Gangland news 20th April 2017

[phatmatress777]

I'm very tired of gotti Christ id rather read about gene or junior or even that Vincent


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[Wiseguy]

I'm very tired of gotti Christ id rather read about gene or junior or even that Vincent


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Or how about an update on that case against Crea and his son that was supposed to be coming...

[SonnyBlackstein]

I'm very tired of gotti Christ id rather read about gene or junior or even that Vincent


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Or how about an update on that case against Crea and his son that was supposed to be coming...

One interesting point if Crea goes to trial is how the G will classify him.
Acting, UB, acting UB etc etc...

It'd be great if the Feds/G could fill out the admin. Who's in and who's what. Crea, Vic, Madonna, Giampa, Caridi etc

Luke's admin has been contentious for some time.

[phatmatress777]

I'm very tired of gotti Christ id rather read about gene or junior or even that Vincent


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Or how about an update on that case against Crea and his son that was supposed to be coming...

Anything would be better than gotti propaganda


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[dave]

Just came across this clearer version of the Gravano interview for anyone interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-TGJtd-VHk

[Dwalin2014]

I don't know whether anyone knows for sure, probably this has been asked a lot already, but: whom do the latest sources list as the Lucchese boss: Crea or Madonna? First, all that talk about "Amuso finally giving up his formal position for Crea to become official" and "Crea being a new boss with potential to re-build the family", then they say "Madonna is the boss and he ordered the Meldish murder". By the way, was he free or in jail already when he was supposed to have given the order? Because if he was in jail, imo it would be insane to think those 2 triggermen who aren't even made (one isn't even Italian) would have visited him in prison to take orders directly. Even today, the boss would never directly give orders to associates. There must have been middle-men by default, yet no article says about any. How do they think they will tie Madonna to those 2 ?

[Wiseguy]

I don't know whether anyone knows for sure, probably this has been asked a lot already, but: whom do the latest sources list as the Lucchese boss: Crea or Madonna? First, all that talk about "Amuso finally giving up his formal position for Crea to become official" and "Crea being a new boss with potential to re-build the family", then they say "Madonna is the boss and he ordered the Meldish murder". By the way, was he free or in jail already when he was supposed to have given the order? Because if he was in jail, imo it would be insane to think those 2 triggermen who aren't even made (one isn't even Italian) would have visited him in prison to take orders directly. Even today, the boss would never directly give orders to associates. There must have been middle-men by default, yet no article says about any. How do they think they will tie Madonna to those 2 ?

The most important source (the FBI) says Amuso is still the boss.

[moneyman]

From Gangland 3/9/17

Madonna began serving an indeterminate sentence of up to five years for bookmaking in a New Jersey state prison 18 months ago. Sources told Gang Land this week that despite his incarceration, he is the acting boss. It's doubtful that Crea, 69, whom law enforcement sources say is the official family underboss, will be charged with any complicity in the murder.

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[Cheech]

I don't know whether anyone knows for sure, probably this has been asked a lot already, but: whom do the latest sources list as the Lucchese boss: Crea or Madonna? First, all that talk about "Amuso finally giving up his formal position for Crea to become official" and "Crea being a new boss with potential to re-build the family", then they say "Madonna is the boss and he ordered the Meldish murder". By the way, was he free or in jail already when he was supposed to have given the order? Because if he was in jail, imo it would be insane to think those 2 triggermen who aren't even made (one isn't even Italian) would have visited him in prison to take orders directly. Even today, the boss would never directly give orders to associates. There must have been middle-men by default, yet no article says about any. How do they think they will tie Madonna to those 2 ?

Lodonio is made

[tmarotta]

If I recall correctly, I believe Londonio was in Joe Lubrano's crew, and the mess that resulted from this hit was blamed on Lubrano thus Lubrano was busted down from being a capo.

[Dwalin2014]

Ok, but even though Londonio is made, wouldn't it be out of character for Madonna to give orders directly to a soldier, whatever his real rank is (acting boss? Since Amuso is still official, according to the FBI)? Without any other defendants alleged to be middle-men between Madonna and the triggermen, how do they tie Madonna to the hit? Or did he really go "out of character" and give the order directly to those 2 and the prosecution can (o hopes to) prove it?

[Pogo The Clown]

It is not unheard of for the Boss to deal directly with a Soldier or an Associate. Even when a murder is involved. These guys are not rocket scientists.


Pogo

[TommyNoto]

I believe Meldish was hit for disrespect shown to Madonna or at least that is what I think I read ? If that's the case then it's possible MM got heated when ordering it and possibly broke protocol. Seems we might find out soon .

Madonna being acting boss over Crea ? That's interesting , not sure I heard that before , who knows what is true and who is in what role . Seems Luchesse administration have their shit together these days . Vic will always be official , it's stupid strategy for anyone to change that but he doesn't have appear to have final say on important mob matters , hence Scarfo demotion as that was a major family move IMO

[Teflon john]

My 12 year old son knows all this rehashed bullshit. Hell if thats all he has to write about then he should retire or pay off some current wiseguys for some new stories. Hey Jerry,like alot of the time ive spent reading your writing,i wish i had the last 5 minutes of my life back.