Gigante & New England

[JeremyTheJew]

During the time Scarfo and maybe Patriarca were getting permission, was it GIGANTE that would be acknowledged as boss?

Or would the message be that Salerno or just The Genovese would be making the orders?

[Wiseguy]

During the time Scarfo and maybe Patriarca were getting permission, was it GIGANTE that would be acknowledged as boss?

Or would the message be that Salerno or just The Genovese would be making the orders?

Yes, at the time of both, Gigante was the boss. Salerno was present at that meeting where Chin made his comment about "Not seeing anyone else" there and made Scarfo the boss.

[Rocco]

The Genovese wanted Scarfo to be boss after Bruno was killed, it was less about Atlantic City and more about having a Genovese aligned boss in Philadelphia.

True. Prior to Scarfo the Bruno was with the Gambino's and the Genovese and Gambino's are rivals and have always been jockeying for power wether it be a Union Local on the Port or influence over a smaller LCN group like Philly. Also I don't think the Westside even had control of union Locals that did allot of the work in South Jersey and Philly. Most of the Local's that were used in building the casino's were not based out of NY. Though I believe that Scarfo brought some Westside locals into the projects once they were aligned. But Scarfo made the most money down there with the construction of the Casino's. The main reason Gotti wanted control over the Decav's was because of there construction influence in NJ and NY. Gotti profited from that. So the Gambino's local or controlled company was now brought it on jobs rather then a Lucchese or Westside controlled local or company.

[JCB1977]

The New England family was real close with the Westside. I could see him doing that. I still wished I could find out more about Patriarca and what started his rise and how in the hell he was close with New York being that he was born in Worcester and cut his teeth on Federal Hill in Providence. Same goes for Nicky Bianco, I think he was born in NY but somehow had some sway in Federal Hill as well. It's the most confusing family I've seen in trying to get information that far back.

Baby Shacks came from NY, didn't he?

[TwoPiece]

The New England family was real close with the Westside. I could see him doing that. I still wished I could find out more about Patriarca and what started his rise and how in the hell he was close with New York being that he was born in Worcester and cut his teeth on Federal Hill in Providence. Same goes for Nicky Bianco, I think he was born in NY but somehow had some sway in Federal Hill as well. It's the most confusing family I've seen in trying to get information that far back.

Baby Shacks came from NY, didn't he?

No, he was a Providence guy. But he spent a lot of time in NY while on the run in the 1970's.

[dixiemafia]

I think two piece is right, I think he was a Federal Hill kid. NY definitely helped him hide though and he had ties there.