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FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
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FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Frankie Lentine was a cousin of my father's. Frankie certainly worked as a manager at the club. Bernie The Jew and Ernie B were the two guys who actually ran the club for Jimmy Prato and then Joey/Lenny.
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@The Greek

Do you remember Mike "Cyrak" Serrecchio? He had Cyrak's tavern for many years at the corner of Garland Ave and Oak St on the East Side until his gambling conviction prohibited him from having a liquor license, then he opened Mr. A's Eatery in the McGuffey Plaza. Mike was the biggest numbers operator in Youngstown from the 1970's through the 1990's. His main partner was Jack "Stoagie" DiSarro out of East Liverpool.
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Antiliar wrote:We both agree that Frank Milano was on the Commission. I'm not discrediting Lonardo, but it's normal after a long time for memories to get a little confused, or he didn't explain himself as well as he could have. Aside from the confusion I believe his account is accurate.

I found another possible early leader. Ignazio Lascola of Allegheny, PA, was corresponding with Giuseppe Morello in 1902/03.
Ironically, since discovering a treasure chest of information in the Reggio Calabria Archives on my own family, one of my great great Uncle's married a woman with the last name Lascala (It could have been Lascola as the handwriting on the marriage certificate could have gone either way). That side of the family came from Casignana RC.
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JCB1977 wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Frankie Lentine was a cousin of my father's. Frankie certainly worked as a manager at the club. Bernie The Jew and Ernie B were the two guys who actually ran the club for Jimmy Prato and then Joey/Lenny.
I believe Bernie spent most of his time at The All American Club as dis Ernie other than when he had a hard-on ;)
Frankie was at The Pines on more or less a full time basis. I mostly knew of Ernie and Bernie's involvement with Lenny.
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FriendofHenry wrote:
JCB1977 wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Frankie Lentine was a cousin of my father's. Frankie certainly worked as a manager at the club. Bernie The Jew and Ernie B were the two guys who actually ran the club for Jimmy Prato and then Joey/Lenny.
I believe Bernie spent most of his time at The All American Club as dis Ernie other than when he had a hard-on ;)
Frankie was at The Pines on more or less a full time basis. I mostly knew of Ernie and Bernie's involvement with Lenny.
You are correct, Frankie mostly ran The Pines but he filled in as a manager of barbut games during the week when Ernie was working on his construction business. He was a trusted ally of Ernie's.
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Once again, we agree :)
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FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
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JCB1977 wrote:@The Greek

Do you remember Mike "Cyrak" Serrecchio? He had Cyrak's tavern for many years at the corner of Garland Ave and Oak St on the East Side until his gambling conviction prohibited him from having a liquor license, then he opened Mr. A's Eatery in the McGuffey Plaza. Mike was the biggest numbers operator in Youngstown from the 1970's through the 1990's. His main partner was Jack "Stoagie" DiSarro out of East Liverpool.
I don't unfortunately. I was pretty young and never had any idea of what was going on. I just new Frankie and my Dad were friends. I've told the story on here a few times but Frankie helped my Dad out with a union problem in Sharon at The Phoenix Restaurant
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The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
Forgot to answer your question about the bridge painters! Wow that brought back some memories. My dad was a school administrator by day and had a very popular Greek band at the time that played a few nights a week. Every Wed in Niles at Anestos, and Fridays and Saturdays at various clubs from Oakland to Cleveland. I was a kid getting a real education hanging with these Greeks. When the painters were working during the spring and summer we would make a fortune at clubs, the Pines one of them, from the money they would throw. I was 14 walking around with hundreds of dollars in 1$ bills. I thought I was rich... I guess I was because it was an awesome world for a teenager
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The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
Yup. I used to deliver beer there for my summer job while in college. I get a nice weasel greasing in the back room. Many moons ago. Spent my Friday's at Patsy's Place, my Mom's cousin owned the joint for years.
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The Greek wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
Forgot to answer your question about the bridge painters! Wow that brought back some memories. My dad was a school administrator by day and had a very popular Greek band at the time that played a few nights a week. Every Wed in Niles at Anestos, and Fridays and Saturdays at various clubs from Oakland to Cleveland. I was a kid getting a real education hanging with these Greeks. When the painters were working during the spring and summer we would make a fortune at clubs, the Pines one of them, from the money they would throw. I was 14 walking around with hundreds of dollars in 1$ bills. I thought I was rich... I guess I was because it was an awesome world for a teenager
My uncle owned a very successful, men's tailor made clothing store, I got my education there. I started working at 10 years old unloading inventory and various odd jobs in the stock room. I remember the Pittsburgh faction and Cleveland faction, many members coming in to get fitted for suits and then having closed door meetings in his lavish, 1500 sq ft office with a full bar and a wine room and a smoke lounge for good cigars. I wasn't privy to any information, but over the years, I began to understand things a bit more. Those were the days. Every time Ed DeBartolo came into the store (which was 3-4 days per week, he'd give me a $20 spot just for assisting the tailor. I had $15k in the bank by the time I was 18 and off to college. Brings back great memories.
"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."

-Pauly Walnuts, RIP
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The Greek wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
Forgot to answer your question about the bridge painters! Wow that brought back some memories. My dad was a school administrator by day and had a very popular Greek band at the time that played a few nights a week. Every Wed in Niles at Anestos, and Fridays and Saturdays at various clubs from Oakland to Cleveland. I was a kid getting a real education hanging with these Greeks. When the painters were working during the spring and summer we would make a fortune at clubs, the Pines one of them, from the money they would throw. I was 14 walking around with hundreds of dollars in 1$ bills. I thought I was rich... I guess I was because it was an awesome world for a teenager
These was a popular spot on 224 in Boardman that attracted a lot of PA 18 year olds. Maybe you visited that spot too?
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JCB1977 wrote:
The Greek wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
Forgot to answer your question about the bridge painters! Wow that brought back some memories. My dad was a school administrator by day and had a very popular Greek band at the time that played a few nights a week. Every Wed in Niles at Anestos, and Fridays and Saturdays at various clubs from Oakland to Cleveland. I was a kid getting a real education hanging with these Greeks. When the painters were working during the spring and summer we would make a fortune at clubs, the Pines one of them, from the money they would throw. I was 14 walking around with hundreds of dollars in 1$ bills. I thought I was rich... I guess I was because it was an awesome world for a teenager
My uncle owned a very successful, men's tailor made clothing store, I got my education there. I started working at 10 years old unloading inventory and various odd jobs in the stock room. I remember the Pittsburgh faction and Cleveland faction, many members coming in to get fitted for suits and then having closed door meetings in his lavish, 1500 sq ft office with a full bar and a wine room and a smoke lounge for good cigars. I wasn't privy to any information, but over the years, I began to understand things a bit more. Those were the days. Every time Ed DeBartolo came into the store (which was 3-4 days per week, he'd give me a $20 spot just for assisting the tailor. I had $15k in the bank by the time I was 18 and off to college. Brings back great memories.
Great story! Imagine knowing then what you do now.
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FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:
The Greek wrote:
FriendofHenry wrote:Keep in mind that at the height of these families powers the bulk of Steel was being made in the world was made in Cleveland and Pittsburgh, especially in Youngstown. Jobs meant money and money means gambling.

The All American Club, just outside of downtown Youngstown, was considered the most productive casino outside of Las Vegas. Additionally the clubs that Pittsburgh controlled in Chester West Virginia were huge producers.

There has always been something special about being the big fish in a small pond :)

Was the All American Club in Campbell? I remember my Dad and a bunch of other Greeks meeting Frankie Lentine at a club in Campbell. This must have been in 1980 or 81. I was just a kid but tagging along w my Dad.
Small world :) The All American Club was on 12th.Street in Campbell. Frankie was a hell of a boxer and long time friend of Bernie. In fact they did a couple of "Jobs" together before there was an All American Club. Bernie invented the roof-top can opener ;)

Frankie and his wife, Dolly, had a little joint on 422 in Coitsville just down the road from The Palace in the Pines. This was the first "titty-bar" in the area, never my thing, however I believe that Frankie was in charge there. Was your Dad a bridge painter?
Henry,
Was the Pines on State Line next to RJ's Holiday House? Across from the beer distributor we used to drive to then head back to PA. Drinking age was 18 then in Ohio :)
Forgot to answer your question about the bridge painters! Wow that brought back some memories. My dad was a school administrator by day and had a very popular Greek band at the time that played a few nights a week. Every Wed in Niles at Anestos, and Fridays and Saturdays at various clubs from Oakland to Cleveland. I was a kid getting a real education hanging with these Greeks. When the painters were working during the spring and summer we would make a fortune at clubs, the Pines one of them, from the money they would throw. I was 14 walking around with hundreds of dollars in 1$ bills. I thought I was rich... I guess I was because it was an awesome world for a teenager
These was a popular spot on 224 in Boardman that attracted a lot of PA 18 year olds. Maybe you visited that spot too?
Boathouse??? Got drunk there many a night!!! Across the road from Chi Chi's and Red Lobster! Used to stop there on my home from working at Southern Park Mall. Good times...
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