies Troia as a boss at one point during the Castellammarese War so either he was still the San Giuseppe Iato boss in absentia and that was recognized in the US, or he was boss of a place like Springfield. Some of these guys, Gentile and Troia both being good examples, bounced around to different cities/families who were "in network" and seemed to be able to write their own ticket wherever they went... until one of them got gunned to death and the other flipped.

That bit Cavita posted is very interesting. It came from a San Diego source? What stands out is that Gary is mentioned with other cities that did have their own small families. The explanation for how families are set up is simple but accurate, too. Let's say the rule about needing 10 members to establish a family is true. You don't need a strong Italian community or thriving underworld to be a mafia family. A respected mafioso just needs a couple relatives, a few paesans with their relatives, and some kind of opportunity for everyone to work, then has to get official approval. The top guy obviously needs to be an established Sicilian mafioso in good standing with the right connections to other powerful mafia members who can vouch for him, maybe some kind of small enclave of other Italians/Sicilians.

These guys, especially the ones who weren't from wealthy families, didn't necessarily go to places where they thrived or had great economic opportunities. Giuseppe Morello was a migrant worker who bounced around doing labor when he came to the US but he was still a rising mafioso who would become the boss of bosses a relative short time later. While he was doing labor and living a peasant's life he was still deeply tapped in, which is what seems to have counted most. I wouldn't be surprised if some more "rural" areas of the US had their own small families for a time. We think of the Sicilians all going to big cities with stars in their eyes, but most Sicilian mafiosi coming to the US wouldn't have been afraid of rural environments, farm work, labor, etc. since that was their background in Sicily.

So the environment and quality of life not stopping him, this guy becomes boss of some small family in some random hole in the midwest or south, maybe running a few rackets or maybe going semi-legitimate, playing some small role in national/international mob politics. The city/town the family is based in never really took off for Italians and by this time most of them have congregated in large cities, especially on the east coast. Maybe some members of this small family have even left for other cities, which was common pre-1930s. Because this boss was an established mafioso already when he became boss, he is now probably getting up there in age and by the time he dies/retires there isn't much left to pass on and the family is dissolved or absorbed. Just a completely hypothetical scenario but I can see something like that playing out.

Alabama is the best example we have of what I'm talking about, of a family that faded away much like families today fade away, only way earlier. Until Bill Bonanno threw it out there I don't think anyone had mentioned it, had they? Maybe a footnote in some FBI file? Either way this info came out of nowhere and some other info has started to turn up that slowly backs it up. There could have easily been other "Birmingham" type families in the southern US, especially when New Orleans was the nucleus.

In mafia HQ New Jersey the DeCavalcante family was barely known by other mafia families until the 1960s. NYC informants knew very little and Angelo DeCarlo a top Genovese captain with strong ties to Union county was recorded saying he didn't know the names of more than a few members. Louis LaRasso explained to him that they intentionally didn't introduce most of their guys to other families. Side note, but a Lucchese informant (Taglialatella) said something similar about the Lucchese family not introducing their members to other families.

Going back to the DeCavalcantes -- if they could fly under the radar as much as they did right next to NYC as an active family, you have to wonder if some defunct families in other parts of the US could have existed but were never brought up, or were absorbed by another family or families like Newark or the other Chicago groups. There is reason to believe there were multiple families operating in the Philadelphia / South Jersey area, too, before being consolidated into one at some point, so that's a situation that could have played out in different places. You have to wonder if some of these satellite crews we see were actually small families originally, i.e. Baltimore.

Gentile at one point talks about one of the assembly type meetings and I swear he talks about some huge number of "capi" being there, way more than the typical ~25 families given for the US mafia at its peak. He may have been including a bunch of other random leaders who weren't bosses. All of those assembly meetings seem to have been huge.

If there were more families early on, maybe there was a reason. Maybe the first mafiosi to enter the US were resistant to being considered part of the same family as other US mafiosi who were from different families / regions of Sicily in the same way that they were later resistant to Calabrians/Neapolitans before ultimately letting them join, followed by other Italians, then half-Italians for a time. I'm just riffing off speculation but it's fun to think about.
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Yes, with Vincenzo Troia already being a “man of honor” in San Giuseppe Iato he was seen as such in the smaller cities in the Midwest and quite possibly the early Springfield boss, 1930-1933/1934. Salvatore Immordino was another such made man in San Giuseppe before he immigrated to Frankfort, New York. Immordino went back to San Giuseppe for a time and then traveled back to the U.S. settling in Madison, Wisconsin (at the same time Troia was there) before moving to Rockford, Illinois where he died in 1962. Milwaukee informant Augie Maniaci told the FBI in 1964 that Immordino was an old time member.

Gaspare Calo was another made member of the San Giuseppe clan that found his way to Springfield in 1923 and was involved in the rackets there with brother-in-law Filippo Zito. Zito was yet another made man in San Giuseppe who settled in Springfield and was the brother of Springfield boss Frank Zito. It’s unknown if Calo was an early made member of Springfield but it is quite likely since he lived there until 1936 except for two years in Leavenworth prison. So here we have two paesani, Calo and Troia, who were in Springfield at the same time- 1930-1934. For whatever reason Calo transferred to Rockford where another brother-in-law Joe Zito, had been living since 1931 after moving from Springfield.

I do find it interesting that members from different families can come together and form another family- early Madison, Wisconsin members seemed to be mostly comprised of people from Bagheria and San Giuseppe Iato. The Springfield members mostly hailed from San Giuseppe Iato and Montevago while Rockford’s early members mostly were from Aragona and San Giuseppe Iato.

Now, Des Moines, Iowa had a satellite family at one time and it’s possible there were Italian criminals that may or may not have had a small “family” in other locations that were either absorbed into other families or disbanded after a time. Birmingham, Alabama is likely and I have a feeling Oklahoma had something possibly going on in the early days but this is just hypothetical on my part. In my research I’ve found Italian criminals in Streator, Illinois and LaSalle, Illinois that may have operated independently for a short time but were most likely under Springfield or Rockford.

This thread is fascinating to say the least and I always welcome new info and thoughts on these topics. I’ve had great success in finding “lost” information not in the files of the people I request, but buried in the files of other individuals.
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