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[DoubleZ]

For a more complete and up to date recent bust/arrest history of Detroit, read the Detroit LCN Admin post:
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[Stroccos]

For a more complete and up to date recent bust/arrest history of Detroit, read the Detroit LCN Admin post:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2301

some street boss lets his own grand child get killed and does nothing

[DoubleZ]

For a more complete and up to date recent bust/arrest history of Detroit, read the Detroit LCN Admin post:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2301

some street boss lets his own grand child get killed and does nothing

That we know of.

[Stroccos]

For a more complete and up to date recent bust/arrest history of Detroit, read the Detroit LCN Admin post:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2301

some street boss lets his own grand child get killed and does nothing

That we know of.

well is the guy missing ? was he killed? the answer is no!

[Eddie mush]

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/fea ... se-w451888

[HairyKnuckles]

I have merged these two threads. It´s better to keep theses to topics in same thread I believe.

[Pete]

I have no idea really if Detroit is a viable family. I will say when looking at lack of indictments though that there are posters on this forum who claimed the grand avenue crew of the outfit was defunct due to lack of indictments and as of the last few years they have been by far the most indicted crew, and certainly one of the most active crews in the outfit. So did these guys all the sudden pop up after not doing anything for 20 years or were they active the whole time and just finally started getting busted? That answer is obvious I think.

[Wiseguy]

I have no idea really if Detroit is a viable family. I will say when looking at lack of indictments though that there are posters on this forum who claimed the grand avenue crew of the outfit was defunct due to lack of indictments and as of the last few years they have been by far the most indicted crew, and certainly one of the most active crews in the outfit. So did these guys all the sudden pop up after not doing anything for 20 years or were they active the whole time and just finally started getting busted? That answer is obvious I think.

I hope you're not talking about me as I never said anything of the kind about the Grand Avenue crew. If a sudden burst of cases were to happen in Detroit, you might have a point. But don't hold your breath.

[Pete]

I have no idea really if Detroit is a viable family. I will say when looking at lack of indictments though that there are posters on this forum who claimed the grand avenue crew of the outfit was defunct due to lack of indictments and as of the last few years they have been by far the most indicted crew, and certainly one of the most active crews in the outfit. So did these guys all the sudden pop up after not doing anything for 20 years or were they active the whole time and just finally started getting busted? That answer is obvious I think.

I hope you're not talking about me as I never said anything of the kind about the Grand Avenue crew. If a sudden burst of cases were to happen in Detroit, you might have a point. But don't hold your breath.

Disregarding who said it there was no indictments for actually more like 30 years on grand. My point is lack of indictments isn't always lack of activity. Who knows about Detroit. Scott seems to think they are fairly active. I don't know enough to comment one way or the other myself

[Pogo The Clown]

Joey Lombardo from the Grand Avenue Crew was indicted in 2005. Regardless you have to look at indictments for the family as a whole and not specific crews.


Pogo

[Pete]

Joey Lombardo from the Grand Avenue Crew was indicted in 2005. Regardless you have to look at indictments for the family as a whole and not specific crews.


Pogo

He was indicted based on things 30 years old but ok I'll give you that one. Not much besides that though

[Pogo The Clown]

But the crew was specifically mentioned in the indictment so it was still recognized as one of the Outfit Crews.


Pogo

[Snakes]

To be fair to Pete, it was thought for a couple years that the Grand Ave crew had been absorbed by Elmwood Park but that turned out to not be the case. There have been 4 crews in the Outfit for around 20 years now.

[Wiseguy]

Joey Lombardo from the Grand Avenue Crew was indicted in 2005. Regardless you have to look at indictments for the family as a whole and not specific crews.


Pogo

He was indicted based on things 30 years old but ok I'll give you that one. Not much besides that though

When you say "30 years," I assume you're talking from the 1980's until the indictments in the past few years. Jimmy Cozzo and two others were banned from thw Teamsters Union in 1990. Cozzo was later investigated in the late 1990s for his part in that casino in Curacao. Around that time Chris Spina was investigated for his involvement in the transportation department, including billing the city for driving Joey Lombardo around. Spina also had an interest in one of the trucking companies caught up in the Hired Truck Scandal in 2004. In 2002, Cozzo's son Philip and several others were busted for that bingo skimming operation. Rocco Lombardo had been working at the Crazy Horse Too strip club in Vegas that was raided in 2003. Then of course, as already mentioned, Joey Lombardo was charged in the Family Secrets case in 2005. A year prior, in 2004, three people in the crew had been indicted on charges of running a burglary ring that stole jewelry, furs, money, etc. from upscale homes. Then you had the more recent busts in 2012 and 2014.

So it's not like there's been an absence of activity over three decades. As I've said over and over, indictments and things of that nature - especially over the long term - are generally the best sign of activity. Or lack thereof. And the Grand Ave crew isn't exactly the best example to disprove this.